rayman1900
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If it's done well I have no problem with it. Would like to see the Nomura's take on what constitute a good stealth section in a game not made for stealth.
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New Final Fantasy VII Remake Gameplay Screenshot
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enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
I have to agree with the people saying 11 and 14 aren't really mainline FF games, the online only kills that (and lack of iconic characters and traditional story).
Bravely Default and Bravely Second: End Layer are more true Final Fantasy games than those.
Bravely Default and Bravely Second: End Layer are more true Final Fantasy games than those.
DiipuSurotu
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Tabata must have been like: "Hey Nomura, definitely put a stealth section in Remake! Make it very long, the fans will love it!"
Yeah that makes sense. I wouldn't want my grenades to hurt allies so I'm glad.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Stealth , almost friendly fire Tabata and Nomura are closer than we think lol
peronmls
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Because the HUD? The command menu idea came from Kingdom Hearts.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
LOL Square doesn't always get it right themselves and there is proof of that.
They renamed FF4 and FF6 as FF2 and FF3 in the West originally, and they renamed a bunch of Saga games as "Final Fantasy Adventure" on the Game Boy so even they don't seem to know which games go where.
LOL Square doesn't always get it right themselves and there is proof of that.
They renamed FF4 and FF6 as FF2 and FF3 in the West originally, and they renamed a bunch of Saga games as "Final Fantasy Adventure" on the Game Boy so even they don't seem to know which games go where.
Their original numbering is what matters here, not the silly marketing decisions they made.
DiipuSurotu
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LOL Square doesn't always get it right themselves and there is proof of that.
They renamed FF4 and FF6 as FF2 and FF3 in the West originally, and they renamed a bunch of Saga games as "Final Fantasy Adventure" on the Game Boy so even they don't seem to know which games go where.
That has nothing to do with getting it right or wrong or whatever. But hey, keep moving the goalposts.
FF4 and FF6 were renamed FF2 and FF3 in the West because they were the second and the third FF games released there. And the Saga games were never renamed FF Adventure so it seems pretty clear that you're the one who don't have a clue what you're talking about.
LOL Square doesn't always get it right themselves and there is proof of that.
They renamed FF4 and FF6 as FF2 and FF3 in the West originally, and they renamed a bunch of Saga games as "Final Fantasy Adventure" on the Game Boy so even they don't seem to know which games go where.
This is only in the west pre-00's, in the last decade they corrected this in the west.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Whoops I meant the Saga games were renamed as Final Fantasy LEGEND (1, 2 and 3) and most people didn't even realize they weren't "real" Final Fantasy games until years later.
My point stands.
Lol, no it doesn't.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
What are your thoughts on Bravely Default and Bravely Second: End Layer? FF or no?
(don't forget BD started development as a sequel to Final Fantasy: 4 Heroes of Light)
Nothing to do with your argument.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
XI and XIV are mainline but I can see why someone would be upset about that.
Making MMOs numbered entries in an established franchise never sat right with me either.
Making MMOs numbered entries in an established franchise never sat right with me either.
ArkhamFantasy
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Summer 2014. We arent sure how many people have been working on it though, CC2 isnt that big of a studio and they have multiple projects in development.
notacat
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CC2? FF 7 remake is being done by a studio outside of Squaresoft? I mean, Square-Enix?
*eats cup noodles frantically*
LOL Square doesn't always get it right themselves and there is proof of that.
They renamed FF4 and FF6 as FF2 and FF3 in the West originally, and they renamed a bunch of Saga games as "Final Fantasy Adventure" on the Game Boy so even they don't seem to know which games go where.
Amazing.
There seems to be a sizeable team internally working on it (in SE Business Division 1) but a large amount if not most of it is being done by CyberConnect2 (and other smaller outsource studios as is common for AAA games).
notacat
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Cool beans, I had no idea.
You might notice that the mainline titles stayed mainline titles regardless of region, so your argument is poor and doesn't support your assessment at all.
You tried, but of course you didn't fall in water, you fell flat on your face in concrete.
