CrispyBoar
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I would certainly like to know, considering that they always had shallow gameplay until MK 9.
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Mortal Kombat vs Street Fighter, why is MK more popular in the US?
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cireza
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As someone who likes to play Fighting Games alone (against the computer), it is pretty obvious that Mortal Kombat is much better than Street Fighter. There is a ton of things to unlock, and a lot of fun to be had.
Virtua Fighter 5 on PS360 also had an amazing offline mode where you would navigate between arcades and play against "fake opponents", with very different AIs. This was very impressive.
Dead or Alive 5 is also very "single player" friendly. I love to put everything random (characters and stages) and do many quick fights agaist the AI. About the AI, Dead or Alive really shines in the hardest modes, it is very smart without giving the feeling that it is cheating. That's not really the case of MK however lol.
Virtua Fighter 5 on PS360 also had an amazing offline mode where you would navigate between arcades and play against "fake opponents", with very different AIs. This was very impressive.
Dead or Alive 5 is also very "single player" friendly. I love to put everything random (characters and stages) and do many quick fights agaist the AI. About the AI, Dead or Alive really shines in the hardest modes, it is very smart without giving the feeling that it is cheating. That's not really the case of MK however lol.
cantthink9
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After trying to play SSF4 it just seems like I'm better at button mashing in MKX than SF4. Seriously I suck and that makes me said cause SF5 looks sick.
NeonZ
Member
Mortal Kombat had a fairly cartoony (although still dark) art direction during the PS2 gen though. And, in spite of those games being considered trash by the competitive community, they still sold fairly well.
When I was younger I played SF and MK. As a kid, MK's photos of people as characters and over-the-top silliness won me over. Then I discovered that you can do special moves by entering "cheat codes" and I was hooked.
I love street fighter, but I'm much worse at it. MKX is a perfect MK from a gameplay standpoint. I prefer MK since I can choose what version of a character I like, and I get a pool of moves based on that, instead of having literally /everything/ at my disposal. I like that splitting each character into 3 keeps the combos pretty accessible and allows for lots of variation
I love street fighter, but I'm much worse at it. MKX is a perfect MK from a gameplay standpoint. I prefer MK since I can choose what version of a character I like, and I get a pool of moves based on that, instead of having literally /everything/ at my disposal. I like that splitting each character into 3 keeps the combos pretty accessible and allows for lots of variation
Ivan Amiibo
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that's nice that I triggered your inner fanboy, but none of that has anything to do with what I was responding to. Tekken 6 was a disaster for namco, hideously over shipped.
....wat
this thread is dumb
CrispyBoar
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If so, then why are most SF games like Super Turbo, Alpha 2, Alpha 3 Upper, 3rd Strike, & USF IV still being played to this day, especially around the world while most MK games aren't?
Cyber Caesar
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Why is MK more popular on planet Earth? Someone fix this damn thread title. I hate it.
PetulantChild
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Because Street Fighter characters are really bland. Or at least that's how I feel about it. MK may be a worse fighter but nothing about Street Fighter is visually interesting. So many of the SF characters are just "Person from X country" with nothing really interesting about them.
I seriously hope I do not live to see this crossover happen.
do you like not fun?
ãInaba Residentã
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Probably because the two series don't mix well at all on any level.
yurinka
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Counting its different editions, SFIV sold 8.1M+ copies as stated before in the thread, without counting the PS4 version.
SFV won't have these editions and will be crossplay, which means its community won't be segregated, will be a single one. That helps to the engagement and growth, specially like as it's the case, fueled by a better planned content update schedule and a more "casual" friendly gameplay and general focus.
Even considering it won't be released on Xbox, I'm pretty sure SFV will sell more copies than the different SFIV versions combined and if not, more than 5M copies. In addition to that, I'm pretty sure SFV will get more money from DLC/microtransactions than SFIV.
My theory is that if true the reason would be the same of why Xbox was more popular than PS in US, why American Football is more popular than football in US, etc: because i'ts made in the USA and people tend to favor the products of their own country.
Other than that, MK traditionally offers way more single player content. Most players aren't harcore players like the average Neogaf or shoryuken.com forum member, they are normal mainstream players who don't like to play against unknown players online because they see it too difficult and frustrating.
