Seems delusional. Don't expect reality or facts will change his/her mind.
This thread is way past its expiration date.
Weren't you the one who tried to make this claim before just for a developer to come out and say the GPU in the xbox was ~3 times faster?
Seriously?
Seriously?
Weren't you the one who tried to make this claim before just for a developer to come out and say the GPU in the xbox was ~3 times faster?
It was not almost as powerful as the xbox, but you'll continue to believe otherwise.
Also your other posts here have been hilarious. You're going to be in a rude awaking over the next year IMO.
I mean, I totally get that Xbox gpu was stronger than flipper (or whatever the GC gpu was called), but 3X more powerful? I didn't know the jump was that big.
We obviously don't have the library yet and I've read the power threads, but for features and performance, I do think the WiiU is on par with the 360 and PS3.Can you explain your reasoning behind "best console available right now"? It's okay if you think that, but why?
I mean, I totally get that Xbox gpu was stronger than flipper (or whatever the GC gpu was called), but 3X more powerful? I didn't know the jump was that big.
When did I say that? Lol, all I said the Xbox was a little bit more powerful then the GameCube.
I never ever said the Xbox GPU was 3x more powerful.
Well, the best looking games on both systems were pretty comparable graphics wise, so i'm not sure what devs were doing with that extra power.
Yeah, I found the quote. This is why I laugh when people say they were close.
You're right, you didn't say it, but you're still wrong here.
Also, read my post again, I said a developer said it was 3x faster, not you.
I'm wrong for saying something I didn't say? Ok then.
I think his point is that you claimed the XBOX was only "a little" more powerful than the GC. In response to this, a developer said, no, it's not "a little" more powerful than the GC, but rather the XBOX has a GPU that is 3x more powerful. Thus, it's incorrect to say that the GC was basically equivalent in power to an XBOX.
No one said that you said it was 3x.
But I don't understand I said the GameCube is almost as powerful as the Xbox but I never said it was 3x, I didn't say anything about it, all I said was "The GameCube was more powerful the the PS2 and almost as powerful as the Xbox"
They weren't pretty comparable though, that's the thing. Games looked great on the GC, no doubt, but weren't as technically advanced as a high end xbox game.
But I don't understand I said the GameCube is almost as powerful as the Xbox but I never said it was 3x, I didn't say anything about it, all I said was "The GameCube was more powerful the the PS2 and almost as powerful as the Xbox"
The point is that you're wrong to say the GC was almost as powerful as the Xbox. If what the previous poster wrote is true, the Xbox had a GPU that was 3x more powerful than the GPU in the GC. Nobody is saying you think the GC was 3x more powerful than the Xbox. The poster is saying you're wrong to assert that the GC is almost as powerful as the Xbox because it wasn't almost as powerful.
I mean, I don't really care - was just trying to clarify the point people were trying to make. That shit is 10+ years old lol.
He didn't say that though, he's not talking about how they look, rather how technically advanced they were. While the best looking GC games were comparable to the best looking Xbox games, it was obvious that the Xbox games which pushed the system were better looking and pushing more advanced effects than those found on the GC, like Splinter Cell or Riddick.So the likes of Rogue Squadron, F-Zero, Metroid Prime Echoes and Star Fox Adventures aren't graphically comparable to the best looking Xbox games? Come on, they easily are. And i think 3 of those are at 60fps too.
Despite what that developer says, in the real world the GameCube was competitive with Xbox. Metal Arms - a game that was developed for the Xbox and then ported to the GameCube. Actually ran better on the GameCube. Apart from maybe Splinter Cell and Wreckless most multi platform games on the GameCube held up. Others like Sonic Heroes ran better on GameCube.Weren't you the one who tried to make this claim before just for a developer to come out and say the GPU in the xbox was ~3 times faster?
It was not almost as powerful as the xbox, but you'll continue to believe otherwise.
Also your other posts here have been hilarious. You're going to be in a rude awaking over the next year IMO.
The original post by KageMaru really confused me.
So the likes of Rogue Squadron, F-Zero, Metroid Prime Echoes and Star Fox Adventures aren't graphically comparable to the best looking Xbox games? Come on, they easily are. And i think 3 of those are at 60fps too.
Yeah I don't understand why we are talking about this, people shouldn't really care If I think the GameCube was almost as powerful then the Xbox, it's been 10 years since then lol.
