only 50 mil? Holy shit...Now is understandable why TR didn't meet expectations...
I highly doubt they paid 100 mil for TR. I mean, it's a big brand and Microsoft really needed some exclusives but they aren't idiots. There are many ways to better spend that amount like subsidizing gamepass subs or even giving consoles away.
In that Twitter thread they say Horizon Zero Down had a 50 mil budget, just to put things into perspective.
Did you play the game? That game beat the entire Uncharted series and this is coming from someone who actually played it on a damn PS4. I knew it will not stay exclusive. Your average consumer probably did.
$100 million is nothing when they pay $3.5 BILLION for Minecraft right around that time.
I was surprised too, considering they built Decima for that game.only 50 mil? Holy shit...
Gta5 on ps3 was like 265 mil...
It was an awful decision back then. it still is. MS was a mess back then.Right but how much money has that given them back? Is not about the amount of money (obviously they have more than enough) but the expected returns. How stupid would one have to be to expect that a exclusivity deal for TR would have a good ROI for 100 mil?
The last really bad decision I can remember Microsoft made in regards to gaming and purchases was Rare.
I was surprised too, considering they built Decima for that game.
I think GTAV includes a huge marketing campaign. Still the most expensive game so far.
I can't believe MS spent 100m on a timed exclusive deal. There were rumors around 10m back then, that sounds more realistic.
Nah, rdr2 was more expensive.Right but how much money has that given them back? Is not about the amount of money (obviously they have more than enough) but the expected returns. How stupid would one have to be to expect that a exclusivity deal for TR would have a good ROI for 100 mil?
The last really bad decision I can remember Microsoft made in regards to gaming and purchases was Rare.
I was surprised too, considering they built Decima for that game.
I think GTAV includes a huge marketing campaign. Still the most expensive game so far.
Maaaaybe in development (doubt it, probably was higher), but double that for marketing. Sony really pushed it hard (not that it's a bad thing, that real-life Watcher was awesome).In that Twitter thread they say Horizon Zero Down had a 50 mil budget, just to put things into perspective.
Their strategy has definitely improved this gen. That's not a worthwhile investment.
Makes you wonder what it costs for FFXVI, FFVIIR for Sony. Same publisher, so it's gotta be higher than that.
The original deal was intended to be a major focus on Xbox, though. Of course when things quickly went to hell they couldn't simply backtrack on the deal and therefore repurposed it.That wasn't just the Xbox. It was an overall Microsoft partnership that still exists. They still use Surface tablets on the sidelines and Xbox gets the Madden marketing rights.
Its still peanuts. Excuse or not.That's the excuse we are going with now?
Much less. The opportunity cost to developers is less.Now, how much they are paying for getting games on GamePass, makes you think...
100m for fucking nothing, nice job there.
It was such a one-sided deal in favor of Square that the person who negotiated it explicitly puts it on his resume.Wow. That’s stupid money. Could have bought an AA studio for that.
Good point. Probably is.Nah, rdr2 was more expensive.
Wouldn't know for sure, I'm going by this article which was shared in that Twitter thread: https://gearnuke.com/horizon-zero-dawn-production-budget-revealed/Maaaaybe in development (doubt it, probably was higher), but double that for marketing. Sony really pushed it hard (not that it's a bad thing, that real-life Watcher was awesome).
For a trillion dollar company, $100M is sofa change.
Lol, its MS...trust me, 100 million is peanuts to them.
No where near that. They are not paying to keep it off of another platform.Now, how much they are paying for getting games on GamePass, makes you think...
100m for fucking nothing, nice job there.
I don't know, i don't play and follow gta\rdr online stuff.Good point. Probably is.
What do you think about the online expansions? Still below RDR2?
Wouldn't know for sure, I'm going by this article which was shared in that Twitter thread: https://gearnuke.com/horizon-zero-dawn-production-budget-revealed/
I agree with you, this wouldn't include marketing costs at all. Just development (in case it is correct).
Well yeah, but I doubt it sold 1.5m on Xbox alone so they recoup the investment.No where near that. They are not paying to keep it off of another platform.
Their strategy has definitely improved this gen. That's not a worthwhile investment.
Makes you wonder what it costs for FFXVI, FFVIIR for Sony. Same publisher, so it's gotta be higher than that.
And Xbox is still around 20 years later .Trillion dollar companies close divisions that continually lose money/make awful investments.
Its still peanuts. Excuse or not.
What makes you think they paid for it?Their strategy has definitely improved this gen. That's not a worthwhile investment.
Makes you wonder what it costs for FFXVI, FFVIIR for Sony. Same publisher, so it's gotta be higher than that.
Are you seriously questioning the veracity of a seemingly ridiculous claim based on an alleged partial screen shot of someone's resume shared by some random twitter account?Obvious nonsense, which means it will become gospel on NeoGAF
What makes you think they paid for it?
That was for Microsoft Surface. It must be working out pretty well for both parties since they expanded the partnership in 2020.Remember when the XB1 was announced they boasted about a $500M partnership with the NFL. Nothing really ever came of it either. Such wasted money...
Whatever it was it's not enough, Just the promise of remake on ps4 was a console seller and we still have no news about any chance of it coming to xbox and only rumors of it being on PCi wonder how much Sony pays for FF7 remake/ ff16/ forspoken timed exclusivity O_O
As a shareholder do I care about market share or profit? I own Apple too...very low worldwide marketshare, obscene profit.Now graph out marketshare for Xbox over the same period. Its interesting that its period of peak popularity actually coincides with the lowest points on the above.
Rise was a great game. Not sure why you think it was a bad deal.Now, how much they are paying for getting games on GamePass, makes you think...
100m for fucking nothing, nice job there.