Honestly not sure. My first thought was that there won't be any NCAA games at all.
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NCAA Will Not Renew License With EA to use NCAA name [Up: EA still making College FB]
- Thread starter Jonboy
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They deal with one entity that represents the schools, it looks like. But each school has their own terms - it's not like EA gets all schools in one fell swoop.
But would this open the door for another company to go a college football game?
VicDaMoan03
Member
That entity is the NCAA and EA does get them in one scoop in their deal with the NCAA.
EA has a deal with the CLC in place already.
Go look at the NCAA 2014 website, scroll to the bottom. It's all right there.
The NCAA does not own the rights to Universities stadiums, coaches, uniforms, etc. The schools all own those individually and most of them work with IMG/CLC to handle their product licensing.
Would you please stop saying things that aren't true over and over again when other people are telling you how it works.
Mr.Awesome
Banned
No EA exclusively in a deal with CLC
IcyRhythms
Member
But is it exclusive like the NCAA name was to EA? That's my question. Can 2K(assuming they would even bother)make a College Football 2K game?
diffusionx
Gold Member
Good.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/96229/Electronic_Arts_Signs_Exclusive_Deal_With_NCAA.php
Way back in '05 they announced an exclusive deal with the NCAA and CLC.
So unless the CLC drops exclucivity no one will be making a college football game.
The CLC is where EA has been getting these rights for the last 9 years, not the NCAA. So unless something changes there don't expect to see much in the way of change other than a new name on the box.
kingofkingz30
Banned
Please be true. NCAA 2K15 anyone?
KefkaPalazzo
Member
Can't wait for the new and improved recruiting system. Offering a hooker is max risk but highest result if it pays off...at least until the release of an expansion adding Miami gives an abortion option.
Hmm...so basically CLC and EA could still make the games. They just can't mention NCAA anywhere at all? That right?
Ninja Scooter
Member
You are assuming that other companies aside from EA would see value in producing a college football video game. It's not exactly a powerhouse genre. It makes sense for EA because they already have the Madden engine and the in house resources on a yearly basis. With publishers tightening up their spending it would probably be too risky of an endeavor. I mean, everyone mentions 2k but didn't they voluntarily discontinue their college hoops games? Aren't they trying to get out of the Baseball business because its just not worth the investment required?
storybook77
Member
The NFL isn't going to get sued by former players because they were represented in a game because the NFLPA signs off on the game. This goes for any pro league.
So there's not a chance Madden, NBA 2k or Live, NHL, or MLB games will be affected by this.
EDIT: Also, 2k tried making a College Football game once and it was awful. They tried to use their NFL 2k presentation in a college game and that just doesn't work. They didn't even have a rankings system, IIRC.
Could a mod put a link to the CLC info in the OP and clarify that the CLC deal is where EA gets the rights to the teams, stadiums, etc from?
This thread is 90% people popping in exclaiming the end of the franchise or the return of 2k5 when this news has zero to do with that.
This thread is 90% people popping in exclaiming the end of the franchise or the return of 2k5 when this news has zero to do with that.
I wasn't assuming anything. I'm legitimately trying to figure out what this means exactly.
Still I'm sure they couldn't name it the same after losing this license
IcyRhythms
Member
I wasn't trying to insinuate that this news directly has some sort of affect on 2K, the NFL, or their deal with EA. I'm saying, based on this SOMEWHAT exciting news, I'm hoping it leads to more exciting news as the contact with EA and the NFL is up after this season.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
You can't use the name "NCAA." Thus this whole topic...
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Don't know why people are downplaying how big of a loss this is.
Generic College Football 2015 is a -lot- harder to sell than having the NCAA in front of it. Sales are going to take a pretty big hit.
Generic College Football 2015 is a -lot- harder to sell than having the NCAA in front of it. Sales are going to take a pretty big hit.
I doubt it. This is probably the last one for at least a certain period of time thanks in part to this Ed O'Bannon shit. They're covering their asses.
TheGreyHulk
Member
time to sell your EA shares people
storybook77
Member
Which is fine but how many people that made NFL 2k5 are even still with 2k sports?
