clearacell
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Deg said:
...except it's an add on while PS3's will be internal and fully functional out of the box, which would mean it's more likely people will buy the PS3's movie format rather than the 360's.
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Microsoft announces external HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360
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...except it's an add on while PS3's will be internal and fully functional out of the box, which would mean it's more likely people will buy the PS3's movie format rather than the 360's.
JackFrost2012 said:Guys, guys. Things may seem confusing now, but in a few months there should be a new hardware revision that combines the gaming functionality, HDD, and hi-def movie playback of the fragmented Xbox 360 userbase into a single unit.
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OH MY GOD NO HE WENT THERE
thinkjose1
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VPhys said:
It would be cheaper because the Xbox 360 already has the power to decode the video. All this needs is the laser, I believe.
JackFrost2012 said:Guys, guys. Things may seem confusing now, but in a few months there should be a new hardware revision that combines the gaming functionality, HDD, and hi-def movie playback of the fragmented Xbox 360 userbase into a single unit.
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Yeah, enjoy that PS3 hard drive, champ.
JackFrost2012 said:Guys, guys. Things may seem confusing now, but in a few months there should be a new hardware revision that combines the gaming functionality, HDD, and hi-def movie playback of the fragmented Xbox 360 userbase into a single unit.
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Is there really going to be a HDD in it, though?
HomerSimpson-Man
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Jonnyram said:
Well, the PS2 American launches that same year certainly have the slot.
dynamitejim
Member
m0dus said:
Because this + lack of supply to meet demand + unpolished launch software starts to paint an even more clear picture that the 360 was rushed. I think MS should've just stuck to their guns and not even gotten involved in the BR/HD-DVD wars.
CarlosX360
Banned
Wow.clearacell said:
You guys are overusing the whole "Tard Pack" insult...First "Tard Pack" is meant to insult the Core System, now they're using this announcement as an insult to injury, taking one step further with "Tard Pack."
Brofist
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Shogmaster said:
well to be fair both the Q and the PSX were stand alone units and not add-on devices. I think people get a bit more freaked out by add-on devices.
I don't even own a 360, but personally I think if the price is right this isn't a bad move by MS as HD-DVD isn't a proven format and they didn't want to take the risk in making it standard in Xbox360 systems. If the external drive fails, it will disappear off the shelves, and a year later will be a distant memory as people still play their Xbox360 games. But imagine if it was built in to the system and the format failed, that would probably be a huge blow as the 360 would be seen as the system with the format that failed.
Hurricane_Chris
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BlueTsunami said:
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Mr_Furious
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I applaud your diligence but give it up. These people are incapable of understanding what you say.m0dus said:
Shogmaster
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Insertia said:
The exact same way flash memory card readers benefit the PS3.
JackFrost2012
Banned
Sony must be popping bottles of champagne right now.
Now, when a consumer goes to compare the PS3 to the Xbox 360, they'll compare the cost of the PS3 to the cost of the Xbox 360 + HD-DVD add-on. Because the PS3 has hi-def movie playback out of the box.
Microsoft just handed Sony a HUGE price window to work with, and when Sony strikes back it is going to look very, very ugly.
Now, when a consumer goes to compare the PS3 to the Xbox 360, they'll compare the cost of the PS3 to the cost of the Xbox 360 + HD-DVD add-on. Because the PS3 has hi-def movie playback out of the box.
Microsoft just handed Sony a HUGE price window to work with, and when Sony strikes back it is going to look very, very ugly.
Shogmaster
Sloppy seconds
kpop100 said:
What you're saying would be right on the ball IF HD-DVD ADD-ON WAS FOR GAMES. Thanks for playing though.
CarlosX360
Banned
This announcement has nothing to do with gamng, at all....They're offering you the choice to watch HD-DVD on your Xbox 360. Maybe in the future, when they make a smaller 360, they're going to include this into the system itself, but I think for the short term, this will work.
And besides, I don't think this will be as advertised as Xbox 360 itself is.
And besides, I don't think this will be as advertised as Xbox 360 itself is.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
i need a help with this new maths problem :
a = $399 + ?? = ??
b = $??? + ?? = ??
therefore , b is better than a
can you fill in the rest??
I wonder if MS will maintain their $??? to match sonys $??? , or whether they'll bundle the $??? thing with the $??? pack to give the customers a $??? ??? pack?
Shogmaster said:The exact same way flash memory card readers benefit the PS3.
I thought those slots were for game saves also. Maybe a photo viewer built in but that's not game related unless you can use it for a game's photomode or some kind of eyetoy 2 functionality. Also it's built in so there is no accessory cost since it serves an essential function.
BenjaminBirdie
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DCharlie said:i need a help with this new maths problem :
a = $399 + ?? = ??
b = $??? + ?? = ??
therefore , b is better than a
can you fill in the rest??
I wonder if MS will maintain their $??? to match sonys $??? , or whether they'll bundle the $??? thing with the $??? pack to give the customers a $??? ??? pack?
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:lol :lolYou fucking win, Broseph.
