DarknessTear
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If you have to log on Xbox Live, then yes that's a huge problem.
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Minecraft CEO confirms Xbox Live login on Switch, really wants Sony cross-play.
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timetokill
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Look at Minecraft on PS4, no Microsoft logo in sight.
The game was published before MS bought Minecraft.
So what obligation does MS have to give any updates to the game, when Sony is the publisher.
And? You use the same Microsoft account to log into your PC, Phone, email, etc. No different than your gmail giving you access to all of Google's services.
Huge Succeeded
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Read the Better Together thread to understand why its not quite that simple.
What about this rumor I saw?
This is nonsense...the xbox stuff is integrated into the game and wouldn't require work on nintendo's part
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
I see, thanks for the detailed explanation. I appreciate that.
Todesritter74
Member
"Please bolster my MAU #'s so I can better compete against you for marketing deals with 3rd party software companies and also give me free access to a list of your customers that I target with additional marketing efforts for future hardware/software sales from my brand."
Yep, can't see anything wrong with taking that proposal from someone...
Yep, can't see anything wrong with taking that proposal from someone...
TimeEffect
Member
Minecraft was released before MS bought it.
So it makes no sense to stop selling it. And it would be bad press for MS to pull the license. Dont expect Minecraft 2 on PS5 though
Yet it is true
test_account
XP-39C²
What does this mean? A own PC version thats not for Windows 10? A Linux/Mac version?
So MS as weaker platform holder (less players ) want to benefit from userbase on stronger platform to promote sales of their variant of a game. Stronger platform holder does not want it - is it not clear enough, why Sony wants You to buy PS4 to enjoy playing with PS4 userbase ?
I may not like it but I can perfectly understand their motives. Kids protection or not.
Some of the responses on here make we want to bash my head into a wall.
OF COURSE you need an account with MS in order for crossplay to work.
It's no different than needing an account with Psyonic to play Rocket league, or and account with SE to play final fantasy.
Who ever is hosting the servers you need an account with them. It's not evil. It's not Rocket science .
OF COURSE you need an account with MS in order for crossplay to work.
It's no different than needing an account with Psyonic to play Rocket league, or and account with SE to play final fantasy.
Who ever is hosting the servers you need an account with them. It's not evil. It's not Rocket science .
rokkerkory
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Awesome, hopefully Sony will get their act together and change their minds.
Game was out before it was bought. Seems pretty easy to understand. Can you imagine the shitstorm if it had gotten pulled after being purchased?
Because it isn't why Sony is refusing.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Just because the MS logo isn't there and the game was released on PSN prior to MS's acquisition, it's mean Sony is the publisher.
All publicly available information shows Mojang as the publisher for their games, and since they're owned by MS...
Vroadstar
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CassidyIzABeast
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I don't think this has any bearing on Sony not being game. A one time login has nothing to do with saving the children.
Ah, so Sony will block all future Minecraft releases. Good to know.
PC is Windows. Windows Phone is dead and MS care about Android/iPhone a lot more.
Gmail is owned by Google, so I don't get what you mean there? If you have a gmail account you have a Google Account. Same with Outlook.
Huge Succeeded
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Thats not how it works. MS cant and wont be harvesting user data from PSN.Your PSN data won't be sent to MC's servers at all.
LMAO! A true prophet.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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I mean, it's obviously one of the reasons.
What realistic difference would this make, beyond creating additional hoops for every other platform already using the XBL solution to jump through?
You would still need to create a new account, and that account would still go directly to MS... only now the update will spring up on my Xbox, and my Android phone and everywhere else telling me I need to create yet another account to continue playing Minecraft online with others... just because Sony says so.
It doesn't "half explain" why other F2P MMOs aren't crossplay. It fully explains it. The same situation was met by DCUO. The only difference is that other MMOs are willing to host Xbox servers in order to have an Xbox port. Square isn't willing to do that with FFXIV.
