I really think they capitulated to the publishers (and I am including their own internal publishing group in this situation) pushed them into this and I wouldn't be surprised if they had direct contractual relationships related to this choice (hence the TitanFall and maybe more EA exclusives).
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Microsoft's E3 conference date is Monday, June 10th
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I really think they capitulated to the publishers (and I am including their own internal publishing group in this situation) pushed them into this and I wouldn't be surprised if they had direct contractual relationships related to this choice (hence the TitanFall and maybe more EA exclusives).
I blame Ballmer, it is very Ballmer-esque to make horrible decisions like this. I mean look at how much of the online community who had 360 as their primary system have so quickly abandoned the Xbox brand and refuse to go near it no matter what now.
Monty Mole
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I wouldn't pin it all on Mattrick. Xbox has always stuck out like a sore thumb with MS. MS isn't a gaming company, however it is a software and platform company. XB1 has been developed simply as a platform - like Windows - upon which software and services can be delivered. Gaming will be a part of that, but this time around the applications will be far more diverse.
I wouldn't be surprised if down the line, MS also offers apps like Office etc for XB1. Just get the XB1 wireless keyboard and mouse
They want this to be an "all in one" device. And TV is only the beginning.
EDIT: Basically I don't think the 3GB of RAM has all been reserved for the XB1 of today, but for the XB1 of the future.
something fishy
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If they did, and i think you are right,and Sony did not? Then they have just colluded to kill their own brand. The publishers will ditch them and go back to Sony in a flash. Such a terrible short sighted decision.
Gutted really. Was trying to stay hopeful but the constant bad press and the negativity here and everywhere has done for me. I've given up on them I think.
Oh, absolutely. I would expect that to likely be the case as well; I was talking strictly about if there are returns this Holiday season.
Yea, the doom mongering is a bit dramatic. People will go to where the games are, and MS will bring the games.
something fishy
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I wouldn't pin it all on Mattrick. Xbox has always stuck out like a sore thumb with MS. MS isn't a gaming company, however it is a software and platform company. XB1 has been developed simply as a platform - like Windows - upon which software and services can be delivered. Gaming will be a part of that, but this time around the applications will be far more diverse.
I wouldn't be surprised if down the line, MS also offers apps like Office etc for XB1. Just get the XB1 wireless keyboard and mouse
They want this to be an "all in one" device. And TV is only the beginning.
Yeah it was why Bill came into the industry really but they managed to get a really good gaming brand as a result for a while. Now they have gone backwards. Sucks.
I know I'm one of many who's shelf was full of Xbox games a few years ago and who has seen the ps3 space creep up on it, that should worry ms but they seem not to care about the customers they lost.
Maybe thy can blitz the games and blow us all away. Hope so.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Your last sentence is the one that counts. Xbox One is months away from release and one day away from it's first E3. If you can't wait for the former, at least give them the latter to see what they can bring.
Their E3 performances this last few years haven't been particularly inspiring (though neither have the competition's), but there seems to be a general mood of confidence that this year will be different. I'll give all three a chance and see if there's anything behind the talk, I think you should too.
something fishy
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True. Tomorrow is a defining day for them.
Jondoyle123
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fallout 4
Maximilian Kolbe
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Most people will not forget, dont worry
They don't need to people forget or not
I would actually like Microsoft to unveil a new RPG that would be the start of a new trilogy - kind of like what they did with Mass Effect - it would instantly get me to look forward to the new generation.
statham
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so that thread about MS invading reddit. ya.
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1fyjgr/regarding_xbox_one_and_allegations_of_voterigging/
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1fyjgr/regarding_xbox_one_and_allegations_of_voterigging/
I think a lot of the hate for XBO will die down tomorrow for two reasons. The first lots of great looking games. It will be hard to just call it the TVbox after tomorrow.
The second reason is Sony has not really made it clear what their policy changes are and I am guessing when it is finally explained in detail it will be similar to what MS is doing even if it to a lesser extent
The second reason is Sony has not really made it clear what their policy changes are and I am guessing when it is finally explained in detail it will be similar to what MS is doing even if it to a lesser extent
Jondoyle123
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oh dear
BoboBrazil
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40% of people never connected their 360 online. I'd say a large part of the mass audience won't be ok with this. I'll be watching the conference to see if they show some cool games, but I won't buy one knowing the anti consumer policies it has.
Riky
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Don't be nervous mate, I'm here by your side.
We'll get through this together.
Where I stand now, I am looking forward to new consoles. Some of the DRM and sharing stuff is concerning but still not enough to utterly put me off since it is all about the games for me. The TV is nice and all the other stuff is nice but if MS show me games I will want to buy then they make the choice for me.
Sony also have this chance, so if they show games I want to play, then I will buy the PS4 also but this is MS's chance to show off and convince people.
Sony also have this chance, so if they show games I want to play, then I will buy the PS4 also but this is MS's chance to show off and convince people.
All I hope is that MS keeps up their promises with focusing more on Europe.
They need to have much more Europe exclusive apps!
Do you know about Indie Games? Well everyone likes them and they are cool, guess what...we never got them here in Austria.
The EU policies need to change.
F*** that, EU needs to fall apart.
Every country on their own!
They need to have much more Europe exclusive apps!
Do you know about Indie Games? Well everyone likes them and they are cool, guess what...we never got them here in Austria.
The EU policies need to change.
F*** that, EU needs to fall apart.
Every country on their own!