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Jonnyram said:
Comes with USB ports, who knows
HomerSimpson-Man
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Eh, as something I feel should probably have just been there from the begining it's still a far cry from a 32X and Sega CD as those systems actually splintered what can be played on the Genesis. Unless MS starts being foolish enough to make games on HD-DVD outside of special editions of the same DVD games, than it would just go down as a novelty side affect sort of like PS2's HDD.
If anything it just undermines the overall value of the 360 compared to Sony's built-in HD movie function, but if it doesn't splinter the gaming portion, which is the most important, it's not that bad; it's a cheaper alternative HD movie player for X360 owners that's all.
If anything it just undermines the overall value of the 360 compared to Sony's built-in HD movie function, but if it doesn't splinter the gaming portion, which is the most important, it's not that bad; it's a cheaper alternative HD movie player for X360 owners that's all.
JackFrost2012 said:
I agree with this. I think MS is diminishing the value of their system when they pull a move like this.
We'll see how it turns out, but it is possible to give customers too much choice and confuse them in the process.
Dcharlie said:i need a help with this new maths problem :
a = $399 + ?? = ??
b = $??? + ?? = ??
therefore , b is better than a
can you fill in the rest??
You only need to read Kaz Hirai's comments about pricing Playstation products to know that the PS3 won't be above $399, if not cheaper.
JackFrost2012
Banned
If standalone players will sell for $500 and $800, then what's the absolute cheapest MS could sell the add-on for?
My guess is $149, and even $199 seems likely. $99 is impossible. Remember, unlike Sony and BluRay movies, MS doesn't see any royalties on HD-DVD movies--and if the strap-on drive stays movie only, then they'll never see a dime in royalties from its sales, period. Microsoft is done throwing money away, remember, so they need to keep it profitable somehow.
So...what happens when PS3 launches at $399? Or even, God forbid, $499? Sony still comes out ahead in the price wars--plus they have the more supported, (seemingly) more desirable format for movie playback.
If MS had packed in HD-DVD, they could have built a base for the format. This seems like Divx gone horribly worse.
My guess is $149, and even $199 seems likely. $99 is impossible. Remember, unlike Sony and BluRay movies, MS doesn't see any royalties on HD-DVD movies--and if the strap-on drive stays movie only, then they'll never see a dime in royalties from its sales, period. Microsoft is done throwing money away, remember, so they need to keep it profitable somehow.
So...what happens when PS3 launches at $399? Or even, God forbid, $499? Sony still comes out ahead in the price wars--plus they have the more supported, (seemingly) more desirable format for movie playback.
If MS had packed in HD-DVD, they could have built a base for the format. This seems like Divx gone horribly worse.
dynamitejim
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m0dus said:Well, from what I've played, PGR's pretty polished. COD2's pretty polished. RR6's pretty polished. NBA2k6 is pretty polished. DOA's pretty polished. Kameo's pretty polished. condemned's pretty polished. The system's Live integration is unbelievably smooth, and the windows streaming is, for the most part, excellent. I'd say it all around looks pretty well carried out, save for the supply issue. Again. Forum perceptions =/ public perceptions
Sure, a lot of those games are ports/Xbox 1 upgrades though. Not to mention public perception turns negative quickly when hardware manufactureres start nickle-and-diming them to get the same functionality as other similar products.
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Shompola said:
But how many can they sell? The PS2 sold less than 1 million HDDs and thats with a game and that's with 100 million units sold.
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Vennt
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Kleegamefan
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m0dus said:
Why does he have to rebuy movies if HD-DVD players and BD-ROM player both play DVDs (upconverted, I might add)
He can watch is existing DVD collection or If a new movie comes out, he can either buy it on regular DVD or on HD-DVD/BD.....if he bought a new HDTV he can do whatever he wants.....keep buying DVDs which are upscaled to 720p or buy the newer format when it is warrented in his eyes....
truffleshuffle83
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xbox ports?? are you fucking kidding me??? have you even played PGR3, condemend, COD2, madden , NBA
monkeymagic
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JackFrost2012 said:
This pretty much covers everything.
It's a win win for Sony.
Had MS used their tens (or is it hundreds) of billions in the bank to INCLUDE HD-DVD with X360 for $299 then Sony would be in serious trouble.
But they didn't.
So they're not
fortified_concept
Banned
Wow. All I can say is...
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Shogmaster
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SKOPE said:
It'd be easier to put together a list of GAF-ers that do read.
mckmas8808 said:
I dont know. Guess it depends on how it is marketed and the MSRP. But the point is that the addon isnt there to push the Xbox 360. The Xbox 360 however is there to push the addon and effectively HD-DVD. I dont really think it was initially MSs idea... more likely it is Toshiba I think.
Gahiggidy said:
i thought this too but then someone made a good point, the "star power" of final fantasy XI was enough to push through the PS2 HDD and make it work. I mean i can;t think of much else offhand that uses the HDD.
now if MS wants to release games on the thing, if they bundle it with something like Halo or another insanely popular title with "star power", shit man.. you never know i guess
Stinkles said:
agreed. i have to say, GAF thus far has really kept this dicussion above the usual childish insult-hurling level. kudos!