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Naked peeping tom in critical condition after beatdown by victim's family.
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Um? what?
The guy was running away apparently. Call the cops and be done with it. I don't understand what you find so upsetting?
WanderingWind
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I'm long gone too. Recently went back. It's gotten decidedly more modern and it still has that harsh beauty about it.
But. It's still New Mexico. Glad I'm gone.
You said,
He is masturbating, a stranger, naked, in your yard, outside your young daughter's window.
Perhaps that was poor wording on my part.
Would a better choice of words be "force him to vacate the premises"?
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I miss the food...and the harsh beauty...and the sunsets.
But mostly the food.
Don't miss everything being turquoise and fucking salmon.
I didn't realize GAF was going to come to the defense of a peeping tom getting pummeled.
This dude's spanking the monkey outside the window on some guy's daughter's room and people are shocked that he and a few other beat the dude half to death.
There could have been nothing stopping the pervy perp from opening that window and doing true unspeakable things to those girls. Imagine how disturbing that is to have someone watchin you in the middle of the night with that perverted intent.
He may not make it, but then again, he brought that whoopin on himself. If I had a kid, I'd do the same thing.
This dude's spanking the monkey outside the window on some guy's daughter's room and people are shocked that he and a few other beat the dude half to death.
There could have been nothing stopping the pervy perp from opening that window and doing true unspeakable things to those girls. Imagine how disturbing that is to have someone watchin you in the middle of the night with that perverted intent.
He may not make it, but then again, he brought that whoopin on himself. If I had a kid, I'd do the same thing.
The Technomancer
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I can't say I feel particularly sympathetic towards the guy
But I do think that even when enraged you can't just assault someone like that.
Of course we don't know any details, we don't know if he legitimately did pose a threat. Although there were three of them. And it sounds like his ass was handed to him.
But I do think that even when enraged you can't just assault someone like that.
Of course we don't know any details, we don't know if he legitimately did pose a threat. Although there were three of them. And it sounds like his ass was handed to him.
You don't wanna see no ambulances?
The Technomancer
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Basically this is an argument about proportionate response
Byakuya769
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Beating someone nearly to death doesn't exactly seem like a sane response to a peeping tom. He wasn't sexually assaulting anyone. Calling the police would've sufficed.
Besides, anime has taught me that perverts are funny! Master Roshi always makes me chuckle with his antics.
I mean, YOLO, right?
Besides, anime has taught me that perverts are funny! Master Roshi always makes me chuckle with his antics.
I mean, YOLO, right?
WanderingWind
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It can be one punch that puts somebody in critical condition. This isn't the movies.
No you dumbass. Naked obviously means he's not normal, but it also means he has no weapons or anything to hurt you with, and beating a man into critical condition once you've already chased him away down the street AND already called the cops isn't protecting your family, it's being an asshole.
Don't interpret this as me saying the guy wasn't asking for trouble with what he did, and don't think for a second I don't think this is all his fault. It is. And he should be punished to whatever extent of the law. But the three men that beat this naked man nearly to death, whatever the circumstances, aren't innocent of everything either.
Slackbladder
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I know that in the UK if you confront someone in or on your property the law will usually protect you. However, if you chase after them away from your property then assault them the law probably won't.
Of course it may be different in the US where violence seems perfectly normal and acceptable.
Of course it may be different in the US where violence seems perfectly normal and acceptable.
WanderingWind
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Neat! We didn't have the jingoistic angle covered yet. Thanks!
Nobody here is saying that peeping leads to raping.
Um, several people said that.
The Technomancer
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No-one is defending him. No-one (okay, I'm pretty sure)
What people are arguing about is proportionate response. Unless you believe that any response up to and including killing him would have been proportionate, in which case, well, I think we're going to disagree.
Nobody's defending him. Do you have reading comprehension issues?
The Technomancer
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Proportionate
Response
Did they have a right to kill him?
or to tie him down and torture him?
did they have a right to beat him to the point of critical condition?
Is what people are asking.
Extra Sauce
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Whoever beat the peeping tom into a coma are probably as mentally disturbed as he is/was.
You're so cool dude.
Extra Sauce
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Oh "executing peeping toms on the street is okay"-GAF.
It's really society falling apart when any crime (or just walking on the street like Trayvon) can be punished by your fellow citizens with deadly violence.
Isn't that why we have established the police and the justice system?
Disgusting that people get excited and LOL from reading about a very disturbed person (naked in the bushes, that's a mental case) getting beaten to an inch of their lives.
Isn't that why we have established the police and the justice system?
Disgusting that people get excited and LOL from reading about a very disturbed person (naked in the bushes, that's a mental case) getting beaten to an inch of their lives.
WanderingWind
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That's fine. I find this type of post disgusting. Can I claim society is falling apart now?
Don't compare trayvon with catching a masturbating peeping Tom right outside your house. Pretty shitty analogy
The Technomancer
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I mean, I'm not saying I can't empathize with the family. Hell, in their position I would probably want to beat the shit out of him as well. I might even actually do it. But just because I want something doesn't make it right
Two people is hardly several people.
Good to know so many people are okay with brutally and painfully killing people who are potentially mentally disturbed, as long as the person's mental issues does something against their sensibilities.
I'm more mad at anyone who thinks this guy should be beaten and killed than I could ever be at him for peeping.
I'm more mad at anyone who thinks this guy should be beaten and killed than I could ever be at him for peeping.
The Technomancer
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I wouldn't go that far. Unless he is really truly mentally debilitated (in which case he should be in care and if he's not then that's sad) then he should be functional enough to also know that just because he wants something doesn't make it right
Obviously killing him is too far, but I don't believe the way in which they reacted was unwarranted. He was on their property and a seemingly potential threat to their family. Impulsive or not I don't know many fathers who wouldn't have acted similarly. Getting beat within an inch of his life is just a the reaction of that impulsive reaponse. On top of that, one was 13 year old girl so there's the stigma of pedophilia as well. I can get behind people saying he didn't deserve to be in critical condition but there are people in here arguing he shouldn't have been beat to begin with which is what my original post was about.
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