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[Njocky]

Sony needs to reduce the price of the PS5 ASAP. It can't cost the same as the XSX anymore. Is not the same value hardware of software wise and if they can no longer count on same old cynical anti Microsoft slogans that have permeated the minds of gamers (with Sony and part of the media's help) such as "Xbox doesn't have games" or "Sony's exclusives are unique blockbusters , we therefore charge 8 months worth of game pass where our competitor makes the game available for free to their subscribers".
It's simple economics. The competition now has the better hardware, software and services. Soppy fanboys will remain loyal until the end but if this is not reflected on the price, the mass market will speak soon enough. Your turn, Sony.

 

[Deto]

Sony needs to reduce the price of the PS5 ASAP. It can't cost the same as the XSX anymore. Is not the same value hardware of software wise and if they can no longer count on same old cynical anti Microsoft slogans that have permeated the minds of gamers (with Sony and part of the media's help) such as "Xbox doesn't have games" or "Sony's exclusives are unique blockbusters , we therefore charge 8 months worth of game pass where our competitor makes the game available for free to their subscribers".
It's simple economics. The competition now has the better hardware, software and services. Soppy fanboys will remain loyal until the end but if this is not reflected on the price, the mass market will speak soon enough. Your turn, Sony.

LOL

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

the more i hear takes on it, the more i think Todd is just talking about the many Xboxes and PCs and Phones that will have access to... but if the games are coming to PS5 aswell then the point would be just to have those same games on Gamepass day 1 at no additional costs

i dont know if thats a big enough pull for it to be worth it though

It will be if those games are timed exclusives on the Xbox ecosystem before coming over to PS (and Nintendo) platforms. I can seem them doing this with many of these games currently under pre-existing publishing contracts but malleable release terms for multi-platform.

Going forward, almost any new game I'm thinking there's be timed exclusivity to Xbox and PC, some also with Gamepass, and it'll be a few months up to a year before they drop on Sony and/or Nintendo platforms (for some games, if ever).

 

[Endless Fluff]

Really curious what Gamepass is going to look like in 5 years. MS has been buying devs left and right to prepare for next gen/make gamepass more desirable and they aren't finished. Phil still wants a japanese studio.

If Microsoft decides to keep Doom, Elder Scrolls, Fallout etc to themselves then this was a massive hit for Playstation. Elder Scrolls alone is a system seller for many people.

 

[Dodkrake]

The meltdown on that other place is magnificent, in one breath desperate Sony fans are calling for their favourite company to buy Square-Enix/Capcom/etc, to make their IPs exclusive, while also begging MS to make their IPs multiplat.

That's sad.

 

[Gen.Grievous]

Fire Bethesda and put Obsidian in charge of the Fall Out series. Yeah baby!

 

[cyberheater]

The meltdown on that other place is magnificent, in one breath desperate Sony fans are calling for their favourite company to buy Square-Enix/Capcom/etc, to make their IPs exclusive, while also begging MS to make their IPs multiplat.

What other place?

 

[MilkyJoe]

One for him, actually it's a bit wide.

 

[LittleBusters]

I always wonder if these acquisitions really make sense. MS could finance 75 exclusive AAA games, each costing $100 million dollar, for that money. Now they've just got the studios and the IPs. The IPs are valuable but IMO both Fallout and Elder Scrolls are long past their prime. IMO it's a waste of money.

First of all their is no set formula that AAA IPs cost $100 million now. In fact I've heard they cost $300-$500 million now and that's before marketing costs.

However I did the math, in order for MSFT to make this money back they'd need to sell:

10 million new XSS/XSX + 25 million Game Pass subscribers
OR
21 million new XSS/XSX
OR
some other combinations.

The point is I just don't see how they ever make this money back.

 

[iorek21]

This is huge

Even more if TES becomes a exclusive. Congratulations, Microsoft.

I doubt Sony will do anything about it

 

[Illo]

Huge acquisition.

Now I really need to build a PC so I can buy and play Elder Scrolls 6.

Besides that. It sucks I won't be able to play Elder Scrolls 6 on PS5

 

[Orta]

Wait a minute so what’s the point of the Acquisition when the games are not going to be exclusive, I’m sorry but that makes no sense.