Although you're fully entitled to your opinion, I'd personally consider that a bad thing for this game. I don't want XV's combat system for this game. It deserves to be more fun than that and less heavy. I don't exactly what Kingdom Hearts floating and spinning in the air bull crap either.
Unless you were talking about the graphics, I kind of see what you're saying.
I've got a bad feeling we won't be able to fly around the entire world map
Will happily be proven wrong.
There's no point in fretting over it right now. We won't find out if we can or can't until the Playstation 6 comes out, at least.
Dwight Schrute
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After hating ff15 (anything from Altissia and going on), I doubt I will buy this. I fear they might take too much "inspiration".
Ohh boy, can't wait ta see what they do with the stealth section thats already in the game (Floor 60 of the Shinra HQ)!
I've got a bad feeling we won't be able to fly around the entire world map
Will happily be proven wrong.
I remember back from the VersusXIII days a comment that Nomura had toyed with the avatar and world map structure but didn't like how it turned out on modern games. Could well see if ditched for this.
i sincerely hate the fact that some people have very arbitrary definitions of things.
"FF11 and 14 are not numbered games even though they are because they don't have these very specific things, these JRPG's are not JRPG's because they don't have this very specific checklist of things that don't matter"
You can't really say that right now.
They are completely different teams. Furthermore, FF7R's DNA by default will be atleast partially similar to FF15 due to sharing the same original creative visionaries, certain concepts will be shared.
But the execution and how those certain things are implemented differently are what makes all the difference in addition to all the things that are not similar at all
Don't worry, CC2 is a top tier dev house.
"FF11 and 14 are not numbered games even though they are because they don't have these very specific things, these JRPG's are not JRPG's because they don't have this very specific checklist of things that don't matter"
You can't really say that right now.
They are completely different teams. Furthermore, FF7R's DNA by default will be atleast partially similar to FF15 due to sharing the same original creative visionaries, certain concepts will be shared.
But the execution and how those certain things are implemented differently are what makes all the difference in addition to all the things that are not similar at all
Don't worry, CC2 is a top tier dev house.
Man I forgot about the Magic friendly fire in XV.
God,XV sucked.
But maybe they learned some lessons of what not to do because of it.
ArkhamFantasy
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Aside from high production values i dont see what the games have in common.
The Last One
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Let's just hope that Nomura can finish the game before being replaced again.
It's the Xbone version
ArkhamFantasy
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Thankfully alot of the issues plaguing Versus XIIIs development are no longer an issue.
Square knows how to make HD games now, they have a great engine, they dont have to deal with the Cell, and i dont think CC2 is going to stop working on Versus to go work on XIII sequels or XIV lol.
That's with he assumption that he is directly to blame for FFVersus or 15's troubles and not what a clusterfuck SE has been.
Atleast for Versus 13, we obviously know they didn't even ship any games for the latter half of last gen entirely on console outside of lightning trilogy, so the dev situation in general was fucked
The Last One
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I hope you're right, but KH III is already taking too long.
Of course it wasn't his fault, but he was replaced anyway.
ArkhamFantasy
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2 of those problems did apply to KH3 though, Osaka team never made an HD game before and they were using luminous when the luminous devs were far away and couldnt help them.
The Last One
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Yeah, this sucks. But this is already a mismanagement in Square's part.
i'd rather them develop the game for longer than rush it out and have a FF15 situation where the game feels half made. i think we're going to have to get used to the idea that these games in SE's cycle will take until we're 90 to finish
Ya know, I'm actually really stoked to see what the stealth elements are like in this. It'll be neat to actually infiltrate the reactor. Always felt kind of easy to get in.
Let the game cook as long as it needs to.
True facts
Let the game cook as long as it needs to.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Bumping the thread with some (useless) info, but hey, I'm looking at these every day because of hype and... yeah, I realized that the circles definitely indicates special moves from bosses - in this case Guard Scorpion's tail laser.
No.
Parts of the story are separate games entirely. they are not cutting a single game into multiple pieces.
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