SniperHunter
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It looks really cool and enhances the level. More games should have fog imo
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New build of Killzone Shadow Fall shows improvements
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TheRealTalker
Banned
your not the only one when I saw the E3 build I was widely confused on the tree movements... Looked as if a typhoon was passing through
The foliage and it's reactions to the environment are much improved.
viveks86
Gold Member
LOL. Good stuff. It looks a lot more believable now. Wonder if they have tapped into some the GPGPU goodness to pull this off. In any case, I think this should go in the OP if others agree that it's an improvement.
Nice. Wish the trees could becomes fully destructible. Crysis attempted this, though I didn't find it very convincing. If done right, It could add so much to a firefight!
The Order should have some great fog.
The touchpad gestures combined with the hand motions are the best usage of the touchpad so far.
SniperHunter
Banned
I hope driveclub has this fog. Light piercing through think fog would look awesome. Game looks too plain atm
The thing is, I've actually shot many guns throughout my life and they all move a hell of a lot more than the guns in Shadow Fall do. Killzone 2 was much closer to real life. Shadow Fall will still be my first purchase for PS4, but it still doesn't look like the guns handle the way I'd prefer. It sounds like it will be better than KZ3, but - in my eyes at least - KZ2 will remain king.
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
It's weird seeing people bashing this game's gameplay as not "next gen" enough, when several of those same people are buying Ryse, Forza, or looking forward to Killer Instinct. Sounds like some sort of bias, doesn't it?
velociraptor
Junior Member
What games do you feel are worthy of buying?
Killzone 2 brought nothing new to the table yet it is one of the most polished FPS experiences you can buy.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Killzone has tight, linear levels, and you are strictly limited as to what you can climb or the location you can visit = "OMG, COD CLONE!!!11111"
Killzone has sandbox style levels with verticality, can approach objectives in any other or any way you desire, and the ability to transverse almost any area in the level with the OWL + able to climb (a lot of games tend to have this artificial barrier where you can only climb on certain objects) = "meh, not next-gen enough. It's a boring FPS."
Dragon1893
Member
I hope they fix the tearing. Other than that the game is looking really impressive.
Kenshin001
Member
I'm actually kind of glad that we have basically seen nothing of the single player. It's like all of us are going in blind and seeing all of these sure to be beautiful locations.
That being said, we will probably get a trailer soon that will spoil practically every location
Don't really care about the locations or how good the game looks. GG have always been good at graphics. Their biggest weak point is a compelling story and good writing to hold the campaign together. KZ3 was a great looking game but largely forgettable.
Why the hell would they do this? Whyyyyyyyyyy?
Mr. PlayStation
Member
I am surprised to see screen tearing in that video, none of the previous videos of shadowfall be it mp or sp had any screen tearing!
Light barely pierces thick fog (most of it gets reflected back), so if you want to try and drive through a white wall at high speeds go for it!
Possibly still optimising after the visual upgrades?
I've shot different guns but I always think scifi games get a some degree of leniency from me for the shooting mechanics. Even though they have to be a bit based on real life, otherwise I guess they might feel weird, I always think the meghanics in the gun are totally different from our reality.
I'm glad that it's not all laser/plasma/whatever based. One of the thinks i really liked in KZ2/3 is the gun feeling. They sound really nasty and powerfull.
Puny pew pew sounds of weapons in games are always very distracting and destroy the feeling of shooting a powerful weapon.
Proper DoF is great and Killzone has always done it well.
SniperHunter
Banned
I meant rolling mist you seen the video, it would look great in DC. Patches of think fog would be great as well.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
It's crunch time for these devs, right? The game should be going gold in a couple of weeks so they can start pressing copies.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Yes, I've always been lient toward sci-fi games as well. I think most gamers expect different gun mechanics from games set in the future. It would be unreasonable not to expect that, really.
Yeah, both Eric Boltjes and and Steven ter Heide have been mentioning that it's a rough crunch right now. Shu even said to them on Friday that he hoped they could go home this weekend.
Appollowexx
Member
More like the game should be going gold sometime this week.
You usually want around 3-4 weeks to make sure there have been enough copies printed and shipped to retailers for launch. I imagine it's pretty much complete by now.