Maybe, just maybe MS are investing in their own product hoping that players will buy that product as a result of said investment. You know? Like they've done with Playground games, Ninja Theory, etc.

If Sony had bought out Bethesda this place would be pissing itself with laughter and declaring it a masterstroke investment.

 

[7DeadleeScenes]

Do it, with Obsidian also in XGS it would have been amazing. MS being RPG powerhouse. However PS gamers would be shafted, which is not nice...

They wanted that shaft. Been going at the xbox brand for a minute now.

 

[ULTROS!]

I'm hearing this argument a lot but if that's the case why are Sony so reluctant to put their exclusives on PC?

Sony’s strategy is that they want you to get it on PlayStation first then once sales dwindle, put it on PC for others to get. Which actually works. People do buy PlayStation for these games.

Most of Microsoft’s games don’t sell as big as Sony’s (exception is Minecraft) so putting it PC and Xbox and Game Pass and simultaneously works for them.

* edit: I just realized Halo isn’t as big now compared to the likes of Spider-Man, TLOU, God of War.

They have different strategies, the blockbuster model works for Sony, the Game Pass model works for Microsoft.

Honestly, I think console wars are dying to the point that the big 3 have different markets and different services (Sony = blockbusters + niche, Microsoft = game pass, Nintendo = family friendly and chill)

 

[abacab driver]

All I can say is wow.
The Xbox first party portfolio is something else...and combined with gamepass? This gen is going to be wonderful.

 

[CatLady]

You're so right and it makes me sad.

MS are single-handedly ruining gaming as a hobby.

I see a lot of either delusional or bitter Sony fans in this thread.

Delusional fans - Thinking Xbox is going to put all their games on the Holy Sony box

Bitter fans - Who are dealing in reality

 

[Gen.Grievous]

This is huge

Even more if TES becomes a exclusive. Congratulations, Microsoft.

I doubt Sony will do anything about it

What can they do? This is money hatting on a scale Sony cannot afford haha.

 

[iconmaster]

Social media manager @Xbox

 

[Bernkastel]

What other place?

You know the purple site.

 

[rapid32.5]

In terms of getting next gen system. This deal evens out everything for me. I was leaning towards PS5 -60% and XSX 40%. I love competition, you just watch and enjoy the show.

 

[LittleBusters]

Guess I will restart that Gamepass subscription soon.
This is big!!! No next Elder Scrolls, Fallout or Doom on PS systems? Holy shit! This almost rivals the PS studios in one hit.

Latest Sony IPs selling in the range of 10 million units. There is no guarantee Elder Scrolls, Fallout or Doom will be such big sellers with their sequels.

 

[Little Chicken]

Wow, what a time to be alive!

 

[SirTerry-T]

This industry is fucking bonkers.

 

[RyanEvans21]

Wait a minute so what’s the point of the Acquisition when the games are not going to be exclusive, I’m sorry but that makes no sense.

Its not microsoft aiming for. More Platform More money for them.

 

[JLMC469]

What can they do? This is money hatting on a scale Sony cannot afford haha.

$7.5 billion. Damn!

In today’s climate. This is insane.

The proposal for the acquisition must be at least 100 pages.

 

[Hendrick's]

If Bethesda games aren’t going to be exclusive to XBox, this ain’t quite the big deal it seems...

It doesn't say anything about PS5.

 

[Red Rackham's Revenge]

Oh wow. This might actually make me buy an Xbox.

So Xbox is lining up to be the system for RPGs. Nice.

 

[Megatron]

Sony buys timed exclusives and then obfuscates the messaging to make people think they bought full exclusives.

MS just buys the whole company so there is NO doubt.

Baller move, right there.

 

[Dolomite]

Yeah I understand that, however I was more talking about that Xbox at Microsoft have such a large "warchest"...

Yep if we're breaking down MS as a division, xbox makes just a fraction of it's wealth.
Xbox is like the kid who can run home and get his rich dad to buy your house because you said your dad was stronger.

 

[small_law]

I've been into video games for 35 years and I've never seen anything like this crazy ass month.

 

[Orpheum]

Jesus christ...

