I'll be sure to discount the state by state approval ratings then, but since this is a national poll, we can talk about how the averages of those polls were correct.
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NBC/Hart Poll: Trump's job approval at 44 percent
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I'll be sure to discount the state by state approval ratings then, but since this is a national poll, we can talk about how the averages of those polls were correct.
No, just most of you.
A greater percentage of White People support Donald Trump than every other racial or ethnic group.
Own it.
Ziltoidia 9
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This is why we need to beef up how well we teach civics in K-12 schooling. Trump is a travesty in government operation.
entremet
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We're getting into McCarthyism territory now. Millions also voted for Clinton. We gotta stop attacking other. We're on the same team. JFC.
Michael F. Assbender
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Sorry, but no. If you take the number of white people who voted for someone other than Cinnamon Hitler and add that to those who didn't vote, the vast majority of white people didn't vote Trump.
You were wrong. Own it.
NoblesseOblige
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Nice cognitive bias.
Right, but many posters are taking the approach of "not all polls were wrong" = "none of the polls were wrong!", such as the guy I quoted claiming it was a simple margin of error issue.
Are you really equating being white in America with being a minority elsewhere?
I see absolutely nothing wrong with placing some blame on the rise of a fascist with the blatantly obvious pool of people who voted for him.
That is not blame on you. Get over it. If you live in America you're in the majority - you are not oppressed, so stop acting like it.
Then I should have said that most white people who voted voted for Trump.
It still stands that the percentage of White people who voted for Trump is larger than the percentage of black people who voted for Trump, is larger than the percentage of Asian-Americans who voted for Trump, is larger than the percentage of Latino-Americans who voted for Trump, etc.
If it weren't for White People Trump never would have been President.
yanipheonu
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Hmmm.
What has been the lowest approval rating?
So yeah, this is actually pretty low. Can Trump beat Bush though?
It's pretty great that Scandal Clinton has more approval than One Month Trump.
What has been the lowest approval rating?
So yeah, this is actually pretty low. Can Trump beat Bush though?
It's pretty great that Scandal Clinton has more approval than One Month Trump.
Slurpy2k20
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Just confirmation that it doesn't really matter what the fuck Trump does or doesn't do. He'll still be supported by roughly half the population, cause of ... (vile) reasons. An incredibly tragic, depressing, and infuriating thought. The concepts of right and wrong, truth vs lies, are becoming more and more irrelevant. What're more relevant is having a guy shit on people that you have an irrational hatred for. As long as there's the possibility that their lives will become worse, you win.
How did bush manage to keep it at 37%?! That sure puts Trump's numbers in perspective...
The crazy thing is that Clinton's approval went up to something like 73 percent the week after the impeachment.
Or just stupid.
hydragonwarrior
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It's high because a lot of people still don't care enough to participate in polls, even if they're super dissatisfied.
SolarPowered
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I'd say 44% of Americans probably deserve less of a right to vote than non-violent criminal offenders.
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SiteSeer
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no please don't. need every vote and voice to reject this ketchup on well done steak eating mufugga.
pixelation
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That's too high...
The weird thing is that pundits are calling it the 'Trump Bump' but the stock market had been gaining well before the presidential election...
They take credit for anything positive, and throw blame at everyone else for anything negative.
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It didn't jump that much; different polls have different modelling assumptions; and most nationally valid polls have about a 3% margin of error, so 38% and 44% are quite literally indistinguishable on a single draw.
This is such a pathetic attitude to have, as if a singular white person belongs or has to answer to all the shitty white peoples actions. Just stop.
Some people (on both sides) will never disapprove of the candidate or party that they've decided to back. It's less of an issue with Dems/liberals, because we're hypercritical and impossible to please.
Yup. I have been extremely disappointed in the behavior of the DNC. They need to be reformed/replaced.
NorthAndSouth
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How is it that high? What would this idiot have to do to lose the approval of 44% of voters??!!
That is just sad. This isn't me talking as a liberal or whatever but America is in SERIOUS trouble if this much of the population really doesn't have basic critical thinking skills.
