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WHY IS THERE A GIANT ANGRY TOBY GIF

The better question is, why not?

 

[The Mad Draklor]

Yes, it's so absurd that people even utter this shit that both sides are the same. Nearly two decades of having this shit pushed down our throats and now that we are finally getting enough traction and pushback people want to cry about it being too much. Anyone telling you both sides are the same is part of the problem.

The funny part is that when they push "Muh both sides", they indirectly admit that the woke side is bad. In doing that, that gives credibility to the non-woke/anti-woke side and they don't like that. So what do they do? Poison the well, of course!

 

[Plague Doctor]

Let's make this real easy.

You have an issue with anti-woke shit? Talk about how you have an issue with anti-woke shit. People will react.

You have an issue with woke shit? Talk about how you have an issue with woke shit. People will react.

Crying how you want both sides to be quiet? Yeah... that isn't going to happen. People have opinions. People will bitch. Deal or ignore.



Let's not make this into purple place where moderation puts a thumb down on the scale to play defense for one side and silences the other.

 

[Ishma3L]

Classic OP, always going off their meds before an account suicide.

 

[Insane Metal]

Damn, this thread still going

 

[saintjules]

I'm literally shaking right now

Damn, this thread still going

'Massive and growing' as some people say on here.

 

[PeteBull]

I think folks are misunderstanding where he's coming from. True, you can get away with a lot of things being said here, but people here are the anti purple forum, they will dogpile on you like no tomorrow. There's just no room for discussion sometimes, it can be exhausting. What's funny is that this is a gaming forum, but most times its just social commentary.

U gotta look at it from logical pov- if u for example defend stupid move of publisher/devstudio, and ppl call that move out and call u out, giving arguments, no1 on here silences/bans u, so u are free to respond, we can see it when for example man_in_boxes can respond in some gaas topics vs 20 ppl at once, he isnt right but he can voice his opinion, present his pov and arguments for it.

Now on rainbow forum if u are against particular ideology being pushed in certain games or voice ur support for games that cater to male audience , mildly even, w/o cursning or personal insults of any kind, u are imediately perma banned, ur post is removed, u get insta-silenced, thats huge difference vs discussions here where all kinds of diverse opinions are allowed and even encouraged

Thats actual tollerance- u dont agree with something/some1 on particular topic, but u are still adult enough to have discussion about it, u tolerate its existence, yes u can post funny meme/gif about it but thats fine
Btw- last defense against ceonzorship(and believe me, i know, i was born and grew up in communist poland) is comedy, comedy allows us to laugh at tabu topics and voice our opinions in a funny way, once even comedy isnt allowed u know dictatorship/totalitarism is in full swing.

 

[SHAKEZ]

Can't believe I missed this...

 

[The Sum of Zero]

 

[Gonzito]

'Massive and growing' as some people say on here.

Does OP have Parkinson?

 

[Bernardougf]

The funny part is that when they push "Muh both sides", they indirectly admit that the woke side is bad. In doing that, that gives credibility to the non-woke/anti-woke side and they don't like that. So what do they do? Poison the well, of course!

I tried to argue this point with a fellow "neutral" , by making he acknowledge the dev side (the woke side) , he didnt reply, how people hate both sides but at the same time pretends theres no wokeness in gaming or in studios is fascinating.

 

[dispensergoinup]

Me when I finally see this glorious thread:

 

[diffusionx]

3. is actually the correct one.
Well, okay, I don't know about "equally" bad. But certainly both bad and insanely annoying, I don't care who is worse or who started it - that entire culture war nonsense is kindergarten level mud slinging and I can feel my brain cells dying whenever I witness it.
The entirety of gaming/entertainment was certainly better off before this culture war brain rot and social media took over and absolutely everything is now quickly turned into that fiasco, usually for no good reason at all.