There's the media controversy over MK being too violent, two movies, and a live action television series while it was at the arcades.
I really wouldn't be that surprised if people are more familiar with MK than SF.
this, especially the characters part.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
MK is more popular than SF? Real 'mericans love violence and gore, but shy away at immodest butt slaps and naughty muscle busters.
The Abominable Snowman
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The design. Most of MKs characters and environments look like they came from the west whereas Street Fighter deliberately picks on stereotypes for each character and doesn't look Western.
Also, MK has always had a lot more single player and multi player content that people like.
Also, MK has always had a lot more single player and multi player content that people like.
Aren't most Western violent games massively censored in Asia, brutal violence seem a hard sell there. Plus China has a ban on skeletons in games, they'd have to censor xrays and Scorpion's face
The Lone Dragon
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SF is now at 37 Million: http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/salesdata.html
That doesn't include Marvel games, which are basically SF spinoffs (I'm fairly certain MK vs DC is counted in MK's grand total, but I'm not sure).
Most of that is probably due to Tekken 3. Tekken 3 blew up HARD when it came to consoles. Hell, I bought 2 copies myself.
Gunslinger
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Tekken has always been the most popular FG worldwide. Nothing new here.
I'm not sure that's still true
Why?
I'm quite sure DoA3 performed better than DoA4, Tekken 5 performed better than Tekken 6, VF4 performed better than VF5, SC2 performed about the same as SC4, MK DA performed about the same as MK9.
The only FG series who performed significantly better in the gen following PS2 era was Smash (mainly due to Wii huge popularity compared to Gamecube).
Of course Capcom had a resurgence during PS3/360/Wii gen.
He?
Mk was good in the 90 was shit in 2000 and since MK9 has been the most complete fighting game you will get. Mk has been amazing. Im the gonna buy mk xl because it looks badass as fuck.
petran79
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It is not just about the realistic graphics (and exposed women).
Prior to Mortal Kombat there was Pit Fighter and it failed abysmally!
Also do not forget that suprisingly games like Samurai Shodown and Last Blade had edited blood in western arcades. Though they lacked realistic graphics, despite the polished gameplay.
SF2 was still more popular than MK1, but between MK2 and Trilogy, MK had turned as the most popular fighting game in the West.
Crisis for both started when companies began to shift their interest to 3D.
MK failed miserably with MK4, while SF did not manage to gain the momentum with SF EX. So Tekken, Virtua Fighter and Soul games took everyone by storm. Even decent western games like Mace The Dark Age. Samurai Shodown 64 was perhaps considered to niche when compared to the above games, so it was not released in the West.
The fact that both turned popular again using 2.5d instead of 3D graphics speaks as to how the preferences of the players changed. SF4 dropping the anime aesthetic of the older titles as well.
Also except gore, MK also featured sexualised female characters, reminding me that in arcades except MK there were some kinky cabs as well.
Prior to Mortal Kombat there was Pit Fighter and it failed abysmally!
Also do not forget that suprisingly games like Samurai Shodown and Last Blade had edited blood in western arcades. Though they lacked realistic graphics, despite the polished gameplay.
SF2 was still more popular than MK1, but between MK2 and Trilogy, MK had turned as the most popular fighting game in the West.
Crisis for both started when companies began to shift their interest to 3D.
MK failed miserably with MK4, while SF did not manage to gain the momentum with SF EX. So Tekken, Virtua Fighter and Soul games took everyone by storm. Even decent western games like Mace The Dark Age. Samurai Shodown 64 was perhaps considered to niche when compared to the above games, so it was not released in the West.
The fact that both turned popular again using 2.5d instead of 3D graphics speaks as to how the preferences of the players changed. SF4 dropping the anime aesthetic of the older titles as well.
Also except gore, MK also featured sexualised female characters, reminding me that in arcades except MK there were some kinky cabs as well.
Gunslinger
Member
I agree with you. With simple directional inputs for specials and dial a combo you can pretty much mash and get some cool moves out.
What?
No way in hell. Combos in MK are so hard to master and they complex. Just play online then you'll see what I'm talking about.