Then why does Sony allow Minecraft at al??
Guys, stop making excuses for Sony. It's not a good look.
Furthermore, we shouldn't have to be even speculating about this. If Sony cared at all, they would just come clean and tell their fans why. We shouldn't have to come up with all sorts of theories and reasons to absolve Sony of any blame in this matter.
We are not Sony's PR.
smh
LordRaptor
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Uhhhh... what?
Nintendo have a paid online subscription service and their own multiplayer systems for things like Nintendo specific userIDs friendslists and messaging / notifications.
There is obviously some work to be done to integrate that with another service that does not track nintendo customers.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Vice versa then? Stop speaking for Microsoft and claiming this is the reason it's not happening. Third-party systems are different, it's the DIRECT COMPETITOR'S system is what the issue is. And the financial benefit. And the idea of promoting XBL while folks pay for PSN. And the idea of some of terms and agreements that both sides have that cannot be resolved.
Maybe the best answer is misdirection. As garbage as this scenario is, I don't think gamers complaining will fix it. It's the developers' choice to complain and it's competitor's choice to complain, and it's the financial benefactor's choice to complain.
The only one to gain MAU's and other financial gain from this is the one in second and third place, never the one in first place. You're right though about quite a few things, but I have a feeling that our energy is being wasted.
It's an account system, for a direct competitor. Never in a million years would we see PSN account logins on Xbox. Never.
Was on their platforms before MS bought (not sure about Vita though) it. It's why Sony published them.
dragonelite
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I could see Microsoft give Nintendo access to live functionality with a requirement that their version of live runs on azure.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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I stand corrected. Thanks for providing the source.
So?
What about this rumor I saw?
We can hope. Ideally I'd like to see Switch have an OS-level ability to link your account to Steam, Origin, Uplay, XBL, etc., and allow games to link to friends lists in each of them for cross-platform play as required. Rocket League could allow PC/Switch friends cross-play if they bring in Steam accounts, for example.
And this is the definition of "Arrogant Sony". We are there market leader so fuck off.
Huge Succeeded
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Fans have decided that that explaination is lacking
So they've substituted their own
Kaz must be proud
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Why the hell should they?
You don't need any extra account to play RL outside your platform of choice you game on.
Extra accounts are only needed for in things like supports friends list, parties, DLC/game tracking etc across platforms. For the basic benefit of bigger player pools it's not needed.
Edit -
Not strictly correct with RL there is an additional account but this is not created by the user - https://mobile.twitter.com/rocketleague/status/627760853450817537?lang=en
http://rocketleague.wikia.com/wiki/Cross-platform_play
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Because Minecraft was not Microsoft's game when it was being made. Because Minecraft is a mega-hit that every hardware maker wanted on their hardware to sell the hardware to younger generation. Because it's the very reason Microsoft bought Minecraft.
We are going in circles.
Stop pretending you don't know the answer to this. It's not a good look.
I wouldn't think so?
Any integration would be done in Minecraft by MS surely. Why would Nintendo have to do any dev work on their system?
so how do you propose you manage crossplay on a microsoft server?
remember... you need to be able to link accounts as there ARE children involved
Todesritter74
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Your MS account will be tied to a PS program inbound request.... how hard is that?
GHG
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Minecraft existed on the PS4 before long before MS bought the game. Also, these seem like solid enough reasons to me:
I think it would be the same if it were the other way round.
Nintendo is seperate to all of this because they complete in their own little space, hence the lack of crossover between the respective libraries.
None of this excuses Rocket League however.
Logically, I doubt it. There is Rocket League, which has none of these issues. "one of the reasons" means nothing if it isn't the decider.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
i understand why sony said f off
Buggy Loop
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But it's fine with Square Enix having their fucking shit account system to play FFXIV? I have been skipping PS4 & Xbox one this gen but, last gen there was also Ubisoft account, EA account.. probably forgetting a few.
Those are fine?
Those are fine?