Next time I'll just say "The GameCube was closer to the Xbox then the PS2 was"
Despite what that developer says, in the real world the GameCube was competitive with Xbox. Metal Arms - a game that was developed for the Xbox and then ported to the GameCube. Actually ran better on the GameCube. Apart from maybe Splinter Cell and Wreckless most multi platform games on the GameCube held up. Others like Sonic Heroes ran better on GameCube.
GameCube exclusives like Metroid Prime, RE4 and Rogue Leader out classed everything on Xbox.
What about my original post confused you? I thought it was written well enough to be easily understood.
We're talking about it because you made your original incorrect comment.
I want to ask how? However this is going way off topic over some people getting overly defensive over a 10 year old subject. So if you care to support this in PM, by all means. How do they outclass everything else in scope, complexity, effects, etc?
LOL, some people need to play some of the better Xbox games, Xbox even had HD games (720p).
Two 60fps xbox games (dolby digital ingame, 480p):
lol dude that Ninja Gaiden pic is such a bullshot it's not even funny.
lol dude that Ninja Gaiden pic is such a bullshot it's not even funny.
Changed it. But the game is really awesome, one of the best from last gen. It looks better than any GC game (IMO). I really miss itagaki
This was confusing "Weren't you the one who tried to make this claim before just for a developer to come out and say the GPU in the xbox was ~3 times faster? " It sounds like your saying I said this before.
About the "GameCube almost as powerful then the Xbox"? Yeah, I still think the GameCube was almost as powerful then the Xbox since the Xbox didn't blow the GameCube away in anyway, but that's my opinion.
And no offensive or anything but most of us don't really care about me saying "The GameCube was almost as powerful as the Xbox"
I didn't claim you said anything, I asked a question. I also later clarified that you were right and you never made the comment.
You can go ahead and think what you want, that doesn't mean you're right.
No offense taken. I mostly just posted that dev comment to see the reaction and I wasn't disappointed. =p
I'm sorry for thinking the GameCube was almost as powerful as the Xbox, I just said that by the games I saw between the GameCube and Xbox.
So basically you're a dick? Gotcha
I didn't claim you said anything, I asked a question. I also later clarified that you were right and you never made the comment.
You can go ahead and think what you want, that doesn't mean you're right.
No offense taken. I mostly just posted that dev comment to see the reaction and I wasn't disappointed. =p
It's not worth it Meelow. But just to dip my feet in the fire, if the Xbox GPU was such a leap over the GC where are all of these 3x graphically superior games. Yes, the box was the most powerful console of that gen, but it wasn't by a factor of 3, whatever that means.
Hmmm...
Who should I trust?
The Dev that has been the GFX programmer for a lot of console games or a bunch of self important console warriors..............
It doesn't even need to be a bullshot... The graphics were still ridiculous.
A piece of shit game...
But above Gamecube graphically.
So basically you're a dick? Gotcha
Not above Rogue Leader. That's for sure.
60fps and those shaders and lighting effects?
Not sure if serious.
Call me what you want, but I think it's silly to get worked up over a 10 year old subject.
Some people really shouldn't take some things so seriously is my point.
I try to provide intelligent posts, and they are ignored, I try to have fun, and I'm a dick. Oh gaf...
Rogue Leaderr was 60 fps (not constant) with plenty of shaders with much more geometry going on.
So yeah, perfectly serious.
Funny that you mention that
When Shin'en gets quoted on the "ram issue" where they basically claim the RAM latency is the biggest issue on RAM, people just discredit Shin'en... A developer with a flawless track record of delivering technically incredible stuff. A company that started in the demo scene with people who can code directly to the metal.
But this Last Light dev guy is getting a free pass why?
Call me what you want, but I think it's silly to get worked up over a 10 year old subject.
Some people really shouldn't take some things so seriously is my point.
I try to provide intelligent posts, and they are ignored, I try to have fun, and I'm a dick. Oh gaf...
Rogue Leader had more advanced shaders than the models of Tao Feng?
My copy of Rogue Leader is showing me something different.
You were fishing for hilarious comments because you care about wanting to point out how someone is wrong, you admitted that you posted it to see the replies. That is not intelligent posts, that is being a dick.
Human models? no, but it had like dozens and dozens of tie fighters on screen with plenty of effects going on, much more that 2 fighters and a simple background.
Both Factor 5 games on game cube competes easily with most Xbox games. They were that good.
I mean in general, not in this specific instance.