PresetError
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The case you describe it's not me but what about the people that have been complaining about anti-consumer Sony for years and now is celebrating Microsoft doing it?
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The case you describe it's not me but what about the people that have been complaining about anti-consumer Sony for years and now is celebrating Microsoft doing it?
jimbojim
Banned
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Your writing makes my brain hurt.
I'm not even talking about ads. I'm talking about Sega arcades. Tokyo's full of them in basically every popular location, and they're extremely visible. Some of these popular locations have multiple.
But what do I know, I just stay in Tokyo 3 months a year and have for the past 9 years excluding the past 6 months due to travel restrictions. I'd be there right now if the border was open
From the ludicrous ideas you express, I would be surprised if you have ever even talked to a Japanese gamer, let alone having any idea about what they think.
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TigerKnee
Member
Man ya'll need to think bigger. I don't know but I am foaming at the mouth at a next gen Virtua Fighter, Daytona, etc.. Not only that, but imagine if the Dreamcast catalog was on Game Pass? And Saturn?
Guy Legend
Member
Well if Sega goes to Microsoft.. then Sega can rejoin the console war and get revenge on Sony for the Saturn/Dreamcast.
GetemMa
Member
Nah. I don't buy it. I would be very surprised. SEGA is a big arcade company. It's not just all consoles for them at all. I don't think MS is that desperate to get into Japan and if they were, SEGA is the answer? When your competition is a very strong Nintendo and a very strong Sony, I don't think SEGA gets you much action in Japan. They make a few good games and own Atlus, but compared to Nintendo these are niche franchises. Obviously not impossible but I don't think MS gains a lot from this acquisition unless they are really wanting to get in on the Japanese arcade/slot scene.
frogger
Member
Would be amusing. Saturn is Sega's own fault, but Dreamcast is an amazing console.
loktaiextatus
Member
Your writing makes my brain hurt.
I'm not even talking about ads. I'm talking about Sega arcades. Tokyo's full of them in basically every popular location. Some of these popular locations have multiple.
But what do I know, I just stay in Tokyo 3 months a year and have for the past 9 years excluding the past 6 months due to travel restrictions.
From how you speak, I would be surprised if you have ever even talked to a Japanese gamer, let alone having any idea about what they think.
"Their brand is visible basically everywhere in Tokyo right now as it has been for decades. " Nah you are talking about billboards.
I love your personality. Its so reasonable. Full of interesting ad hominem accusations and assumptions.
I like how you brag about staying in Japan as a guest. The japanese would probably CRINGE because someone who only spends
a quarter of their time there is telling foreigners exactly how the Japanese think and whats important to them. It would be like
if I stayed with my relatives in France every summer and began to lecture someone from Germany on french culture because you see... I've been there every year
and they have NO IDEA what they are talking about... No... the news is wrong, numbers are wrong, sales are wrong, absolutely my bubble
as an outsider spending time in France dictates what the french TRULY believe.
Firstly, Japan isnt a country of console gamers. Its a full country. Just because a few percent of the population likes a company doesnt mean
its iconic to the entire country and its some kind of national treasure. In the USA everyone has heard of MAACO, they were all over TV, all over
billboards, MAACO everywhere. Nobody would cry if MAACO were acquired.
What makes MY brain hurt is the fact that you've made a lecture out of a comment that was not directed at anybody as argumentative and
have proceeded to spew a litany of bizarrely framed fallacious arguments.
Ad hominem
No true scotsman
argument from authority.
Man I can tell you one thing... You should have stayed home and gone to summer school instead of visiting Japan.
Maybe signed up for a debate class.
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spookyfish
Member
Wild speculation and rumors are two different things.
Also, Microsoft has a Japanese studio. It's called Tango Gameworks.
This Bethesda acquisition thing certainly had one clear effect. It made people on the internet 20 times dumber.
PS: don't title things as fact when you're just vomiting crap from 4chan, please.
Not laughing with derision. Laughing because I agree with you.
mykedo0909
Member
i was really wondering on why the new yakuza game was promoted like that, and even more confused about that blue controller.... coincidece?
Bryank75
Banned
Yes but they could just let them operate as a wholly owned subsidiary and let them continue as normal except for their games being exclusive...which I think must be taken seriously, given the strong hints.Your writing makes my brain hurt.
I'm not even talking about ads. I'm talking about Sega arcades. Tokyo's full of them in basically every popular location, and they're extremely visible. Some of these popular locations have multiple.
But what do I know, I just stay in Tokyo 3 months a year and have for the past 9 years excluding the past 6 months due to travel restrictions. I'd be there right now if the border was open
From the ludicrous ideas you express, I would be surprised if you have ever even talked to a Japanese gamer, let alone having any idea about what they think.
I wouldn't like it and I think it is bad for Sega and it's IP's.
Unless they just bought Sonic...
