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Modern Warfare Remaster requires Infinity Warfare disc to play
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brokenbeans
Banned
Yes I'm starting to think MW2 will be next.
Not sure when though, I'm more than happy to play MWR for the foreseeable future.
Portugeezer
Member
To be expected, kind of like ODST and Halo beta. But it's annoying, what if I want to play FF15 disc then quickly play some MW Remaster? Gotta put in an IW disc...
It sucks, not just because you can't sell IW, but just for convenience...
At this point I will wait for MW Remaster to be sold separately.
It sucks, not just because you can't sell IW, but just for convenience...
At this point I will wait for MW Remaster to be sold separately.
That's not true. Advanced warfare whent under $40 a few months after it came out at certain places.
Lord Frieza
Member
Not surprising, but it doesn't affect me anyway.
TheGreyHulk
Member
This sucks. They're just keeping the base smaller by tying this game to the higher tiered sku.
Release this shit separately to maximize the user base u bastards.
I really dont want IW at all. Just cod4.
Ill have to wait and hope for the standalone release after the holidays.
Release this shit separately to maximize the user base u bastards.
I really dont want IW at all. Just cod4.
Ill have to wait and hope for the standalone release after the holidays.
brunomartynhak
Member
This was obvious.
I can't wait for this cod4 thing go away and leave cod with people that are actually currently following the franchise.
And yes, at some point it will be sold separately.
I can't wait for this cod4 thing go away and leave cod with people that are actually currently following the franchise.
And yes, at some point it will be sold separately.
prag16
Banned
This. Don't understand why so many people seemed to be expecting otherwise. Seems fairly obvious.
Mechanized
Member
Word. Cod 4 is readily playable on PC right now with tons of people online and could probs run on a toaster.
But hey, it's helping to fund the current games so I can't really complain too much.
OrbitalBeard
Member
I've been saying this since the day MW Remastered was announced. No one should be surprised this is the way Activision is handling it.
Chobel
Member
Eh, it sounds like something standard. This has less to do with forcing you to buy IW, and more with making sure you didn't get the game for free by borrowing the disk.
I'm not, but that's entirely different subject.
I'm not, but that's entirely different subject.
There's a difference between defending and understanding why they did it. There isn't many people defending it just people acknowleding why they did it.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Considering CoD is an annual franchise, this method was probably the only way Activision felt comfortable greenlighting a remaster. They have no real incentive to do so otherwise.
It's completely understandable why they handled it this way. The remaster is probably going to be available separately sometime next year anyway.
The Legacy Edition that includes MW is $80. They'll sell far more by doing it this way. Many who would have never purchased IW will now spend $80 instead of the $40 or $50 MW would have been priced at separately.
COD IW is gonna sell more then just about every game that comes out this year, selling MWR stand alone is not gonna hurt it at all. Which is why its dumb to lock the game behind IW.
They will make way more money selling both stand alone, which is why it doesnt make any sense to lock the game behind IW
Well I mean you can't trade in your digital copy, so it shouldn't require that.
Excuse you?
, please don't let this be a new trend with devs now, once one Dev starts something it always seems to cause a chain reaction in some way.Old Gimlet Eyes
Member
I'm sure activisions accountants have done the math more so than you have. They will clean up with everyone buying IW/remaster for the holidays. Then maybe release it stand alone some time next year and make even more money.
Chobel
Member
Maybe I'm wrong, but this thread is not about selling the games separately. We established that the two games can only be bought together in one package, so we're discussing whether it's ok to allow downloading and playing CoD 4 remaster to be played without the disk.
brokenbeans
Banned
Oh yay bring on Black Ops 7 no boots will touch the ground edition.
MWR is needed because people want the franchise to go back to it roots yes I would like a fresh approach but I'll take what I can get at this point.
AstroNut325
Member
I'm not seeing the big deal of this... I'll have to put the disc in for any game as it is.
Preach - although after last year's nonsensical Black Ops 3 SP campaign this was a given. I'll wait a year or two for the separate MWR download.
CouchMaster
Member
Bioshock collection also comes on 2 blu ray disks.
TheSpecialOne
Banned
A lot of self important entitled folks whining as if they have a right to have things their way. Obviously this was expected and most sensible people saw this from a mile off. Still purchasing as IW's campaign looks interesting.