SniperHunter
Banned
Yea, this game seems to be in great shape. Its just missing some effects. But DC, we haven't seen a single gameplay vid showing more than one car on screen....
By this time motorstorm had transformed into a great looking ps3 game
Appollowexx
Member
Supposedly the team at Evo recorded a new gameplay video last week so we should get some new DC footage any day now. Rushy also mentioned that they would be showing off proper races soon.
DC i do not worry about, I get to play sample the game for free, there is no risk involved on the consumers end. They dont have to show another screen shot at this point, come Nov 16th it will be the most played next gen title, and feedback will be everywhere.
KZ/BF I need to see as much as possible to decide where I put my money.
Acquiescence
Member
It's probably mental right now for every team out there working on a launch game. The amount of pressure must be brutal.
Dragon1893
Member
Definitely, especially when you're a team that is expected to deliver a technical tour de force.
BloodMoney
Banned
Yea, probably Gold in 2 weeks, then continue working at break neck speed chugging coffee like a boss to polish up a 5 gig patch on Day 1...
Day 1 patch has become standard practice (though next-gen we will see the patch size increase dramatically)
NTIETS13A_Superiority
Banned
It is fraeking future. Youd better hope guns have little to none recoil. I have fired an assault rifle and recoil is quite small anyways. Well ofcourse after one gets used to it. It is especially suprising how small foreces felt hipfireing. One would think shots would be allover the place. It was close range, but one should not hipfire full auto at longer range anyway.
Yeah the screen-tearing looks really bad. I'm not usually one to notice that sort of thing either. Won't necessarily stop me from picking it up, but it would be nice if they could fix or limit it.
I think most demos are on "do not kill the player" type difficulty, id not read into AI in public demos ever.
SniperHunter
Banned
Look at the encounter.
*Sentery walking in forest gets stabbed
*His buddy shoots the player dead and runs towards to the alarm
*then he takes out three who ate guarding the ship
*envounter in building player takes out two
I think he was playing on easy...
qa_engineer
Member
Games are often set to easy mode for demonstration purposes. Nothing turns off a reviewer or a would be consumer like getting gang banged by the helghast.
You want to showcase all aspects of the game not just what it looks like when you die or when 500 smg rounds are directed at you. You want the gamer to be able to navigate, fire their weapon, and take in the scenery.
VRAM =/= RAM. Semantics are important in the IT field. He said RAM, I laughed. I know it's hard to understand but that was the point I've been trying to get across several times. I know very, VERY well what the fuck triple buffering is, what it does and how it works.
Schrade
Member
Killzone 2 had the best AI I had seen to date in an FPS game as long as you didn't set it on "Mommy hold my hand!" mode.
As people have already stated, most of the time that you see videos from shows you can be sure that the mode was set to Easy.
yes they teased these in KZ Mercs. Level design seems open
the levels seem gigantic
Sweet! I'd love for an FPS game to return to the mission structure of GoldenEye/Perfect Dark.
Sandy Nipples
Banned
Going BF4 on PS4 for that awesome, awesome 64 player MP. Definitely getting Killzone because of exclusivity, SP, and being able to experience first hand what this machine is capable of.
Not sure if new thread worthy:
geoffkeighley: Get ready @playstation Nation! Massive Killzone: Shadow Fall PS4 campaign blow-out on this Thursday's GTTV from Guerrilla in Amsterdam
https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/390150176402202624
geoffkeighley: Get ready @playstation Nation! Massive Killzone: Shadow Fall PS4 campaign blow-out on this Thursday's GTTV from Guerrilla in Amsterdam
https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/390150176402202624
SniperHunter
Banned
spoilers and gifs incoming!!
SniperHunter
Banned
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MeBecomingI
Member
Don't look too much into it. Everyone said the same about Killzone Mercenary when it was being demoed everywhere and then the game came out and on higher difficulties, the A.I is fantastic. Floor demos are rarely a good metric for how the A.I will perform.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
When are we FINALLY going to see a new level?
What is this game? 3 levels long? Come on!
What is this game? 3 levels long? Come on!
The game is seven weeks away, there's plenty of time for them to show more.
Personally, I have no issues with not seeing too much of the game. Too many games leave little to discover after their marketing push.
Four weeks. Killzone Shadow Fall will be present on the PS4 launch in the United States on November 15.