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New GTA:SA Screens
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Good point, I guess. I've just been surprised that every screen released, with the batches getting larger and larger, have been of the same type. I understand that the environments change later in the game, but I don't see much reason to think the subject matter will.Sal Paradise Jr said:
I'm getting the impression that this game will be MUCH bigger and more diverse than either GTA3 or VC--they've had two entire years to build up the game engine, and there's no way to fill up 3 entire cities with early '90's hip-hop culture.
I think the game could really benefit from more undercover-type missions: allow your protagonist to become a casino kingpin, a clean-cut pimp, or a mafia-style businessman.
I think the game could really benefit from more undercover-type missions: allow your protagonist to become a casino kingpin, a clean-cut pimp, or a mafia-style businessman.
Looks wicked.
People who don't like this, and won't like this, are narrow-minded. Simple as that. They'll admit it. No need for debate. It's a part of life, there are narrow-minded people everywhere.
That said, this game has the potential of selling millions of copies like it's predecessors. Most people will dig it, if previous sales are anything to go by.
People who don't like this, and won't like this, are narrow-minded. Simple as that. They'll admit it. No need for debate. It's a part of life, there are narrow-minded people everywhere.
That said, this game has the potential of selling millions of copies like it's predecessors. Most people will dig it, if previous sales are anything to go by.
Korranator
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^^^I'd imagine that a lemming would be an expert on all things about "narrow-minded people"...
SolidSnakex
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Pimpbaa said:
I think they know they can't do that again. Although they don't have much to worry about much since there's no game that's going to take it's place. Driv3r had the best chance, but after reading bishop and some others impressions on it they don't have to worry about that at all.
I agree, lemmings don't think for themselves, thus could be considered narrow-minded.
But don't try to imply that the millions of people who bought GTA are lemmings. If you look at the best selling games, they buy it because it appeals to them. The narrow-mindedness comes into the equation when people refrain from playing games because they don't care to learn about it's appeal. Ie. I claim that I don't want to play Tech Romancer because it has robots and robots are geeky. That's a narrow-minded approach that ignores the appeal of the game.
The bugs issue has to be addressed, but it's completely understandable considering the scope of the game. I agree though, the obvious bugs (like losing health when running) can't be tolerated.
Korranator
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I never implied such a thing. However, don't call people who have lost interest in the series "narrow-minded people". When in fact they are familar with the series.
Your analogy is flawed since the people like me in this thread who have lost interest in the series, are familar with the series and have played a number of it's games.
GTA3 - kicked ass
VC - more of the same, got boring
SA - what the point? It's still the SAME GAMEPLAY
If you are still interested in playing the same game over and over with new settings, then you are a lemming who is attched to a name brand.
Thank you, Captain Obvious...
SolidSnakex
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"SA - what the point? It's still the SAME GAMEPLAY"
Have you actually kept up with this game? Because with the released info so far it's in no way the same gameplay. Just check out that site that was linked to on the first page.
Have you actually kept up with this game? Because with the released info so far it's in no way the same gameplay. Just check out that site that was linked to on the first page.
this thread is sad...
I'm picking this game up on release because I like GTA games...
and yeah...it's a bit odd how many people looked forward to GTA:SA until the pics came out...but at the same time...also how many people are quick to brand them racist
only the MAJORITY of them are :b
I'm picking this game up on release because I like GTA games...
and yeah...it's a bit odd how many people looked forward to GTA:SA until the pics came out...but at the same time...also how many people are quick to brand them racist
only the MAJORITY of them are :b
Ive never actually played any of the GTA games but the theme of the game never appealed to me at all. When GTA3 became so big because of the controversial content it kinda got me interested and I was very close to buying it but I could never find it cheap and I had stopped renting long before that. By the time it was in the bargain bins I had lost all interest in the game.
If I were given the game as a gift or something Im sure I would play it to see what all the hype was/is about but it doesnt seem like something I would want to spend money on.
Did anyone that got hooked on the series not have any real interest in the game until they actually played it?
Unless there happens to be something Im not seeing in vids or pics or reading in reviews of the game it seems to me like the actual gameplay would get old really fast.
Finally the graphics whore in me just says stay away.
I can see how it became such a big hit on the PS2 cause once the hype started it was just a matter of a huge userbase renting or borrowing the game from a friend to get them hooked.
If I were given the game as a gift or something Im sure I would play it to see what all the hype was/is about but it doesnt seem like something I would want to spend money on.
Did anyone that got hooked on the series not have any real interest in the game until they actually played it?
Unless there happens to be something Im not seeing in vids or pics or reading in reviews of the game it seems to me like the actual gameplay would get old really fast.
Finally the graphics whore in me just says stay away.