Honestly, OP might be melting like ice cream in the sun, but I definitely get where he's coming from.
The best places left online to discuss gaming and entertainment are those that completely forbid any political discussion because it is simply no longer possible to engage in that without feeling like you are suddenly surrounded by a bunch of toddlers screaming at each other (and sometimes you, because you just happened to be there).

It used to be way more tolerable here, but I guess moderation doesn't want to bother.
For some reason, console warring is a no-go, but turning everything into this culture war clownshow is a-ok.
Seems like fucked up priorities to me, but whatever.

Well, this site once had a politics subforum and nuked it. Wisely, as it turns out.

Look. The thing I always say is that the devs who made this game decided to make it this way, is reacting to it the same thing as actually making it? I don't want to play the Indian lesbian cuck game, does that make me exactly the same as the team of devs that actually spent years making the Indian lesbian cuck game? It's ridiculous. Also ridiculous is the idea that it is culture warring to say I won't play the Indian lesbian cuck game because it's an Indian lesbian cuck game. I can't play every game on earth, I can't consume every bit of media on the planet, i can play or not play any game for any reason I want.

 

[Hudo]

This thread should be a sticky. That would be hilarious.

 

[saintjules]

Does OP have Parkinson?

 

[Gonzito]

This thread should be a sticky. That would be hilarious.

A reminder of how not to make a fool of yourself online, because these types of meltdowns are not normal or reasonable.

Seriously, we are all adults here with different opinions, and it is fine. It is healthy that we can express different ideas without being censored like in the purple asylum.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

Every day it's the same thing: "The industry is out to get us! The developers hate us! The haircuts are a conspiracy!"

i see way more people making fun of it than getting legit angry or whatever

it does suck though seeing the purple people mangle existing IP after existing IP
who wants something that was cool to come back and suck?

 

[Odinnii]

This isn't going to work.

Its easy to push against Saros, then celebrate its failure. Was not gonna sell a lot anyways.

But then, another game comes with much more heavy handed narrative stuff, and sells 10 million in a week.

What message is being sent?

They found the modern audience! Good for them.

I don't care if a woke game succeeded, I care about developer tranparency, the removal of outside influence in the game creating processs and the ability for gamers to voice their grievances without being waved-away by shills and disingenuous ideologues.

This isn't just woke vs anti-woke btw, I remember during the X360/PS3 days when game companies were trying to get away with bullshit monetization and the people who were defending that crap. The $10 EA online-pass, on-disc DLC etc etc

 

[Dr Bass]

Me when I finally see this glorious thread:

Listening to Gladiator opening battle music as I see this.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Oh, makes sense now

Well, off to retardedfucksEra for you

I'm just getting around to reading this, lol.

The Marathon CCU thread is a harsh mistress.

 

[mckmas8808]

Damn, this thread still going

The culture war addiction is real.


People are.....

 

[Mengy]

I remember getting banned for 'victim-blaming( or was it victim-shaming, they make shit up) for taking issue to a female survivor of a mass shooting saying 'thank God he spared my life'. Which prompted me to say 'how fortunate for her that God spared her life and not the others who died.' Some months earlier I was actually in a bar that had an incident where 4 people were shot dead and I was about 10 feet away. It took me weeks to get over it as a 'survivor', but would never say something 'oh thank GOD he choose to keep me alive but the 4 people who died, sucks for them I guess.....'

Anyways, banned by some snowflake without word or warning. And they all hide behind their little perches anonymously so you never know who's sniping you.

Heh, I got banned from the purple forum simply for having an opinion different than the echo chamber. I didn't call anyone names, I didn't try to argue with anyone, I didn't disrespect anyone, I simply voiced a differing opinion. In actuality I agree with most of the members over there on like 90% of things. In fact I'd say most members there are decent people, but man the mods sure are something else. No discussion outside the echo chamber is permitted, at all.

