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Microsoft //build/ 2015 |OT| Write Once
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Pocket Casts was released yesterday.
Even if so, what difference does it even make? You're doubting that in a world with self driving cars they can't make a pathfinding robot? Even just from a camera perspective, the AR was working perfectly, the terrain was mapped correctly and the little robot thingy was constantly floating exactly on top of the robot.
So it is good? Will try it out. Thanks.
Alx
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The view from the camera perspective probably was an easier task to be honest. It certainly had similar sensor information as the hololens (depth image, motions), but with a powerful PC to do the computations, while as an embedded device the Hololens hardware has more restrictions.
I wouldn't be surprised if the experience seen from the "helmet" was less smooth than what we saw, even if it's the same software on both ends.
arhra
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I think it's the "what we already know about HoloLens" that people are sceptical about.
The demos still seem just a little too slick and sci-fi to be truly representative.
Then again, we'll be getting hands-on impressions soon enough presumably, so we'll have people comparing the reality to the demo to see how it holds up.
Yep, probably the case. But this is proof-of-concept tech. It won't take long to scale down the size of the processor and make it more efficient as they go along. The AR software is what's most impressive though. They are coming with amazing concepts of how it can be used but there is still a long way to go to have it be a standalone unwired device as they said themselves.
I think it's more along the lines of.... The video coming from HoloLens is not going to be near enough high quality for demonstration and there would be lack of image stabilization due to lack of need.
That in itself would not be very accurate to an end user to what the people whi are using the device are seeing.
justsomeguy
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Plus there's probably not even a forward-facing video camera on the hololens, only a depth sensor (I could be totally wrong) edit: I must be wrong based on the structural engineer demo, ignore me.
Well... The Skype conversation stuff probably wouldn't work without one....
justsomeguy
Member
Go me.Why the Mac App Store Sucks
Some of these aspects will certainly apply to the Windows Store, too, other aspects of the criticism ultimately depend on Microsoft's specific implementation. But for paid apps, keep this in mind:
On the technical side of things, and I assume it's true for future Windows Store Win32 apps as well since they run in a sandboxed/virtual environment:
So people who expect every Windows program to appear in the Store and thus have it work flawlessly across all Windows devices may be in for a (negative) surprise. As a Mac user, I get the Apple office suite, Twitter, Reeder, Evernote (side note: they've just pushed update 6.0.9 to the Mac App Store today, while the non-MAS-app is at 6.0.10), Microsoft Remote Desktop and Condense through the App Store, everything else - Dropbox, Spotify, Steam, Origin, Cisco AnyConnect, VLC, Adium, Chrome and more - I still have to download separately. Which is disappointing because the concept of one store on the desktop is good for the users as all the apps you get through it are kept up to date, without all these different application-specific update mechanism that usually suck.
But let's see how Microsoft is going to tackle all of this. One advantage of the Windows Store over the Mac App Store is certainly the wide range of devices you can target with one app, compared to just Macs with the Mac App Store. Whether or not that makes up for the downsides then remains to be seen.
Some of these aspects will certainly apply to the Windows Store, too, other aspects of the criticism ultimately depend on Microsoft's specific implementation. But for paid apps, keep this in mind:
On the technical side of things, and I assume it's true for future Windows Store Win32 apps as well since they run in a sandboxed/virtual environment:
So people who expect every Windows program to appear in the Store and thus have it work flawlessly across all Windows devices may be in for a (negative) surprise. As a Mac user, I get the Apple office suite, Twitter, Reeder, Evernote (side note: they've just pushed update 6.0.9 to the Mac App Store today, while the non-MAS-app is at 6.0.10), Microsoft Remote Desktop and Condense through the App Store, everything else - Dropbox, Spotify, Steam, Origin, Cisco AnyConnect, VLC, Adium, Chrome and more - I still have to download separately. Which is disappointing because the concept of one store on the desktop is good for the users as all the apps you get through it are kept up to date, without all these different application-specific update mechanism that usually suck.
But let's see how Microsoft is going to tackle all of this. One advantage of the Windows Store over the Mac App Store is certainly the wide range of devices you can target with one app, compared to just Macs with the Mac App Store. Whether or not that makes up for the downsides then remains to be seen.
Muskieratboi
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Dear Hololens Devs:
Take this -
Integrate with this -
You now have the biggest selling app on the Hololens store.
