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[Slamtastic]

They are trying to make the game playable online.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71pFCGJ0deQ

Rollback style netcode will be implemented into Mortal Kombat X.

January 19, closed beta for new netcode.

Anyone with 1 hour of online playtime can sign up.

4 characters will be available, Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Jacqui, and Johnny.

 

[MMaRsu]

Will the Ps4 version still be online region locked?

 

[RSTEIN]

PC???

 

[Valkrai]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71pFCGJ0deQ

January 19, closed beta for new netcode.

They are trying to make the game playable online.

Really cool to see this happening although I wish they had done it for MK9 or Injustice years ago.

 

[kewlmyc]

PC???

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[BiggNife]

tl;dr It's not actually GGPO but it's similarly structured rollback netcode

 

[Ibuki]

There is a website up, I can't seem to access it though.

http://beta.mortalkombat.com/

 

[Khezu]

I'm surprised how far they are willing to go with this, even doing a Beta.

I figured they would have just dumped out a patch and hoped for the best.

 

[Slamtastic]

PC???

Not NRS' problem.

http://www.high-voltage.com/contact.htm

 

[The Xtortionist]

I recall reading somewhere that UE3 or whatever engine MKX uses doesn't support rollback netcode. Guess that was wrong?

 

[Irishmantis]

I recall reading somewhere that UE3 or whatever engine MKX uses doesn't support rollback netcode. Guess that was wrong?

Sounds like they are doing their own in house version but yeah people where wrong

This news is huge

Let's hope region lock dies too

 

[RSTEIN]

Not NRS' problem.

http://www.high-voltage.com/contact.htm

So this is how they get me to buy a console. Clever fuckers.

 

[Defect]

So similar to Killer Instinct?

 

[Ferrio]

Glad they're finally fixing it, but man waiting until a month before the release of SFV was such a stupid decision.

 

[Mupod]

I really don't understand how such a big budget high profile game could have launched with crap netcode when something like Rising Thunder has great online.

 

[Irishmantis]

Glad they're finally fixing it, but man waiting until a month before the release of SFV was such a stupid decision.

Man they got their money it's like Top 10 best selling game of 2015 people would still buy KP2 regardless

They didn't have to this, but they did and I have nothing but respect, they are also testing it rather than just dumping it on us.

 

[Manu]

 

[Rocketz]

Maybe I'll rebuy the game if the online is fixed.

 

[Khezu]

I really don't understand how such a big budget high profile game could have launched with crap netcode when something like Rising Thunder has great online.

Programmers might have been stubborn and really wanted to salvage their netcode, or maybe WB didn't want them to waste resources on something they deemed "fine".

I don't know what changed, maybe the success of the SFV beta, the mountains of complaints, or the game selling 5 million copies and WB just saying fuck it and let them do w/e.

I'm pissed it launched the way it did, and that it took so long to fix, and I will probably spend way more time on SFV for a few months, but better late then never, and at least now I have the option to go back and play it online when I want to take a break from V.

 

[Neoxon]

That's good to hear. Hopefully PC players can get in on this as well & that the region lock dies with the input delay netcode.

 

[BiggNife]

I really don't understand how such a big budget high profile game could have launched with crap netcode when something like Rising Thunder has great online.

Well, Rising Thunder is being developed by the dude who made GGPO (the first attempt at rollback netcode) and was designed from the ground up to be online only, so I actually would have been legitimately surprised if that game's netcode sucked.

It's taken a while for rollback netcode to catch on with big developers and I imagine a big part of that is that most developers are set in their ways and don't want to go through the massive effort it takes to rebuild netcode from scratch with rollback in mind. SFV is the first Street Fighter game to have rollback netcode and that's because they entirely scrapped their SF4 netcode and started from the beginning, hence the waves of beta testing and resulting technical issues.

 

[Neoxon]

Well, Rising Thunder is being developed by the dude who made GGPO (the first attempt at rollback netcode) and was designed from the ground up to be online only, so I actually would have been legitimately surprised if that game's netcode sucked.

It's taken a while for rollback netcode to catch on with big developers and I imagine a big part of that is that most developers are set in their ways and don't want to go through the massive effort it takes to rebuild netcode from scratch with rollback in mind. SFV is the first Street Fighter game to have rollback netcode and that's because they entirely scrapped their SF4 netcode and started from the beginning, hence the waves of beta testing and resulting technical issues.

Street Fighter x Tekken & Third Strike: Online Edition said hi.

 

[Xav]

Glad they're finally fixing it, but man waiting until a month before the release of SFV was such a stupid decision.

Mortal Kombat is a pretty big deal these days. It's probably bigger than Street Fighter.

 

[robotrock]

Not NRS' problem.

http://www.high-voltage.com/contact.htm

I don't think it's High Voltage's problem anymore either.

 

[RSTEIN]

Programmers might have been stubborn and really wanted to salvage their netcode, or maybe WB didn't want them to waste resources on something they deemed "fine".

