Callibretto
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they pick a super niche jrpg. I just couldn't get into this first person dungeon games
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MonkeyPaw Games Is Starting A Kickstarter For A Class Of Heroes 2 EN Physical Release
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That's because it's not really a JRPG. It's old school WRPG at heart.
I'm definitely looking forward to this because I loved the first one but I'm still not on board with supporting stuff with Kickstarter since I don't really want to sign up for Amazon payments, so will buy it when it comes out.
It will be live at midnight PST.
I suspect most of the games in japan that would need kickstarter to happen are pretty much all going to be Niche to a point. I know many would rather something like VC3, or Tales of, etc, but with those being owned by the big boys (and Namco not wanting to share Tales games) I suspect that if they saw a kickstarter succeed for the game they would just do it themselves at that point.
What I meant was, what day did you actually submit it to them for approval. I'm interested in using Kickstarter myself and am curious.
Joe Molotov
Member
Don't want it and couldn't play it even if I did on my Vita. But feel free to accept the $20 I spent on Miami Law as my donation.
No, we won't kickstart a rebuilding of the Titanic.
I'm sorry to inform you that Kickstarting the completion of Versus XIII is going to be really hard. But I will support you!
Ours was a special case because we did the original KS submission under the old rules where you did the proposal and submitted for approval BEFORE you could make a project, then could launch at will. However, because we were delayed almost a month because of the approval process for the parties that needed to clear this, the rules changed at KS and now you make the project and submit for approval AFTER it's ready. As a result, our second time went much faster than the first, since it was essentially the same thing as before.
I would plan for 1-4 days to hear back and you should be good.
DeliciousDoc
Member
While I really enjoyed WD's rpgs and big packages back in the day (have all the 120 dollar ones) I also think this was a poor choice (but then I don't like the genre).
If you are looking at acquire titles, I think something like Akiba's trip or the later class of heroes on ps3 would be a better idea. Just having something about Akihabara and that is "Japan wacky" should cover basic costs, IMO. Your company could also improve the controls, making it much better than the original. You will have the haters and white knights doing your publicity for you as opposed to a genre like dungeon exploration where people who aren't into those games don't even care enough to hate.
I like my psp but I just bought a vita, waiting for the floodgate of releases to come and if you look at the release schedule for anywhere outside Japan the psp is terrible.
If you are looking at acquire titles, I think something like Akiba's trip or the later class of heroes on ps3 would be a better idea. Just having something about Akihabara and that is "Japan wacky" should cover basic costs, IMO. Your company could also improve the controls, making it much better than the original. You will have the haters and white knights doing your publicity for you as opposed to a genre like dungeon exploration where people who aren't into those games don't even care enough to hate.
I like my psp but I just bought a vita, waiting for the floodgate of releases to come and if you look at the release schedule for anywhere outside Japan the psp is terrible.
ElectricThunder
Member
Ah, there was much pining, impressions, and/or good times in the old Class of Heroes 1/2/beyond thread here on GAF quite a good ways back when it first came out.
I wish this initiative well, as my PSP certainly could stand to see more reason to get use as well for this being a worthy vector to attack in general on the localization front while hoping roughly comparable also emerges on the PC/DD front.
That said, damn it all I need more money in a big way if I'm ever going to get to be a part of this damned Kickstarter craze!
I wish this initiative well, as my PSP certainly could stand to see more reason to get use as well for this being a worthy vector to attack in general on the localization front while hoping roughly comparable also emerges on the PC/DD front.
That said, damn it all I need more money in a big way if I'm ever going to get to be a part of this damned Kickstarter craze!
AtomskEater
Member
That's what happens with kickstarters already? Backers get whatever rewards they signed up for and the company gets whatever profit they make from additional copies sold.
And this isn't for the localization, it's for physical copies/collector's editions.
PixyJunket
Member
I love me some first-person dungeon crawls, but for some reason I'm thinking this is an odd game to pick to test these waters with.
Also, I think it's an odd choice that the Kisckstarter is purely for physical goods and not simply to support localizations for obscure JRPG products.
Also, I think it's an odd choice that the Kisckstarter is purely for physical goods and not simply to support localizations for obscure JRPG products.
chickdigger802
Banned
Something more moe + a body pillow as a reward.
Being a fan of Working Designs old games and Class of Heroes 1, I was pretty excited to see this news. I'd love to play the sequel in English.
I would be very surprised if this kickstarter were to hit $500,000 though. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
I would be very surprised if this kickstarter were to hit $500,000 though. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Yeah, no. I'll put my money where I want to put it, and I'd rather pay for something like Class of Heroes 2 than many of the "great" games so many others do. Many of them just aren't my thing, and I appreciate having the opportunity to give my money to a project like this instead. And if it means more "crappy games" that I'd prefer to play then I'm all for it.
I'm in.
Phoenix_Apollo
Member
I never played the first Class of Heroes and to be honest, first person dungeon crawlers aren't really my thing, but I would buy a PSP copy and a PS3 one if this Kickstarter goes through. If it means that the Working Designs empire might come back and give Xseed a run for its money, I think it's worth double dipping. For me, at least.
