SFxT had rollback code? I could've swore it was just SF4's netcode.
I knew about 3SO but I should've clarified internally developed Capcom games. 3SO's netcode was all Iron Galaxy.
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SFxT had rollback code? I could've swore it was just SF4's netcode.
I knew about 3SO but I should've clarified internally developed Capcom games. 3SO's netcode was all Iron Galaxy.
My comment was based on sales and I stand by it.
Exactly. A more casual-than-SF fightning game is not a bad thing. That's not a competition. MKX has refined mechanics and a learning curve just not as steep as SFIV. It suffered from a poor netcode but this anouncement addresses that main/only flaw.
Mufausa The 3rd
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Nope it had rollback netcode and is the basis for SF5's netcode. They had some fancy japanese name for it that escapes me at the moment.
Collateral22
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Cyber Caesar
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I would like to poor out a little liquor for my friend Herman Cain. MK is better than SF I have a strange urge for pizza.
shawnoftheshred
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I think this is really big. MKX has done really well by the fighting game community, I think. Very casual friendly, with a decent single player story mode, weekly challenges, the krypt, etc., while also offering up big prize $ for ESL and other tournaments. The thing that was mostly holding it back was the snarky (but justified) comments from pro players saying the netcode made it so that they often lost key tournament matches to lag or had to completely learn new online-only strategies. Now that they've addressed it (assuming it works), NRS is on a pretty good path to continue to make well-received entries in the FGC. Can't wait!
Lost Fragment
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MK is definitely bigger than SF. Anyone who says otherwise is on that good shit.
Not like SF is anything to sneeze at though.
Not like SF is anything to sneeze at though.
Noisepurge
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Third Strike had a big update.
Dr. Buni
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It is also much better, even with the unplayable online.
Alright, thanks for the info!
I don't think any have had such a complete overhaul in type. Third Strike was always rollback-based, iirc They just tweaked it.
Boon probably shouldn't have teased GGPO specifically. Kinda misleading.
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Jotamide
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Too late and PC will probably not get this. Can't believe how disappointing everything surrounding this game was.
RecRoulette
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Boon's GGPO tease is probably his best joke yet. That's cold.
akilshohen
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Can you all just come together on the sales argument.
and join forces so we can get the vs game we've all dreamed of?
My guess is the latter, and WB is only now seeing SFV and the esports thing take off and realize they were shortsighted.
It's hard to to imagine WB not putting some kind of restraints on development.
I would like to poor out a little liquor for my friend Herman Cain. MK is better than SF I have a strange urge for pizza.
Pit fuckin' Fighter
If I recall correctly, MvC Origins also got a netcode update that Iron Galaxy was able to implement before Capcom's Marvel license expired.
Irishmantis
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Why is it a joke???
It's their own in house version of Rollback, let's see how it works before marking it off as a laughing matter
Cyber Caesar
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I'm curious to see if MK inadvertently causes Capcom to step up their presentation and offline offerings to compete with MK in the casual single player space. People that buy AAA event games skip over fighters because all effort is skewed towards competitive play. There's no reason fighting games can't compete in that AAA single player space too. I think Boon is going after Capcom in that competitive space if this GGPO tease is real.
Despite the oddity of a limited online beta coming AFTER the game has been released, this is super exciting. Good on Netherrealm for pulling the trigger on better netcode now instead of making us wait and hope for it in Injustice 2.
Having said that, I hope the new netcode is actually good.
Having said that, I hope the new netcode is actually good.
Irishmantis
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The beta testing gives me confidence
There's room for both of them, as long as they both give quality gameplay (and I don't think those 2 competitive scenes actually overlap). I really like this move forward for MKX, it shows they're not just pumping DLCs until the next opus like your usual AAA game.
Now I don't think Capcom will notice anything about it really. I'd love a more refined single player aspect for SFV, but that won't happen. On the other side tho, MKX would benefit greatly from the combo trials of SF (or KoF, or many other fighting games).