I don't know what changed, maybe the success of the SFV beta, the mountains of complaints, or the game selling 5 million copies and WB just saying fuck it and let them do w/e.

I'm pissed it launched the way it did, and that it took so long to fix, and I will probably spend way more time on SFV for a few months, but better late then never, and at least now I have the option to go back and play it online when I want to take a break from V.

Game development is complicated--time, money, talent, etc. They introduced a shit ton of new things in MKX: whole new single player campaign, new characters, 3 variations per character, all new stages, etc.

NRS really respects the kommunity which is why they're one of my fav developers. They have put a lot of money into the fighting scene since the game's release.

Also this is not just about MKX but also Injustice and MK11.

 

[MUnited83]

Not NRS' problem.

http://www.high-voltage.com/contact.htm

High Voltage has nothing to do with it anymore.

 

[Ferrio]

Mortal Kombat is a pretty big deal these days. It's probably bigger than Street Fighter.

Come on man.

 

[CountBlack]

Took long enough. I might actually give the game a proper shot now if the online is playable.


until SFV ofc.

Mortal Kombat is a pretty big deal these days. It's probably bigger than Street Fighter.

 

[Nirolak]

If we're talking raw sales, at over 5 million, that would be pretty true. You have to scrape together a lot of separate Street Fighter products to get that.

If we're talking about the size of the enduring community, that'd be unlikely.

 

[Sinatar]

Street Fighter x Tekken & Third Strike: Online Edition said hi.

HD remix as well.

 

[Dereck]

Maybe I'll buy the game if the online is fixed.

.

 

[Khezu]

High Voltage has nothing to do with it anymore.

Ya didn't they straight up fire HVS at some point? I remember PC players talking about someone else patching the game for a little while.

 

[Manu]

Ya didn't they straight up fire HVS at some point? I remember PC players talking about someone else patching the game for a little while.

I think NRS themselves ended up fixing the PC version.

 

[Mechazawa]

It's really insane how long it's taken everyone to wise up on this. I'm sure there are all sorts of technical challenges associated with this that we'll never fully know the depths of, but it feels like ASW is probably the only fighting game developer that has ever managed to make truly good netcode sans rollback.

 

[Qwark]

Noob here, what is rollback netcode? I've only played a couple rounds of MKX online, it seemed alright, but I don't really play online much anyway.

Edit: Can't watch the video right now if it's explained there.

 

[BoosterDuck]

Mortal Kombat is a pretty big deal these days. It's probably bigger than Street Fighter.

Ed Boon is that you?

 

[Purest 78]

Mortal Kombat is a pretty big deal these days. It's probably bigger than Street Fighter.

No

 

[Q8D3vil]

Mortal Kombat is a pretty big deal these days. It's probably bigger than Street Fighter.

Sales wise its fucking destroy SF, but SF competitive community is fucking huge.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

tl;dr It's not actually GGPO but it's similarly structured rollback netcode

eh

 

[Yogg]

Awesome news. Have any fighting game changed the netcode late after release before (real question)?

In any case it's great news seeing as the online code seems to be the main gripe with the game.

edit: Ed Boone's tweet mentions GGPO, is that for real? Very impressive move a year after launch if that is the case.

 

[kewlmyc]

Mortal Kombat is a pretty big deal these days. It's probably bigger than Street Fighter.

Technically MK does sell more, but I would say that the competitive scene for SF is way bigger.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Noob here, what is rollback netcode? I've only played a couple rounds of MKX online, it seemed alright, but I don't really play online much anyway.

Edit: Can't watch the video right now if it's explained there.

this is a good explanation

 

[impact]

People that defended the netcode now look even more ridiculous

Thank you Boon. I've been wanting to buy this for a while.

No

MK definitely sells more copies than Street Fighter. MKX was in the top 10 selling games of 2015.

 

[Cyber Caesar]

Sales wise its fucking destroy SF, but SF competitive community is fucking huge.

I think MK fans are more casual and less vocal but they are maybe more in number than SF fans. Truth be told MK fans are good for the genre casual or not. We all need to cut our teeth somehow.

 

[Majestad]

No

No what?

 

[Irishmantis]

Competetive wise SF is miles bigger now can we get back on topic pls

 

[Marvel]

I'M SO HAPPY YAAAAS!

 

[Arttemis]

What year is it.jpg

 

[RSTEIN]

Technically MK does sell more, but I would say that the competitive scene for SF is way bigger.

Yup, these are facts:

1) MK > SF sales
2) SF > MK competitive scene. SF is a truly global scene whereas NRS games are NA heavy + a Eastern/Western European scene that's getting bigger (and home to arguably the second best MKX player currently).

But, MKX still has a very healthy fighting scene.

 

[Moaradin]

This would definitely get me into MKX. If only they actually gave a shit about the pc version.