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[Gono]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=812155

Holy mother of Shang Tsung.

Cancelled?

 

[Jaeger]

That always brings a tear to my eye. Speaking of MUGEN, can't wait until this project comes out;

 

[baphomet]

God, that new Kitana was so good looking.

Sucks they didn't go through with the upgrades.

 

[Carnby]

MK2 by far. So many quarters spent.

I hardly touched MK3, something about the art style turned me off.

And the fatalities.
And the dial combos.
And the Shao Kahn death sequence.
And the music.
And the Anamalites.

Everything about MK3 was inferior.

 

[mreddie]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=812155

Dammit, WB got lazy.

 

[Nosgotham]

i prefer mk4

 

[Skynet87]

Looking at the screen for MK3, there was no scorpion? I loved this game but I didn't even realize till now that there was no scorpion.

 

[Man God]

Only game with a more hated replacement cast than MK3 is SF3.

 

[vatstep]

Looking at the screen for MK3, there was no scorpion? I loved this game but I didn't even realize till now that there was no scorpion.

Yeah, but he was in UMK3. I'm pretty sure that was the plan from the beginning.

 

[Maligna]

i prefer mk4

I really liked certain things about MK4. Such as breaking limbs, even though the damage wasn't permanent.

 

[dcx4610]

I still enjoyed MK3 but it kinda jumped the shark. Way too many characters, palette swaps, goofy Fatalities and a silly story.

MK2 had excellent gameplay but I thought that one too got too silly. I'm a firm supporter of MK1 and it's rip off of Enter the Dragon. I liked seeing actual humans and ninjas with a bit of camp added in. All of the Outworld stuff ruined the series to me.

 

[Man God]

Yeah, but he was in UMK3. I'm pretty sure that was the plan from the beginning.

Nope, the plan from the beginning was that they needed to hire a new cast of Mo-cap actors because they reneged on a verbal agreement to pay them better royalties on MK1 and 2 when those became gigantic.

 

[nikos]

MK2 was the best one IMO. I believe it came out when I was living in Greece, and I had to import it from the U.S. as a 10 year old.

 

[FLAguy954]

MK2 has better stages and atmosphere. And fatalities. MK3 (UMK3) has better gameplay.

This.

Also, I had a blast with Trilogy, I didn't really care that it was imbalanced (and judging by this thread, I doubt I am the only one).

 

[Octopus has no friends]

I love MK2 atmosphere and general art design in the stages but MK3 was much more fun to play thanks to the run button and crazy combos and it had Cyber Smoke

 

[vatstep]

Nope, the plan from the beginning was that they needed to hire a new cast of Mo-cap actors because they reneged on a verbal agreement to pay them better royalties on MK1 and 2 when those became gigantic.

But does this really mean that they couldn't have Scorpion – a guy who wears a mask to begin with – in the original release of the game if they really wanted to?

 

[dab0ne]

Loved 2 hated 3

 

[Manu]

https://youtu.be/TI-OoTD57YI

These sort of custom combos is why I prefer 2 to 3 and dial in combos. Some creative thinking to make combos instead of connecting strings.

Wow.

I've been playing MK2 for 20 years and had no idea these kind of combos were possible.

 

[Man God]

But does this really mean that they couldn't have Scorpion – a guy who wears a mask to begin with – in the original release of the game if they really wanted to?

Who knows? It's clear they wanted a clean break. Maybe they were worried about a lawsuit, stranger things have happened.

 

[Zolbrod]

I put lots of hours into 1 and 2, but I just hated the look and feel of 3.
Never looked back at the series until 9, which was fantastic.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Aesthetically, the cyborgs were far inferior to the regular ninjas. And Sub Zero's new costume in MK3 was terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible imo. The standard ninja SZ and Scorpion have always been the best.

 

[Sephzilla]

MK3's roster is so inferior to MK2's that it's not even funny

 

[DrFunk]

MK2: better music, fatalities, mystery, aesthetics, and better pit fatalities

Edit: even the pain screams are better in MK2. God MK3 was bad

 

[Mr. Pointy]

MK2

When MK3 came out we were all hyped as FUCK. I played the shit out of it on SNES, but it just want as good.