ShinMaruku
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Tekken only slowed down with Tekken 5. It always sold well.
RockTurtle
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controversy in western countries helped sell MK to a lot of kids.
Couple that with an easier to follow storyline padded by a popular movie and even several TV shows, MK penetrated the american public much better than SF.
plus the theme song.
i contribute MK's success to the theme song (TEST YOUR MIGHT)
Couple that with an easier to follow storyline padded by a popular movie and even several TV shows, MK penetrated the american public much better than SF.
plus the theme song.
i contribute MK's success to the theme song (TEST YOUR MIGHT)
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Its not more popular.
The thread is focusing on whether its more succesful financially but thats a different argument. Popularity is sales, reach, lasting power, social media, tournaments, etc etc. Street Fighter beats MK in all those areas.
The thread is focusing on whether its more succesful financially but thats a different argument. Popularity is sales, reach, lasting power, social media, tournaments, etc etc. Street Fighter beats MK in all those areas.
Because MK9 and MKX are outstanding games that are as casual friendly as they are deep, have tons of single player content, straightforward gameplay, no hidden mechanics bullshit and no stupid hit stop.
Just kidding, it's clearly because violence and gore and 'merica and that's why sophisticated Europeans don't liek it to the point it's not even shipped there.
The only thing SF "beats" MK at is tournaments; MK X has sold 5 million with no need of 4 revisions and 6 platforms, the franchise has been incredibly popular ever since its release and has had a reinvigoration since 2011 that only goes higher. Social media? This is the most ridiculous. Youtube has dozens of MK related videos with monstrous view counts that are in the 20 ~ mill, there are a lot of reaction videos and people playing the game, and I bet you could ask someone in the street -no matter their age or social group- what the two names are and they'd recognize MK most of the time.
The fact that you like SF more or your friends group plays it doesn't mean it's more popular.
Just kidding, it's clearly because violence and gore and 'merica and that's why sophisticated Europeans don't liek it to the point it's not even shipped there.
Exactly!
The only thing SF "beats" MK at is tournaments; MK X has sold 5 million with no need of 4 revisions and 6 platforms, the franchise has been incredibly popular ever since its release and has had a reinvigoration since 2011 that only goes higher. Social media? This is the most ridiculous. Youtube has dozens of MK related videos with monstrous view counts that are in the 20 ~ mill, there are a lot of reaction videos and people playing the game, and I bet you could ask someone in the street -no matter their age or social group- what the two names are and they'd recognize MK most of the time.
The fact that you like SF more or your friends group plays it doesn't mean it's more popular.
NumberThree
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Because Mortal Kombat has a badass motherfucking theme.
Mushroomer25
Member
MK's more of a spectacle fighter. Easy to pick up, fun variety in character choice, and dem bones break real good. The depth can be found, but its' not the reason people are coming to it.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
MK, aesthetically, has always been an assault to my eyes. Fake chinese mess mixed with bullshit. Can't stand looking at it
Yep
Yep
basically
I said easy to get into. You give someone a controller who never played Fighting games before and told them to play Mortal Kombat 9 or Super Street Fighter IV I guarantee you that they'll be able to understand Mortal Kombat 9 a lot quicker.
It's so much easier to explain to someone how to do down,right punch than to do quarter circle punch. It's easier to explain how to do left, right punch rather than hold back, press forward punch. It's easier to block with a button rather than a direction. It's easier to only use only four main Fighting buttons rather than six. Executing combo's is something that only big gamers would try to learn, not someone picking it up for the first time or trying to get into Fighting games.
Finale Fireworker
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I don't understand this thread.
Mortal Kombat is not more popular in America that SF. There is absolutely no evidence, cultural or statistical, to back this up.
And yet, this thread is four pages and people keep coming up with reasons to explain why. But... It's not. I don't understand.
Am I wrong? Maybe I'm wrong.
Mortal Kombat is not more popular in America that SF. There is absolutely no evidence, cultural or statistical, to back this up.
And yet, this thread is four pages and people keep coming up with reasons to explain why. But... It's not. I don't understand.
Am I wrong? Maybe I'm wrong.