scar tissue said:
only genetically.
there is nothing human going on in the mind of a child rapist.
Huh?
Define human please. The primary difference between someone who can't control their impulse to gamble their life away and someone who can't control their impulse to molest children is the target of their addiction/obsession. The same systems that govern the behavior of a child molester governs the behavior of model citizens, but one or more things have "gone wrong" (for whatever reason) in the former. Thus, the purpose of the penal system is to either rehabilitate these people, or if this is infeasible, to separate them from the larger population to prevent any further harm from occurring on their behalf.
I know you're just expressing your righteous indignation at these behaviors, but the minds that produce them are most assuredly "human", and they are not necessarily being deliberately malevolent. We cannot accept their behavior under any circumstances, but saying they are "non-human" or "monsters" is quite counterproductive if your goal is to prevent future occurrences - accurate understanding of the problem is necessary to implement effective solutions.
Amirox said:
Because they don't go to jail for life. And who knows what happens down the line - what if these monsters get parole? No way it's worth risking it. Something like 55~60% of these freaks re-offend.
They don't get sterilized, either. So if we're in the magical wonderland where our whims become law, they would stay in gaol for life.
Amirox said:
No, I'm talking demonstrated with DNA or video other type of unassailable evidence. If you find DNA of some monster on a kid's genitals, it's rock solid. Otherwise if your case is not at 100%, then you go to jail for life. In the rare case it's proven wrong then there won't be a mistake.
"Beyond a reasonable doubt" is not actually pushed to that stringent standard. This would be.
So what's happening if they don't get convicted in this way? Do they get off scott free, or do they get put in the "maybe you didn't do it, sucks to be you" prison?
Amirox said:
That's not an argument. That's just hippie bullshit based on idealism. You can meditate on that and repeat the mantra, it's not going to change that these child molesters deserve sterilization. They should NEVER have children; they should NEVER be able to rape again in that fashion.
Please step back and listen to what you are saying. You appear to have asserted "child molesters deserve sterilization" as the premise of your position, and is also the conclusion. Saying "they deserve it" or "they are irredeemable" is not a stronger position than simply stating that they ought to be sterilized to begin with. If you are wishing simply to express your opinion, that's fine, but if you're trying to convince anybody else that theirs is wrong, then it's just begging the question, and can be dismissed on these grounds alone.
I should also note that if you are merely expressing your views, you have chosen to do it in an extremely abrasive way, and it would be great if you could stop belittling people and calling them hippies for disagreeing with you.