 

[10k]

MK2 had ninja Reptile. All other options are therefore invalid.

 

[Aeriscloud]

Wow thats even worse than if there was no scorpion in the game. Was scorpion not in vanilla MK3?

Maybe they didn't want to include the worst ninja.

 

[njean777]

Prefer MK2 over 3, getting rid of scorpion was not cool.

 

[Bog]

MK2 is just plain amazing. MK3 was fine, and exciting, when it was fresh and new, but MK2 still holds up. So much more strategy when you're not just running and dialing combos.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

MK2 had ninja Reptile. All other options are therefore invalid.

Turning reptile into an actual lizard monster is also a terrible decision, ugh.

 

[MikeMyers]

MK3 didn't even have Scorpion.

MK2 wins.

 

[LowSignal]

I just remember buying MK3 and then finding out that MK3 ultimate was coming out soon after...

 

[CuthbertAllgoodz]

It was simply a much more cohesive game. It also had better secrets. I remember the first time I saw a friendship - it kind of blew my mind lol.

Oh yea! I remember clearly the first time I saw one. My friend and me freaked out and spent the rest of the afternoon losing against the cpu hoping to see another one. It was Shang Tsung's rainbow.

 

[Jaeger]

Turning reptile into an actual lizard monster is also a terrible decision, ugh.

His MKX designs (his Tournament alt in particular) is awesome. There's only so many identical rainbow ninjas I can stomach at one time at least.

 

[Creaking]

His MKX designs (his Tournament alt in particular) is awesome. There's only so many identical rainbow ninjas I can stomach at one time at least.

His face model looks absolutely horrendous though.

 

[synce]

UMK3>MK2>MK3

Was gonna type the exact same thing

 

[Memorabilia]

I have the Arcade Kollection on 360. Played/finished MK1 in a reasonable time frame. MK2? Nope. That bullshit game can take a long walk off a short pier. The AI is an absolute joke. Its one game that needs to be less "arcade perfect" to actually be any fun in SP mode. Im guessing when most people say MK2 is great they have to be talking about PvP because the SP is the very definition of un-fun. The only way to beat opponents past the 6th or 7th Kombatant in SP mode is to cheese a certain pattern of flying/summersault kicks over & over. Sucks balls. Played it recently, got to the final boss, lost what seemed like 1000 times & said F this, life is too short.

Is the SP in MK3 any better or is it the same BS designed to suck quarters out of pockets at the arcade by making the AI impossible?

 

[Emperor Bohe]

Why aren't we comparing mk2 to umk3? UMK3 is better gameplay wise, but I'm better at MK2 so I personally like the game better haha (I used to play MK2 somewhat competitively). MK2 has superior character designs too, but gameplay is what matters so UMK3 got it beat. MK2 was broken as fuck, Jax and Mileena dominated that game and no one else came close.

MK2 has better stages and atmosphere. And fatalities. MK3 (UMK3) has better gameplay.

Yep. Once again I'll admit that I personally prefer MK2 (was never good at UMK3), but UMK3 is a way better game when you're talking about straight up competitive gameplay.

Also, Trilogy is a broken mess. Stay away.

 

[The Main Event]

MK2 has better stages and atmosphere. And fatalities. MK3 (UMK3) has better gameplay.

God no. Dial-up combos and the RUN BUTTON ruined everything.

MK2 is still king to this day. Shame about the cancelled remake.

 

[Valkrai]

I have the Arcade Kollection on 360. Played/finished MK1 in a reasonable time frame. MK2? Nope. That bullshit game can take a long walk off a short pier. The AI is an absolute joke. Its one game that needs to be less "arcade perfect" to actually be any fun in SP mode. Im guessing when most people say MK2 is great they have to be talking about PvP because the SP is the very definition of un-fun. The only way to beat opponents past the 6th or 7th Kombatant in SP mode is to cheese a certain pattern of flying/summersault kicks over & over. Sucks balls. Played it recently, got to the final boss, lost what seemed like 1000 times & said F this, life is too short.