I can see how it became such a big hit on the PS2 cause once the hype started it was just a matter of a huge userbase renting or borrowing the game from a friend to get them hooked.
SolidSnakex
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belgurdo said:
It's no use, some people just believe the only reason the series ever got popular is because of it's violence. Yet they never can expain why even more violent games haven't recieved the same amount of success.
SolidSnakex said:
you mean to tell me the fact that you could run around and jack peoples cars and mindlessly and randomly kick peoples asses in the game was in no way a factor in why the game became so hyped? if so then why did it seem to be the impression that was left on me when i never went out of my way to really look up info on the game?
Ive read a few times about the humor in game being a reason why game is fun or how the music adds to the appeal or how open the game was to exploration but it doesnt seem like those have ever been discussed as the huge selling points of the game and it sure as hell wasnt the graphics.
hgplayer1 said:
cute.
you know...you answered your own question there: you never went out of your way to look into the game...the only things about the game you even remember hearing about were things that furthered your incorrect pre-conception of it
to put that in simple terms: you are ignorant (optional: to the game's true appeal)
Meh @ these additions they dont seem like anything that great but im sure its still fun.
Cant wait for next Gen GTA though, hopefully they can put the extra processing power into creating a living economy full of people with real responsibilities rather than annonymous NPCs who walk the same street for the length of the game and a game world you cant really affect without it being a scripted event.
Cant wait for next Gen GTA though, hopefully they can put the extra processing power into creating a living economy full of people with real responsibilities rather than annonymous NPCs who walk the same street for the length of the game and a game world you cant really affect without it being a scripted event.
great/good story, great voice acting, huge level of player freedom, and [3=decent, VC=great] atmosphere are there 
really, the only way you can find out if you'll like the games are to just play them...i personally though GTA3 would have been the biggest waste of a franchise name till i played it
really, the only way you can find out if you'll like the games are to just play them...i personally though GTA3 would have been the biggest waste of a franchise name till i played it
Korranator
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http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=838Dekajelly said:What games do you play then?
Gattsu25 said:great/good story, great voice acting, huge level of player freedom, and [3=decent, VC=great] atmosphere are there
really, the only way you can find out if you'll like the games are to just play them...i personally though GTA3 would have been the biggest waste of a franchise name till i played it
fair enough Ill reserve any further comments until I ever get the chance to play the game.
robertsan21
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Nice pics ,looks like menece to society
Malakhov said:
You can now swim, you can change your physical appearance by eating, working out, excercising, from normal, to either skinny, ripped or fat, which will affect your stamina and strength in some way. Pedestrians now react in certain way to your appearance and actions. Gangs, enemies and alliances are now determined by your actions. You can now break into homes. There are now large countrysides and deserts in between cities, so it's no longer just a long bridge drive from place to place.
That's the only known improvements, or changes so far.
Malakhov said:
Off the top of my head...
An evolved shooting system with more intelligent targetting.
"Squad" mechanics introduced with the Orange Grove Families gang.
Robberies which require surveillance and planning.
A completely overhauled driving engine with smarter AI, promising more realistic chases.
New First-Person segments.
Swimming and manual vehicles.
Sim portion now includes a truly in-depth property system and character customization.
And realize, all the information we've received so far has been restricted to the Los Angeles Hood segment of the game, which is said to be "15%" of the total package. I imagine San Fran, Hollywood, Vegas, Countryside, and Mountain will introduce objectives and mini-games unique to San Andreas.
When have I ever addressed those who "have lost interest in the series"? Never.
You've missed the point entirely.
For your benefit, I'll spell it out for you. I am referring to those who automatically dislike the game because of some of the subject matter. In this particular case, those who dismiss this game because 1) it may feature rap music or 2) it deals with Black youth and culture
Refer to my analogy, if I claimed that I don't want to play Tech Romancer because it has robots, and robots are geeky, then that is a narrow-minded approach to the game.
There's nothing to debate here. I simply made an observation, I didn't share my opinion. I'm not saying the it's a narrow-minded POV because I think so, it's because it IS so.
Hey, I accept it. Just as some people claim that Zelda is for kiddies, and that first person shooters should only belong on the PC, I accept the fact that some people will be narrow-minded when judging this game, and they'll prejudge it before even trying it out...it's been like this since they days of Pong. All I wanted to do in this thread was point it out...so we can just move on and not focus discussion on that.
If you really want to disagree with what I'm saying, PM me, rather than filling this thread with more unrelated stuff.
That first addition alone is extremely interesting and innovative. Maybe I'm being biased, but to me it seems like this series is expanding and improving in so many ways with each sequel, moreso than any other series that I can think of.