(For about 5 minutes before MS pulls it and makes it themselves.)
Take this -
Integrate with this -
You now have the biggest selling app on the Hololens store.
(For about 5 minutes before MS pulls it and makes it themselves.)
MrGreencastle
Member
Is there a new Windows 10 TP build today for PC?
What about phones?
What about phones?
Vestal
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Dear Hololens Devs:
Take this -
Integrate with this -
You now have the biggest selling app on the Hololens store.
(For about 5 minutes before MS pulls it and makes it themselves.)
Imagine how many Hololenses would be sold in Japan!
Bomber Bob
Banned
only if you can mod in hatsune miku!
Vestal
Gold Member
How about a Sharron Apple concert with Hololens!
Vyse The Legend
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Any news on the launch of Hololens? Still nebulous?
If I had to guess I'd say we are a year away at least.
Poodlestrike
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Hatsune Miku vs. Cortana singoff!
That's not the point of Build.
Poodlestrike
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Penguins&PolarBears
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I honestly didn't think it looked that slick. The Trimble video definitely fake, but the onstage demo seemed about what I expected. I guess I'm just not that impressed by the visual quality of what I'm seeing on stage.The device as I expected is rendering very sparse primitive graphics from a weak mobile processor. The resolution of apps and videos will probably be very low. The Windows Holographic menu and Skype app didn't even move or render that smoothly. The mapping of the room and 2D plane navigation stuff I've seen on many devices by now including my vacuum cleaner. I've seen demos of drones at CES that were far more impressive navigating a 3D space including the Z-axis.The voice recognition accuracy is probably the least credible aspect of the demos to me.
This product is amazing, but the demo wasn't so impressive it seemed fake or unbelievable to me.
Awesome thanks!
Pejo
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Lots of really cool stuff to read through. I'm really pumped about the Windows 10 phone stuff. I just recently switched to a Oneplus One and I already miss my Windows 10 phone preview, but damn it's nice to have apps again. I hope the measures MS is taking to bring in more apps to the Windows Phone environment pays off. I'll gladly buy whatever the new flagship phone is once it's been proven.
Natureboy99
Banned
Yeah the whole thing was canned. The construction bit was a joke. MS is completely out of touch with reality on this. Seriously, do they think people want to be entertained (or look at anything besides their path) as they walk down the hall???
Remind me, how many electronic head mounted products have been successful in the history of time?
Anton Sugar
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In the future Samsung will sell TV's on the Windows Store:
Need more HoloLens gifs.
Penguins&PolarBears
Member
I think it will be extremely successful if priced right and no supply chain issues.
I don't think MS is out of touch with reality as they've demonstrated tons of productive uses for the product, but I also question if generation one will be more toy than serious productivity tool. I do see the flaws of the generation one product enough to believe it is simultaneously real and less perfect than some people are imagining. I would also easily pay $1000 to play around with this device fully knowing there are tons of version one flaws to be expected. I understand the limitations of the Atom processor, the limited display resolutions for apps and the limited room for batteries in the product. If I could make two suggestions to them it would be to build in a headphone jack and wireless power for someone who wants to outfit their home with the technology.
I'll even take that a step further, because I don't want people in here saying headphones have been successful or any bullshit like that.
How many holographic devices have been successful? None. That's right, fucking 0. Hololens doesn't stand a chance and history proves it. I'll be laughing so hard when this thing puts microsoft out of business.
Yep, one of him.telling the application to follow him would be cool.
Are you the new Miles?
cartoon_soldier
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What the fuck are your expectations with a alternate virtual reality device?
4k, 60 fps?
Are you comparing this to Occulus? Because the use cases are completely different.
4k, 60 fps?
Are you comparing this to Occulus? Because the use cases are completely different.
MilesX? what does he have to do with this? just helping him see how ridiculous his post is.
Oh haha, I'm always hard but I see what you're saying
Natureboy99
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Anton Sugar
Member
X type of device has never been successful in the past; therefore, X type of device will never be successful--ever!
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
Microsoft is really stealing from everyone
This was the Ubuntu Edge concept a few years back:
Did this ever happen? I remember reading about this a couple of years ago.
I think it's better to wait and see the first wave of phones after Win 10. Microsoft badly needs some hero phones.
Bomber Bob
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wait bruh
Sikamikanico
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I just watched the Hololens stuff and my mind is blown. Want!
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