It's healthy to discuss viewpoints different than your own. Discussion and debate is how we grow as individuals, its how we learn. Its why freedom of speech is so important and why echo chambers are so harmful. And it's why GAF is a much healthier place for discussion than the purple place, because here discussion is actually allowed to happen.

Many people today are so thin skinned and fragile that they can't handle discussion or disagreement, and its a large reason why we have the current mental health crisis we are experiencing in many parts of the world. Much like the OP of this thread, he would rather be banned than be part of discussions he doesn't like. That's not healthy, and I feel sad for him.

 

[KanKamAndNob]

The people that try and claim moral superiority on others for calling out the ever-devolving "progressive" ideologies that has infested every facet of media and entertainment, are the same people who either pushed for it or said nothing as it ruined everything over the years.
Don't let some ideologically captured sheep try and emotionally blackmail you because you dare to discuss what merits a good game these days - it's a discussion forum.

Industries banked on it, in some cases were incentivized to push it - and that has come to an end. We are now witnessing the fallout. Studios who championed identity politics as their guiding principal over making great games and art are now shuttering in droves and they have the audacity to blame the people they shit on for not buying their slop.

Turns out the people who want all their representation jammed into whatever the fuck you're making - ain't the ones buying, never were, and just want to see existing beloved IPs ruined.

It really has been incredible watching a media industry ruin all its existing good-will & credibility by alienating their loyal fanbases & consumers, turning them from a guarantee day one purchase to a "wait and see".
They made their bed and can lie in it.

Wokesters: woke doesn't exist.

Also wokesters: let's heap praise and awards to games like Horizon, The Last of Us 2, and Dragon Age. Veilguard for challenging 'incel' game design and giving us LGBTQ and strong feminist characters.

 

[dorkimoe]

i wish wed ban that word, it literally means nothing.

 

[kevboard]

Wokesters: woke doesn't exist.

Also wokesters: let's heap praise and awards to games like Horizon, The Last of Us 2, and Dragon Age. Veilguard for challenging 'incel' game design and giving us LGBTQ and strong feminist characters.

I hate that people started hating Sony's games for the wrong reasons...

the bad game design was seemingly totally fine, but the moment they were seen as too woke people finally hated them, just like I do...

so I am happy they are getting hate, cuz they're badly designed AAA slop... but sad that no-one hates them for the right reasons

 

[Neolombax]

I hate that people started hating Sony's games for the wrong reasons...

the bad game design was seemingly totally fine, but the moment they were seen as too woke people finally hated them, just like I do...

so I am happy they are getting hate, cuz they're badly designed AAA slop... but sad that no-one hates them for the right reasons

Exactly this

 

[Topher]

i wish wed ban that word, it literally means nothing.

"First thing I did when I woke up this morning......"

 

[viveks86]

i wish wed ban that word, it literally means nothing.

Banning a word? Sounds pretty woke

 

[dorkimoe]

"First thing I did when I woke up this morning......"

so people are made at games that make them wake up?

 

[dorkimoe]

Banning a word? Sounds pretty woke

there's another word i bet thats banned here..so the forum is already woke ! we've come full circle! neogaf IS woke!

 

[John Bilbo]

there's another word i bet thats banned here..so the forum is already woke ! we've come full circle! neogaf IS woke!

Time to make a thread.

 

[dorkimoe]

Time to make a thread.

 

[Topher]

there's another word i bet thats banned here..so the forum is already woke ! we've come full circle! neogaf IS woke!

What word is that?

Spoiler

 

[viveks86]

there's another word i bet thats banned here..so the forum is already woke ! we've come full circle! neogaf IS woke!

Right. Because what this forum does to woke people is comparable to slavery…

People need to grow a thick skin. If it's any comfort, I'm kinda woke too and this beauty is my Waifu. Deal with it.

 

[WX3]

Dude probably registered a new account and is happily posting once again! The power of GAF is too strong.

