KittenMaster
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The TeamCG dude.
I mean, not actually the dude but the video game version based on him.
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MGSV: Ground Zeroes - Spoilers Thread - #TeamBowie
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The TeamCG dude.
I mean, not actually the dude but the video game version based on him.
Graphics Horse
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Are we back to saying Snake is shooting those kids again? Is it the same people saying he was killing Chico?
Snake, remember this is a sneaking mission.
*Fires machine gun at children locked in a cage*
Snake, remember this is a sneaking mission.
*Fires machine gun at children locked in a cage*
Graphics Horse
Member
I'm not ruling out child soldiers being in this game in the place of regular guards, that's something the trailers might be hinting at. But thinking Snake is shooting at the unarmed kids just because we haven't seen anyone else in that area is a bit presumptuous.
Yeah, Big Boss loves kids. He even lets them play around in his base.
Metal Gear MSX games were weird.
SJRB
Gold Member
Well in that case..
Maybe Big Boss just needed a quick buck to form that private army of his once more, needed those blood diamonds but those little brats wouldn't hand them over.
"Trade for a sip of water", they said. "Trade for a bullet in the head", he replied.
giancarlo123x
Banned
He won't kill kids. The trailer is to throw us off. Like someone said he helped kids and stuff in metal gear 2.
Or maybe he's just getting the locks off the cage very aggressively. Tapping x to unlock faster still isn't enough.
KaiserBecks
Member
Wouldn't surprise me if Eli was some kind of druglord *coughRobocop2*
The resemblance is really uncanny.
SJRB
Gold Member
Seriously though that was the impression I got when I first saw the trailer. Big Boss shoots a lock or a power generator or something to get the cages open.
I doubt its a lock he's shooting far too long for that.
Solid Snake is absoloutely a natural blonde, always has been. He dyed and cut his hair before deployment. It's a sneaking mission, Snake knows how to handle his shit.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Snake only asks for scissors in the scene, and he's shown with dark hair in every other Metal Gear game. It's just weird lighting in that briefing video so that you can make out his hair against the dark background.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Solid having naturally dark hair would make more sense since he's a clone of Jack, and he's only been shown with dark hair. Liquid says he got the recessive genes, so maybe that would explain him being blond (I know nothing about genetics).
Yeah, also in Twin Snakes (ugh) in the briefing files Snake's hair is brown.
The Cartographer
Member
Liquid was wrong.
Project 2501
Member
KittenMaster
Member
You don't actually see the DARPA chief die on screen (unless you count the short time you see him in the aftermath of his death during the psychic flashback), Snake was talking to Decoy Octopus disguised as the Darpa Chief.
Yeah, and it's possible that Big Boss himself was showing his recessive gene traits (at least AFAIK, I could be wrong on the science of it).
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
Finally found out where I had heard that from:
YongYea's summary of the Game Informer coverage on MGSV.
However, looking over the actual writing, he may have been mistaken:
Game Informer said:
Oh well. Guess I was probably wrong, since it looks like YongYea misread the article. If we were to draw the same conclusions as he did, Volgin has been confirmed to appear in TPP too.
Project 2501
Member
Very true. I was referring to the poster who commented that Sigint dies before he was a character (which as I type that sentence I realize how weird that comment is). He died before we knew he was Sigint. We did get to meet Sigint we just didn't know that's who it was. I think I've gone cross eyed.
He didn't help kids in Metal Gear 2. He purposefully set out to make kids orphans in his wars, taking them in afterwards in order to expand his army.
Big Boss was a dick, man. It's about time MGSV shows us what he actually turns into.
Berserker976
Member
Well... he does, I mean
the DARPA chief (Sigint) dies before Solid Snake even gets to Shadow Moses, you never interact with him until MGS3.
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
Amen. He wasn't seen murdering children in MG2, but he openly admitted to causing wars to create orphans, then training those orphans to fight more wars in order to create a cycle of hatred and war. He's crazy, and it's not crazy to think he takes some drastic steps to get revenge in MGSV.
One of the biggest "WTF?" moments for me - he can't become that diabolical, right?.. right?
I want to know what the heck is going on in that time after Motherbase gets bombed and Big Boss gets his entire life fucked
Yep
Yeah.
Graphics Horse
Member
You see his corspe though.
Pretty fucked up. Wonder if that's an actual thing that was done to POWs at some point.
Ok so according to the Metal Gear wiki, Ocelot was 70 when he died. Even if this isn't true Snake says that Ocelot is a kid in MGS3, implying he is older than him.
Big Boss is confirmed to be 49 in the Phantom Pain in 1984, making Ocelot 40 in the game (assuming that his age is correct). Why does Ocelot looks so much older than BB?
Big Boss is confirmed to be 49 in the Phantom Pain in 1984, making Ocelot 40 in the game (assuming that his age is correct). Why does Ocelot looks so much older than BB?
AgentLampshade
Member
It's the moustache.
Dick Justice
Banned
And silver hair.
I think they used to do that to prisoners in Ancient China.
The age difference is about 10 years. Ocelot's around 19-20 years old in Snake Eater, being born 20 or so years before 1964. Snake's about 30.
I wouldn't be surprised if Big Boss ends up endorsing hair dye in TPP. That's the major thing that makes Ocelot 'look' older. It's a little strange though, yeah.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
If Liquid
was a natural blond and Snake is naturally dark haired what colour hair did Solidus have.
I hope it was always granpa grey
Eli
I hope it was always granpa grey
Graphics Horse
Member
The grey hair is misleading, I guess. He doesn't really look old.
#teamChico
Liberty White.
Big Boss was a code name given to him by the American government so since he's dissociated himself with them, he doesn't use it anymore I guess.
As far as the patch goes, some people have told me that maybe its an homage to his old unit. Who knows, but he does have a MSF patch on the other arm.
KittenMaster
Member
It's rare for him to actually be called Snake, I think it's a "between friends" thing at this point (and only friends like Chico, Kaz calls him "Boss", and Paz has referred to him by both names) and I think the casting reel description of him is a continuity error for this reason. As far as the larger political/military powers are concerned, he is Big Boss.
The opposite, he actually embraced the name at the end of Peace Walker which is why people are so confused on this issue, because it doesn't make sense (and like I said, I personally think it's a continuity error.)
Probably for sentimental reasons, and because FOX has been disbanded by then. I don't think it was ever brought up in Peace Walker. What I do know is that Kojima took advantage of this to show him as opposite to XOF in the intro.
Brown. This is implied due to him being an exact replica of Big Boss.
giancarlo123x
Banned
I should probably replay it. It's been too many years and I did it when Subsistence came out on PS2. I'll go through it on Vita around when PP comes out.
Not a dick. Just a dude who wakes up from a coma with severe brain damage.
It's tragic, yo.
If there is one person I trust with the visual Identity of metal Gear it's Yoji Shinkawa.
Link
There is concept art in the MGS2 Artbook of him (As Pliskin) with undeniably blonde hair as well. Putting aside all of this and the fact that
Eva
How is MGS a retcon? I honestly don't know never having played mg1 or 2.