EA has already agreed to not renew their current exclusive deal with CLC when they were sued.
https://www.easportslitigation.com/Home/FAQ
https://www.easportslitigation.com/Home/FAQ
Ninja Scooter
Member
The NCAA is no longer in the business of licensing themselves out for products like football video games. That's pretty much all this means. They were not the end all be all, they were just another logo to have on the box. From the sounds of it, they were not even a vital cog in terms of allowing ea to use school names and stadiums.
This basically means that they can't call is NCAA football anymore. Or use the NCAA logo.
Everything else right now will be the same.
I assume that the NCAA might tell schools that the game cannot use players likenesses at some point. So you could no longer have a player that looks and plays like Johnny Football at A&M with his number but not name.
If that happens it would be a big blow to the title. You could download OS rosters of course, but it means the balance will be all kinds of jacked and up to whoever made the roster.
The NCAA might also tell schools that allowing an easy roster download to circumvent those rules would be an issue as well.
So the NCAA might still stick their nose in here and give member schools instructions that would really hurt the franchise. But as of now, nothing has happened.
BCS is separate from NCAA they could easily just make it BCS 2015 if they wanted.
Well,
That is a bigger problem and might signal the end of college football games. Yowza.
IcyRhythms
Member
I couldn't say
I would like to think(given how great they are)a lot of those guys have made their way over the NBA team. The NFL2K games were always Visual Concepts if I'm not mistaken. I think it's all somewhat part of the same team given VC still does then NBA stuff too...
Someone else may have better information
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Yeah sounds like they're getting out.
The O'Bannon case might not even matter. But it could very well be the death knell to college games.
VicDaMoan03
Member
Maybe EA gets all the schools in their next game but it will have generic players. That is what this whole issue stems from: players having their likeness sold and not getting paid while EA/NCAA/other big company profits from such likeness. Say hello to generic college football 2014.
Ninja Scooter
Member
BCS Football 2015 with a big ass picture of Johnny Manziel on the cover will probably do just fine.
IcyRhythms
Member
My kinda game
Just put Tim Tebow on the cover again. Problem solved.
People are just looking right past the OP to hit the reply button.
This is the end of all college sports games. Instead of the NCAA manning the fuck up and paying the same players they make billions off the backs of, they backed out because they don't want to be held accountable. And for EA, this makes it a tough sell. Nobody will buy a college football game with only 1/8 of the entire nation's teams, especially not one with a generic name.
As for anybody else stepping into EA's place... 2K Sports learned long ago that it's impossible to sell a college sports game when it doesn't have the draw of professional leagues. If EA can't profit from it, then nobody can.
And EA just lost a flagship sports title. They are fucked...
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This is the end of all college sports games. Instead of the NCAA manning the fuck up and paying the same players they make billions off the backs of, they backed out because they don't want to be held accountable. And for EA, this makes it a tough sell. Nobody will buy a college football game with only 1/8 of the entire nation's teams, especially not one with a generic name.
As for anybody else stepping into EA's place... 2K Sports learned long ago that it's impossible to sell a college sports game when it doesn't have the draw of professional leagues. If EA can't profit from it, then nobody can.
And EA just lost a flagship sports title. They are fucked...
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storybook77
Member
As you just skipped over other posts pointing out that the CLC is the actual licensee of college teams, logos, bowls, stadiums, etc.
EDIT: As for your edit, that says they've decided not to re-up on the EXCLUSIVE license, it does not say that they will not obtain a license at all.
Thats like saying soccer game is not going to sell because they don't have every single team/players/stadium. If they can get 75-85% of the teams they will be fine.
Look at the edit...
NCAA Football (or college sports in general) is nowhere near as big as FIFA. FIFA can get away with it because they are a global presence. Football is only big in America, and college football is only big when dealing with a few major conferences...
No, that Entity is the CLC. The CLC != NCAA.
Some of you are probably too young to remember, but back in the mid 90s the EA college football game did not have the NCAA license. It was called "Bill Walsh College Football".
EA doesn't need the NCAA to keep making their CFB game. They just need the CLC.
storybook77
Member
Just edited mine to reflect yours.