Doesn't necessarily mean that 40% can't connect their 360. There are multiple reasons why a lot of them wouldn't, like many not paying for gold so not bothering to hook it up.
Internet connection only gets better the further we go along.
Xenon
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Obviously it's just a Microsoft cover up. They paid off all the individuals involved with their one billion dollar Xbox One war chest. Sure they they said it was for games, but this is a mind game right?
Why torture yourself and just not watch
no, no, no. It's obviously a paid Sony shill trying to rile up the internet against MS. Turn those pitchforks around boys!
I'm not being serious, in case anyone was too dim to tell
This and the fact that the 360 did not get built in wireless untill 2010 are the main reasons why a vast number of 360s are not hooked up to the internet I feel.
KefkaPalazzo
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That is really hard to tell. Microsoft has deep pockets, it's a new gen, and they've catered to publishers (Though Sony may have as well, we don't know yet)
There have been rumblings about Fallout 4, Dragon Age 3, Mirrors Edge 2 being X1 exclusive...as well a proper Banjo sequel...I think we are going to be surprised tomorrow, whatever it ends up being.
BoboBrazil
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Only 70% of PS3s have been connected to the internet so that really isn't a valid reason. I'd say many are for kids that parents don't want to give internet access to and alot of people simply don't have internet.
I'm excited for next gen and just want to see what is capable of next gen consoles in a wide variety of game genres.
Psycho_Mantis
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Bish doesn't lie. Astroturfers are nothing new to big corporations. Maybe the guy did make it up, but there being shills in forums is not a lie.
quickwhips
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I really wonder if MS is going to have more conversion of XBLA big sellers on the X1. Also I want to Devil Third Game but I know that isn't happening yet. 1 vs 100 would be amazing at the show. Day 1 should be 1 vs 100
PS3's were sold in different ranges across different regions though so it's not the perfect comparison is it.
I have a feeling when its all said and done Microsoft will change their policies abit and at least do away with the 24 hour check and make the DRM more disc based instead. I also think they will do away with the Kinect having to be plugged into the console at all times. That is my wish of course and if they do those couple of things then I can be back to fully enjoying my favorite franchises on Xbox. I'm still hyped to see the games this week that they have on offer, I just wished all this negativity wouldn't have popped up around the same time. But in the end it is Microsoft's own fault for the policies themselves and the timing of it all.
I need a Gears of War-esque trailer for Black Tusk Studio's rumored new IP. I mentioned in another tread, that trailer gave me goosebumps.
With all this connectivity and online talk, I would like to see a similar Steam Workshop store where people could simple browse user created content from games like Forza(Luvery), Halo(Forge), Banjo(Blueprints) and whichever game and download them straight off the library without having the obligation to run a separate game. This would also include screenshots, comments, ratings... Heck Microsoft as a talented software company could also implement the DVR features they announced.
BoboBrazil
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Yep, they've had negative feedback on these policies since the rumors came out about them around Sony's conference or even before. They had more after the Adam Orth thing. They ignored all of that and still did it. They even went so far and to lie and say things were misconstrued by the press after Phil Harrison admitted the policies to the media earlier than they planned causing a huge backlash and they still came out with exactly what he told the press weeks before. Microsoft simply doesn't care about the consumer at this point. It's kind of like the same situation they had with the Windows 8 start menu and button. They knew well ahead of time that people wanted the windows 7 menu and button, but they tried to force metro on people so they ignored it. Even now with Windows 8.1 coming out, it's almost like they are trolling consumers because they added a button back(which was not the problem) that just takes you to Metro.
I'm with ya on this.
something fishy
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Maximilian Kolbe
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Since they decided that,it just means that 40%(or less,or more) players doesn't matter for them anymore
something fishy
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Is a bit disgusting that people there and everywhere were firing off accusations with no proof. Thank god this isn't allowed in the normal world.
VGChampion
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I agree but I really never hear about the TVbox anymore. I think everyone is smart enough to realize games are coming.
Maximilian Kolbe
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Witch hunt
This is off-topic but actually, for many people that was the problem. It wasn't so much that they hated the new start screen, it was the fact that once they had gotten to the desktop, they had no idea how to access the start menu again. No amount of telling them that the button is still there, but just hidden, or telling them to use the Windows key on their keyboard, could fix that.
So by adding the button back in, I think the average user will actually have no problem with 8.1.
60_gig_PS3
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I'm starting to doubt whether they have anything. Why would they unveil their console with Call of Duty if they had something much better to show?
Because it's the biggest brand in gaming?
Has it been confirmed that they are starting the E3 conference with Call of Duty?
Maybe because COD is a juggernaut.
Doubt it as the game is being shown today.
To point one - why should I care how good the games look if I'm never going to buy them because of the business decisions surrounding them?
For the second, if Sony doesn't have good news to share on the DRM front, don't expect them to say anything at all until there's enough heat coming their way that they feel they have to. You're either going to hear good news from Sony tomorrow on that front or nothing at all.
no. They already announced DLC first plan and today is the official reveal of gameplay.
Maximilian Kolbe
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Then why you need to care MS E3?
So what does he mean by "unveil their console with Call of Duty?"
Did he mean the reveal? The reveal didn't have a lot of games, granted, but it had Quantum Break and Forza and four EA Sports games in addition to Call of Duty.
Personally, Forza and Quantum Break was all I needed. And I'm confident they're going to bring it with awesome games this E3.
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