Bolivar687
Banned
We want to sell the IW disc.
orichalcos
Member
Dont care. I bought the Digital Deluxe Edition. 
Something tells me no.
I mean, it's not like a person can return half a digital order. No reason to have the same system in place.
Uh... A code in the box obviously.
Anyway, lol Activision guess I'm not getting the Legacy edition of Infinite Warfare and selling it
Dammit
Lord Frieza
Member
It's not been clarified, but probably not, since you can't trade-in a digital copy like you could a disc, which this is clearly designed to combat.
I have Destiny on digital and bought the disc for 20 bucks on January, it was sealed and had the codes, got the expansions and then sold the disc for 10.
Difference is, that's an expansion, CODMWR is a complete game separate from IW but tied to that game so we can't sell or trade the new entry.
GabeTheGrouch76
Member
The IW disc being required to play MWR doesn't really surprise me, given it's Activision we're talking about here. But MWR not coming on the disc itself sounds pretty lame. Unless you're buying the game digitally, both games should be available on the disc IMO. Having MWR require a separate download code sounds like a really contrived way to force people to play/access the game as they see fit. As someone mentioned a while back, its virtually akin to last generation's notorious online passes.
KeyboardThug
Member
Same, I don't want to support this even though it is one of my favorite games. If they don't get the sales they want they will release it separately.
So if the series has to go back to its roots, then it's a CoD remake we need, you know, the WW2 games (aka Medal of Honor 7)
I think Call of Duty is kind of a unique case.
Most remasters aren't for annualized franchises, and most remasters don't have multiplayer. COD is also a uniquely big franchise in console games. The whole COD business model is built on having one game suck up all the air in the room for 12 months. That doesn't really leave any room for a remaster or in this case a full remake of a previous game, much less one that has its own multiplayer service to keep up.
This is the same reason EA doesn't do remasters: it's not that conducive to the games-as-a-service model. That model depends on customers constantly moving to the next game which is usually some kind of continual living service. Remasters are more conducive to the old hit-driven way of game development where each game is a singular story, like a movie being remastered on Blu-Ray. Remasters only work into the games-as-a-service model if you make the remaster a thing attached to the service. In fact, this is analogous to the only times in the past EA has done remasters: when it packaged an HD version of Medal of Honor Frontline with the 2010 game, and when it packaged an HD version of Dead Space Extraction with the PS3 version of Dead Space 2. Both were eventually released on their own. Modern Warfare Remastered is simply being rolled into the overall COD service. I wouldn't be surprised if a Mass Effect trilogy remaster was somehow attached to Andromeda.
The other elephant in the room is that in the eyes of many people, no COD game released in the last nine years is indisputably better than COD4. For a lot of people a new version of COD4 is probably the ideal COD game they could just keep playing forever. That's why in my previous post in this thread I compared it to how Valve has handled Team Fortress 2 which was released around the same time.
Activision's mistake is that it is trying to do games-as-a-service and the hit-driven model at the same time. It's only allowed to do it because of COD's immense popularity.
It would certainly be a separate disc. IW is probably already taking up all or almost all of that Blu-Ray, and so far no publisher has dropped the money to manufacture a 2-Blu-Ray game. It's the same reason physical copies of Master Chief Collection require 20gigs of patches -- the multiplayer takes up so much data it really should have had its own disc.
Should be noted that the FAQ page for Modern Warfare: Remastered has been further updated, officially confirming it rather than just the small legal tidbit.
http://charlieintel.com/2016/10/01/...ite-suggests-iw-disc-might-required-play-mwr/
Interesting. The Xbox One version DOES contain MWR on the disc but not the PS4 version.
Also, you DO need Infinite Warfare installed to play the digital version of MWR, even if you own IW digital. Now that is a step too far in my opinion. That's pretty bullshit.
http://charlieintel.com/2016/10/01/...ite-suggests-iw-disc-might-required-play-mwr/
Interesting. The Xbox One version DOES contain MWR on the disc but not the PS4 version.
Also, you DO need Infinite Warfare installed to play the digital version of MWR, even if you own IW digital. Now that is a step too far in my opinion. That's pretty bullshit.
Thats odd, wonder why?
TheSpecialOne
Banned
The entitlement in this post is disgusting. Your desire to purchase the game is born out of a pure selfish desire and you expect activision to put your interests ahead of theirs? What a horrible double standard. This was expected and if you didn't expect it, then you managed to delude yourself.