Is the SP in MK3 any better or is it the same BS designed to suck quarters out of pockets at the arcade by making the AI impossible?

IMO it's even worse than MK2. The bullshit starts at the third enemy and gets even more frustrating. Good luck beating Shao Kahn, he can fuck right off.

 

[Lord_Balkan]

I have the Arcade Kollection on 360. Played/finished MK1 in a reasonable time frame. MK2? Nope. That bullshit game can take a long walk off a short pier. The AI is an absolute joke. Its one game that needs to be less "arcade perfect" to actually be any fun in SP mode. Im guessing when most people say MK2 is great they have to be talking about PvP because the SP is the very definition of un-fun. The only way to beat opponents past the 6th or 7th Kombatant in SP mode is to cheese a certain pattern of flying/summersault kicks over & over. Sucks balls. Played it recently, got to the final boss, lost what seemed like 1000 times & said F this, life is too short.

Is the SP in MK3 any better or is it the same BS designed to suck quarters out of pockets at the arcade by making the AI impossible?

If you get to Shao Kahn in MK2, just pick Mileena and keep doing the teleport kick continuously. Fight Cheese with cheese.

And yeah, I think the MK3/UMK3 AI is worse.

 

[Emperor Bohe]

Jade in UMK3 has the most cheap a.I. ever

 

[Memorabilia]

IMO it's even worse than MK2. The bullshit starts at the third enemy and gets even more frustrating. Good luck beating Shao Kahn, he can fuck right off.

Lol I was afraid of that.

If you get to Shao Kahn in MK2, just pick Mileena and keep doing the teleport kick continuously. Fight Cheese with cheese.

And yeah, I think the MK3/UMK3 AI is worse.

Thanks, I'll give that a shot. Mileena, my dear, get ready.

Side Note: Was the SP mode on any of the console versions actually playable/fun? I seem to remember playing MK 1 &/or MK2 on a buddy's SNES & we had a good time playing against the CPU, not just each other. But maybe my memory is playing tricks on me....

 

[Jaeger]

His face model looks absolutely horrendous though.

I actually really like that.

 

[Creaking]

Side Note: Was the SP mode on any of the console versions actually playable/fun? I seem to remember playing MK 1 &/or MK2 on a buddy's SNES & we had a good time playing against the CPU, not just each other. But maybe my memory is playing tricks on me....

I got the PS1 classic version of MK2 on PS3. AI was horrible and vicious. Turned me off of the game entirely.

I actually really like that.

Huh. To each his or her own, I suppose. Personally I'd rank his MKX face even lower than his dopey MK4 face.

 

[Phat Michael]

MK2 was the better game but both were so damn good. That sound when you put your coin in and start to select your character. I also love the dial-a-combo's for whatever reason. The music was fantastic in 3 as well.

 

[Jaeger]

Huh. To each his or her own, I suppose. Personally I'd rank his MKX face even lower than his dopey MK4 face.

Yuck! We will just have to disagree there. That was his worst design hands down. Top to bottom.

 

[Creaking]

Tuck! We will just have to disagree there. That was his worst design hands down. Top to bottom.

Agh, you're right. I'd rank his MKX face just above his dopey MK4 face.

 

[Jaeger]

Agh, you're right. I'd rank his MKX face just above his dopey MK4 face.

Let me ask you this. If MKX Reptile was like a horror film villain or fantasy film character, would you dislike the design still? Same storyline. Ancient lizard man race who fights in Mortal Kombat tournaments to the death.

 

[InfiniteCombo]

No Scorpion and no Raiden automatically make OG MK3 the inferior game. Fatalities were also better in MK2.

But man, single player in MK2 is broken. Anything after the 3rd CPU opponent and you stand no chance...

 

[KingJ2002]

MK2 easily... I hated MK3 until Ultimate... and even then... nothing could capture the magic MK2 brought until MK9 was released.