Welp. Guess i'm never going to play TES6

 

[xion4360]

Latest Sony IPs selling in the range of 10 million units. There is no guarantee Elder Scrolls, Fallout or Doom will be such big sellers with their sequels.

the idea is to build up to that.

 

[Ogbert]

Lol.

That’s an absolute fucking megaton.

Guess I’m buying an X too.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

What other place?

 

[Hotty Botty]

I’ll probably have to get a new PC with Game Pass now.

 

[Humdinger]

I'm a big Elder Scrolls fan, and I am looking forward to Starfield (although I don't know much about it yet). If those games turn out to be exclusive, I'll buy an Xbox to play them in a few years, when Starfield comes out. By then, maybe Xbox will have Fable and something else I'd like, too.

If Bethesda games aren’t going to be exclusive to XBox, this ain’t quite the big deal it seems...

I don't think that quote rules out exclusivity. "A belief we should bring that to everyone - regardless of who you are, where you live, or what you play on. Regardless of the screen size, the controller, or your ability to even use one."

It sounds more like a feel-good statement that echoes MS's "Play Anywhere" motto. He may just be talking about PC, smartphones, tablets, etc. -- all the devices MS wants to get GP on. It doesn't necessarily mean being able to play the game on PS4/5.

 

[LittleBusters]

Also what everyone is forgetting is this basically just destroyed Google Stadia. Google also had the cash to pull off this deal and I think Bethesda just didn't want a non-gaming company owning them. So major CHAD move by Phil to checkmate Google.

 

[Croatoan]

There is about to be a bidding war between Sony and MS for From software.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

It doesn't say anything about PS5.

Todd is clearly talking about Gamepass and xCloud, whoever thinks he's bringing up Sony platforms in his announcement about being bought by Microsoft is out of their god damned minds.

 

[Diddy X]

I was here wtf

 

[McCarth]

This makes Obsidian developing Avowed all the more strange IMO... Clearly this wasn't an acquisition that has been long in the making. Would love to see how MS proper has quantified the potential ROI on this purchase, but I have to believe they've amortized it over at minimum a decade.

This is a major, major move and a huge leap for the Xbox division. It HAS to pay dividends for them.

 

[BouncyFrag]

If ES goes exclusive, I’ll have to go with the X.

 

[Zoro7]

Well they had to go big and they did. Looks like I’ll have to eventually buy an Xbox.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Sony needs to reduce the price of the PS5 ASAP. It can't cost the same as the XSX anymore. Is not the same value hardware of software wise and if they can no longer count on same old cynical anti Microsoft slogans that have permeated the minds of gamers (with Sony and part of the media's help) such as "Xbox doesn't have games" or "Sony's exclusives are unique blockbusters , we therefore charge 8 months worth of game pass where our competitor makes the game available for free to their subscribers".
It's simple economics. The competition now has the better hardware, software and services. Soppy fanboys will remain loyal until the end but if this is not reflected on the price, the mass market will speak soon enough. Your turn, Sony.

Phils' power plays aren't an excuse to act retarded now my boy

 

[Dolomite]

I’m glad they bought Bethesda instead of WB Games, they really don’t have anything worthy to go for.

Not gonna lie I wanted MK vs KI and batman exclusive when the rumors were flirting

 

[Ogbert]

Don’t worry Sony fanboys.

You’ll still get your exclusive Fortnite skins courtesy of the Epic deal.

 

[JLMC469]

Prey, Dishonored, Fallout, Wolfenstein, Elders Scrolls, DOOM, Starfield, Rage...

Fucking insane start to the week.

 

[Iced Arcade]

Like the previous studios purchasing... Games already in development will remain in place for all other consoles. But after that, it's all Xbox/pc

 

[Flintty]

For those of you complaining about this, it’s entirely the fault of Sony.

Instead of sitting comfortably on a huge lead in the market, they went for the kill shot, buying exclusivity and trying to buy devs in an attempt to freeze MS out and eliminate them from the market, which would have been terrible for the industry.

This is escalation.

 

[aliadiere25]

I'd imagine Sony had a deal with Bethesda before this takeover about getting Elder Scrolls 6, Starfield and future Fallout games for their console. Now, Microsoft may eventually make them Xbox exclusive series, but I doubt it's going to be anytime soon. They're not that dumb.