Fighting game wise as well SF is just on another level compared to MK but yes sales wise MK is huge and this is a great thing for them to do.
It's something that will hopefully make a difference for their online in the future as well.
shawnoftheshred
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We're really in a great time for fighters right now...
Mortal Kombat X was a huge success, super fun to play/watch and the developers are actively trying to make the netcode better for competitive play.
Street Fighter V has the fighting game community excited/really tested out its netcode ahead of release.
Killer Instinct has a pretty remarkable training mode...pretty remarkable net code...a unique structure for fighting game content and some really interesting character playstyles...and seems to be successful enough to warrant a 3rd season despite being exclusive to the One.
All three have or have promised to be involved in some pretty big payouts for pro fighting tournaments, with MKX and SFV in particular looking to push their efforts on the streaming of tourneys.
I'm excited.
Mortal Kombat X was a huge success, super fun to play/watch and the developers are actively trying to make the netcode better for competitive play.
Street Fighter V has the fighting game community excited/really tested out its netcode ahead of release.
Killer Instinct has a pretty remarkable training mode...pretty remarkable net code...a unique structure for fighting game content and some really interesting character playstyles...and seems to be successful enough to warrant a 3rd season despite being exclusive to the One.
All three have or have promised to be involved in some pretty big payouts for pro fighting tournaments, with MKX and SFV in particular looking to push their efforts on the streaming of tourneys.
I'm excited.
It is kinda messed up that boon made everyone think ggpo. Would rather him just play with the words "rollback" in a sentence. Still excited for this and hope pc can get in on the action.
kombat pack 2 will sell gangbusters with or without the improved netcode.
kombat pack 2 will sell gangbusters with or without the improved netcode.
I think it's the other way around: they gauged the success and lasting appeal of the game with the first kombat pack batch and months of online stats, and then decided for the new netcode route given the good results (and for a second kombat pack obviously, it's still WB).
I think the big thing is that they'll likely use this network infrastructure moving forward on future games (Injustice 2 or whatever comes next) and by working out the kinks now, on a game already notorious for having broken netplay, they can have a solid launch then and avoid getting a bad rep at the launch of their next title.
Stone Ocean
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Competitive scene aside, it's true.
Because there's a big gap between "rollback" and "GGPO". GGPO isn't just a rollback netcode, it's much more than that and if history taught us anything is that NRS can't develop netcodes for shit so there's a good chance that instead of a shite delay netcode MKX players now will have to deal with a shite rollback netcode.
Spine_Ripper
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Been wanting to get back into MKX for a few weeks but out of spite for the shit netcode, I refused lol.
This makes me happy.
This makes me happy.
Cyber Caesar
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Agreed. I think this would be a worthwhile addition to MKX. I hope NRS will dedicate resources to making this happen.
Sales, ok, MK can have it. The rest, no way.
Yes I am biased and I'll do an avatar selfie to save ppl's time.
Sales
Single player
Innovating and experimenting with their formula
Content.
Irishmantis
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Yeah but this time they are running a Beta which they never did before, it's okay to be pessimistic but declaring as shit straight away won't help. Is the fact they are adding it in, they are not forced too and money wise have nothing to lose if they don't as its one of the best selling games, I mean that's what gives me hope as in it shows they are actually trying this time
Yeah your right about Ed should not of hinted at using a brand name but they could of still did some work with the company I know they said "Similiar to how GGPO works" so hopefully a close carbon copy but who knows if they actually built this engine from scratch.
We'll see
Also correct me if I'm wrong, isn't SFV using their own house version of rollback?
Irishmantis
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I'm an MK fanboy who is also biased and I agree with youSales, ok, MK can have it. The rest, no way.
Yes I am biased and I'll do an avatar selfie to save ppl's time.
NRS are behind in matching Capcom games in Tourney numbers and longevity
DryEyeRelief
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SF having more people at evo doesn't mean it's better either
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