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Mochilador
Member
MS decided to drop 7.5 billions on ZeniMax instead.
poodaddy
Member
If they offer me 150 on what I paid I'll be making out like a bandit.
Microsoft! My property would be perfect for a game studio space! I mean sure it's right in the middle of fucking Nowhere WA but......imagine the productivity with the time saved on commuting, and it's extremely close to a liquor store as well!
Cash up front.
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JLMC469
Banned
10%-20% over MV and I would gladly sell.
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yurqqa
Member
They already tried it at OG XBOX time and with some great games.
DIdn't really work that time.
Ogbert
Member
Whilst there is an element of hypocrisy, there really is a fundamental difference.
MS is putting these on a subscription service that is the annual cost of less than two Sony releases. It's demonstrably pro-consumer, in that it's giving us a lot more for a lot less.
What actually *is* anti-consumer is Sony trying to lead people down the digital PS5 route, to destroy the second hand game market and make sure everyone pays top dollar on their store.
Bryank75
Banned
By producing vastly more disc versions and barely any DE's?
I don't think you have that right....
splattered
Member
What all studios would they actually get from a SEGA acquisition?
Ogbert
Member
Just looked it up.
That’s only current stock. Jim Ryan refused to disclose what the ratio of digital vs disc is.
PresetError
Neophyte
You can't possibly be THAT naive. If you think Microsoft won't pass their spending on to you if/once they have the gaming market on chokehold you're setting yourself for a hard awakening.
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Aion002
Member
CS1 R&D (includes Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio)
CS2 R&D (also includes Sonic Team)
Creative Assembly (Total War)
Sports Interactive (Football Manager)
Relic Entertainment (Company of Heroes and Dawn of War)
Amplitude Studios
Two Point Studios
And Atlus that would hurt Sony and Nintendo a lot in Japan.
There are also mobile and arcade studios.
If MS buys Sega, they could put a lot of money on Atlus and make them a JRPG machine, releasing a shit ton of titles to get consumers in Japan and worldwide. Then MS would have all RPG flanks covered.
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Lone Wolf
Member
As a SEGA fanboy I would like this.
a multicultural team of v
Member
no but you see, you cant destroy a secondhand game market if you never own the games to begin with because you are just renting them [image of that guy tapping his head]
Lionel Richie
Member
FUCKING DO IT BASED PHIL!
PresetError
Neophyte
Exactly. In fact, gaming isn't almost entirely a digital market since 2013 because of Sony. The nerve you need to blame Sony for that unavoidable transition that Microsoft has been pushing for decades...
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Bryank75
Banned
Believe me, the DE's were and are impossible to get. I know...
martino
Member
I'm sure that if you ask them correctly they will tell you what is anti consumer is buying specific game (time or full exclusivivity) from studio and not to buy studio and take the risk and commitment to produce the content yourself (with consequence when you fail)
what ms did is what sony did with most of their own studios. they just did it quicker on a big scale because they can (and really needed it to stay relevant)
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splattered
Member
Nice! I'd like to see a chart of all the current and previous popular games associated with each studio.
Would that include Arc Systems games or is that totally separate? I can't remember the relationship with developer/publisher and who did what. I'm thinking it's totally unrelated though..
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure buying Bethesda took up all of the "acquiring game companies" budget.
PresetError
Neophyte
Yeah, because people didn't cry at all about Sony first party games like Bloodborne, Spider-man or Persona 5 not being multiplat although they were funded by Sony. By the way, paying for a timed exclusive is also funding a game and taking a risk.
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Ogbert
Member
Of course.
And when they behave like that, Sony or Nintendo or whoever it may be will come up with the more compelling offer for customers.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Yep, that's a given.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Didn’t Microsoft start the no used games, assigned to your console only, check in 24/7 and DRM fiasco which caused a massive backlash? Not to mention last time I checked, they have an all digital console as well that has the same intentions as Sony’s. Not sure buying up companies and forcing them to make games for a subscription service is as pro consumer as people think.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
MS could make up there sever lack of Jrpgs with a purchase like this. AKA.... I want a new AAA phantasy star!
I guess they could also resurrect shinobi, shinning force, virtua fighter, virtua on, daytona, alex kid and altered beast AFTER that though.
I would love to see those and a new OFFLINE Phantasy Star, but Sega seems obsessed with the online one for some reason. I’ve been requesting it for years and years.
martino
Member
port beg =/= claiming it's anti consummer .
It seems you're mixing a lot of things
Esppiral
Member
Sega GT 2000, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Shenmue 2, Jet Set Radio Future, Outrun, etc etc, it worked for me
Genx3
Member
MS never actually did it so no.
MS planned on doing it but no one was ok with it so they had no choice but to change their plan before they launched.
levyjl1988
Banned
Would be amazing for Microsoft to get Sega. All their IP and Sonic as a mascot. Microsoft can make a Sonic game well and Sonic did so well in theatres.
Jimmyisback
Banned
Why not both gif