Personally, I vastly prefer retail to DD and I'd like for both options to continue co-existing as long as possible. Plus, with this Kickstarter, it might mean that the PSP might live on for a while, and that's something I genuinely want to happen. I don't really see myself getting a Vita or 3DS any time soon, and I believe in letting consoles last as long as possible, so it's a godsend for me.
I mean, if it can at least hold on long enough for the last two Trails in the Sky games to make it here at retail, that would be simply amazing. I want that to happen.
Personally, I vastly prefer retail to DD and I'd like for both options to continue co-existing as long as possible. Plus, with this Kickstarter, it might mean that the PSP might live on for a while, and that's something I genuinely want to happen. I don't really see myself getting a Vita or 3DS any time soon, and I believe in letting consoles last as long as possible, so it's a godsend for me.
I mean, if it can at least hold on long enough for the last two Trails in the Sky games to make it here at retail, that would be simply amazing. I want that to happen.
It's not *just* for the Deluxe Pack, that's the misconception. It's a large focus, but not the only one. The first three reward tiers are specifcally for those that want to buy it on DD when it's done, but want to support the project and allow us more budget to do a more top-to-bottom localization like you would see in the WD days (improved controls, shortcuts, extra saves, expanded voice work, etc, etc). DD supporters of the first three tiers is just as important as the tiers above.
No? Vic said it's for the DD version too... Post just above this one.
Pureauthor
Member
I mean, presumably they plan to use the money (if they can raise it) to actually improve the quality of localization itself as well. That's a good thing.
ULTROS!
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I love JRPGs too but I haven't really tried Class of Heroes so I'm not sure if I'll support it.
I wonder if there are others games that MonkeyPaw are planning to kickstart localize...
I wonder if there are others games that MonkeyPaw are planning to kickstart localize...
Pureauthor
Member
Check the kotaku link. They said they have a whole slew. Whether or not it actually comes to pass... well.
AtomskEater
Member
I stand corrected then, but what's wrong with companies profiting from the games they release? It's not like people who back the projects don't know they're not getting a share of the company.
I'm only slightly annoyed that loving JRPGs is being put on the back of what's essentially an old-school Wizardry clone with cute anime characters. But, the first game did have its merits, it was just a bit too hardcore and too light on story. If the second game has more story I'll be more interested. I'm backing it anyway (when I get paid, lol), assuming the deluxe edition pricing isn't completely nuts. It is unfortunate we can't get a download code without significant extra cost, since I would like to have more stuff to play on my Vita.
The good news is if this fails miserably, we can still use it to beat on the seemingly endless throngs of fans that complain about lack of a physical version whenever a niche PSP game gets announced for localization.
The good news is if this fails miserably, we can still use it to beat on the seemingly endless throngs of fans that complain about lack of a physical version whenever a niche PSP game gets announced for localization.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Why?
distantmantra
Member
PHYSICAL MEDIA
FUCK YEAH!!!
All over the PS3 version.
FUCK YEAH!!!
All over the PS3 version.
RyougaSaotome
Member
Can't say I cared for any of the Class of Heroes games. 2 is an improvement over 1, but it still didn't strike me as anything special. I think there are other niche titles that deserved to be brought over instead of this, but oh well.
I'll pass on this one.
I'll pass on this one.
because he didn't think of it first.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Yeah, really odd choice, maybe they got a really good deal on it or something?
OfWhiteSkinOnRedLeather
Member
Definitely want Valkyria 3 over anything else PSP.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I think he mentioned here or in the other thread that right now, a lot of Japanese companies are a little apprehensive about giving the go ahead because they don't have a precedent to use as a reference, and Acquire was the company that decided to take a chance. If this Kickstarter works out for MonkeyPaw and Gaijinworks, Vic can assure other Japanese publishers that this is a viable business model to help them earn extra income on some games that at this point wouldn't be localized otherwise (like PSP games, or games that have been in Japan for 3+ years with no localization).
To me this is more about setting a precedent that this is a viable way to get games to American that never ever would otherwise (as I mentioned before, PSP games, or games that have lingered in Japan for years now).
I also misread the thread. I also would love to play that game.
Pureauthor
Member
At the same time, there's something to be said for starting strong. I seriously doubt Carpe Fulgur would have as much Nerd Cred right now if their first project was Chantelise instead of Recettear. But that one good game to start with got them a lot of goodwill.
They have to prove that there is interest in the first place, they do that and more will be willing to allow Monkeypaw to do the localizations. It seems like they chose what they could get their hands on honestly.
Anyone honestly expecting Sega to allow VC3 done by another studio is daydreaming, same goes with Namco and the Tales of games.
I'm going to have to pick up Class of heroes so that I can see how it holds up, I'm a big fan of Wizardy games, and FP dungeon crawler RPGs. So unless this is just terrible from a design standpoint I can't imagine it's as bad as some here are making it seem. I could be wrong though.
Take my money! Also, where's the Lunar 3 kickstarter?
Probably in line with the Skies of Arcadia 2, and XenoGears 2 kickstarters.
It really sounds like we're better off not seeing that. I'll just take Trails in the Sky as my replacement.Take my money!
Also, where's the Lunar 3 kickstarter?
cj_iwakura
Member
Badass. Not what I expected, to be honest... but nice, all the same.