That is just sad. This isn't me talking as a liberal or whatever but America is in SERIOUS trouble if this much of the population really doesn't have basic critical thinking skills.
CrispyBoar
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You took the words out of my mouth.
Actually, you would be right:
Christ.
Arrogant Bastard
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No shit, I'm not saying they cannot vote. I'm saying that if you are going to keep your head so far up your ass that you cannot determine if someone is doing a good job and/or get educated on issues I would appreciate it if you wouldn't vote.
Lol, look at that jump on the economic conditions of today.
rokkerkory
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I am sure Devos will do that
The Chosen One
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For Trump's first month, his approval numbers are about the same as much of Obama's second term.
There's two schools of thought on Trump's current approval ratings.
Some say he's starting his Presidential term at historical low numbers and now has zero cushion and will only go down from here.
Others say, we're so polarized these days 44% is the new normal. Also Trump has done zero outreached to improve his numbers, but he does have a solidified hardened base of about 35% that will stick with him even through an impeachment trial for treason as long as the economy is perceived to be doing good.
Personally I think both thoughts have truth to it. As some already mentioned in this thread, Trump does have a hardened base but if they start feeling some new hardships under Trump, then you could start to see his base liquify. That's why repealing Obamacare is so dangerous for Republicans. A large portion of Red states are the beneficiaries of Obamacare and if their healthcare benefits erode under Trump, then that could cause Trump's numbers to implode even among Trump loyalist.
Also, outside of a presidential campaign, it takes time for approval numbers to go down. Not everyone is dialed into politics all the time, so it may take 12-18 months of consistently bad news and mistakes for it to reflect in Trump's overall approval rating. And while 35% has completely hardened for Trump, it's pretty clear 50-55% have hardened against Trump over the past month. Democrats already hate Trump more than George W. Bush and many Independents are already having buyer's remorse.
Progressives mostly fell asleep during the 2016 election. But the sleeping giant has been woken and it looks like it's going to be a blood bath for Republicans in the 2018 mid-terms. It's why you got guys like Darrel Issa calling for independent investigations. He sees the impending wave. And almost no one at this point feels Trump has a shot at being re-elected.
There's two schools of thought on Trump's current approval ratings.
Some say he's starting his Presidential term at historical low numbers and now has zero cushion and will only go down from here.
Others say, we're so polarized these days 44% is the new normal. Also Trump has done zero outreached to improve his numbers, but he does have a solidified hardened base of about 35% that will stick with him even through an impeachment trial for treason as long as the economy is perceived to be doing good.
Personally I think both thoughts have truth to it. As some already mentioned in this thread, Trump does have a hardened base but if they start feeling some new hardships under Trump, then you could start to see his base liquify. That's why repealing Obamacare is so dangerous for Republicans. A large portion of Red states are the beneficiaries of Obamacare and if their healthcare benefits erode under Trump, then that could cause Trump's numbers to implode even among Trump loyalist.
Also, outside of a presidential campaign, it takes time for approval numbers to go down. Not everyone is dialed into politics all the time, so it may take 12-18 months of consistently bad news and mistakes for it to reflect in Trump's overall approval rating. And while 35% has completely hardened for Trump, it's pretty clear 50-55% have hardened against Trump over the past month. Democrats already hate Trump more than George W. Bush and many Independents are already having buyer's remorse.
Progressives mostly fell asleep during the 2016 election. But the sleeping giant has been woken and it looks like it's going to be a blood bath for Republicans in the 2018 mid-terms. It's why you got guys like Darrel Issa calling for independent investigations. He sees the impending wave. And almost no one at this point feels Trump has a shot at being re-elected.
ryutaro's mama
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I have serious doubts about 2018 being a bloodbath in favor of Dems, especially in those heavily gerrymandered areas.
The Chosen One
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True, I would need to look again at the party split in what few swing districts are left. But the Dems did make some gains in the 2016 election in the House. Also there is a ton of energy out there, not just in the big cities. Any district that isn't heavily gerrymandered, I think will be very competitive.
Trump's victory was an eye-opening lesson for the registered non-voter. As with most midterms, the opposition party usually comes out highly motivated and the party in power tends to be complacent or depressed.
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