 

[KanKamAndNob]

I hate that people started hating Sony's games for the wrong reasons...

the bad game design was seemingly totally fine, but the moment they were seen as too woke people finally hated them, just like I do...

so I am happy they are getting hate, cuz they're badly designed AAA slop... but sad that no-one hates them for the right reasons

 

[Bernardougf]

I hate that people started hating Sony's games for the wrong reasons...

the bad game design was seemingly totally fine, but the moment they were seen as too woke people finally hated them, just like I do...

so I am happy they are getting hate, cuz they're badly designed AAA slop... but sad that no-one hates them for the right reasons

Theres no "right" reason to hate any product ... there's just reasons

 

[Bernardougf]

, I'm kinda woke too and this beauty is my Waifu. Deal with it.

Neil ?

 

[kevboard]

Theres no "right" reason to hate any product ... there's just reasons

nah, people who now hate on these games defended them only a few years ago when the anti-woke wave wasn't as high as it is now, mainly due to platform fanboyism reasons.

you call out how shallow and badly designed those slow walking ridden, puzzle spoiler infested, fake game mechanic laden, and context sensitivity infused trash games like Horizon Forbidden West are... and people would defend them and their trash design because AAA fanboys love their games that require not a single independent thought by the player and just play themselves half the time.

but I don't wanna go off on a tangent here... but suffice to say, FUCK those games! Uncharted, Horizon, GoW Ragnarök, Spider-Man 2... all trash, one after the other worse than the one before.
they are the Transfomers The Last Knight equivalent of game design. shiny and high production value, with zero game design substance.

 

[uncreativename]

FUCK those games! Uncharted, Horizon, GoW Ragnarök, Spider-Man 2... all trash, one after the other worse than the one before.
they are the Transfomers The Last Knight equivalent of game design. shiny and high production value, with zero game design substance.

I agree with everything else, plus I'd add God of WAr 2018, Miles Morales, and Demon's Souls Remake, but what's wrong with Uncharted?

 

[Bernardougf]

nah, people who now hate on these games defended them only a few years ago when the anti-woke wave wasn't as high as it is now, mainly due to platform fanboyism reasons.

you call out how shallow and badly designed those slow walking ridden, puzzle spoiler infested, fake game mechanic laden, and context sensitivity infused trash games like Horizon Forbidden West are... and people would defend them and their trash design because AAA fanboys love their games that require not a single independent thought by the player and just play themselves half the time.

but I don't wanna go off on a tangent here... but suffice to say, FUCK those games! Uncharted, Horizon, GoW Ragnarök, Spider-Man 2... all trash, one after the other worse than the one before.
they are the Transfomers The Last Knight equivalent of game design. shiny and high production value, with zero game design substance.

Those games were much better before it all went to shit ... Im far from a blind Sony fanboy, the quality this gen dropped from a cliff, sony games are heavily focused on story, if the stories becomes woke slop the whole game suffers.

You just dont like sony games, dont expect people retroactively to hate it too just because now they are mostly inferior sequels with woke slop.

 

[uncreativename]

Uncharted 1 is a bad, boring game , but Uncharted 2 was just so much fun, especially at the time. Uncharted 3's got some boring bits, but it does more with its characters, and then Uncharted 4 might be the best of those games? Haven't played the last one yet.

I mean sure, they could have more ambitious gameplay, and I never understood why people compared them to Indiana Jones, because the tone is completely different imo, but yeah, mostly fun good games.

 

[Bernardougf]

Uncharted 1 is a bad, boring game , but Uncharted 2 was just so much fun, especially at the time. Uncharted 3's got some boring bits, but it does more with its characters, and then Uncharted 4 might be the best of those games? Haven't played the last one yet.

I mean sure, they could have more ambitious gameplay, and I never understood why people compared them to Indiana Jones, because the tone is completely different imo, but yeah, mostly fun good games.

The story in uncharted 4 is just bad.. the game itself is very good, the MP was also fun.

Uncharted 2 and 3 are great games .. 2 is unbeatable