Malakhov said:
Off the top of my head:
- San Andreas is a state, not a city. There's three cities in the game, separated by countrysides and mountains. (fictional SF, LA, LV)
- you can own and operate casinos, and gamble in those owned by others
- you can swim, and it's based on stamina (ie if you are fatter you'd have a harder time getting out of a sinking car)
- bikes, wheelis on bikes
- get fat, change hair styles, NPC reacts accordingly
- engine capable of twice the draw distance of vice city, improved graphics, load times only for interior locations and not between cities
- takes a full minute from the bottom to the peak of a mountain on a helicopter. it'll take much longer with a bike
- motorcycle cops
- much improved pedastrian and cop AI, cops jump on to the hood of your vehicles, etc
- house robbery, requires actual planning and strategies
- recruit gang members and perform 4 ppl drive bys
- use the shadow like in Manhunt, so for missions, you can go Rambo style or be stealthy, adding a lot more variety to the missions
- San Ferrio will have a lot of hills, with driving being the emphasis on that part of the city
- The countryside is very refreshing to drive through. It has rolling fields, farms, rivers, forests, deserts, and hills
- Stamina Meter. Carl will have to consume food on his journey across San Andreas, and will gain weight if he eats too much. Gyms will be available to work out in.
- Overhauled targeting and camera systems
- rag doll physics
- "The game is now more sharp, with weather effects and more crammed special touches than thought possible. Rockstar has borrowed a bit from Manhunt with the new lighting. Now you can see gang members in dark alleys and you can use the shadows yourself to hide under a bridge, watch an enemy run past, then leap out and jump him."
Korranator
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OK, my fault. I jumped to conclusions.
Carry on...
Ninja Scooter
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jett said:All those changes sound really nice...but the fact that the game comes in a DVD9 makes me a little weary. Lately I've been having some problems with my PS2.
GTA SA is finally gonna put that Circuit City extended warrenty to good use.
SolidSnakex
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hgplayer1 said:
Ofcourse the violence has something to do with it, it's just not completely why it's succesful. The biggest reason is because of it's freedom. It's one of the very few games that you can just pick up and play without ever really having to do any set mission. There's plenty of stuff to do around the city to keep you busy without ever even having to do a mission. The freedom just has more to do with it than anything. There have been other free roam games like GTA (The Getaway, True Crime for example) that offer the same level of violence that you mentioned but neither are as popular. The one main different between those 2 and GTA is that GTA offers much more freedom than those do.
andthebeatgoeson
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SolidSnakex said:
What he said. I played about 3 hours today of just the Brown Hunter missions after completing the game about a month ago. Just fuckin around and listening to the stations. I'll be looking forward to SA just because of the variety of 'side quests' that have nothing to do with the story. Want to drive a cab? sure. How about the fire engine missions or ambulance missions? Fly a helicopter? sure. Race a dirt bike or stock car? why the fuck not. Snipe some sea gulls? got nothing better to do. Or see how long you can go with a six star rating? shit, it's saturday, why not. How about the different ways to jack a tank. Either raise your wanted level, or steal a policeman's outfit or just run into the base dodging M16 fire and steal one. I used to hate on these games so much but at the heart of it is great gameplay. The same gameplay but good nonetheless. But SA will be better with what could be a new empire building aspect to it. I'm dying to see what it'll be like to own an empire of buisnesses in the valley and a casino in Vegas and the taxi cab company in SF. And I'm excited that they recognize the Vice City was the lesser developed city.
The Faceless Master
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wait a minute, 'Carl Johnson' can swim?
FAKE GAME
FAKE GAME
TheGreenGiant
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The REAL problem is that black people ain't as cool as white/Italians perception wise. When you think white/Italian criminals; there is an aura of yeah.. the cool factor. Black people; you'd associate with slums and ghettos, pimps, druggies and all the really negative associations (WHICH they've been dealt an unfair hand with). Mention Harlem and nothing really good comes out in relationship to the area. Racial stereotypes are deeply ingrained IMO. White america will find it hard to deal with the theme. I personally can't watch black porn. GTA SA sounds like something I won't be able to get into. (But then I wasn't too impressed with GTA to go run out and buy VC).
I think once word gets out about the setting. This game won't sell that well. (DID DEF JAM sell well?) Fact that Manhunt sold like crap is also indicative that maybe the lustre on violent games is wearing out.
I think once word gets out about the setting. This game won't sell that well. (DID DEF JAM sell well?) Fact that Manhunt sold like crap is also indicative that maybe the lustre on violent games is wearing out.
SolidSnakex
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"When you think white/Italian criminals; there is an aura of yeah.. the cool factor."
And there's none of that with black people? Have you seen how much influence hip hop has on popular culture?
"I personally can't watch black porn"
Seriously WTF? I can't even figure out what that'd even have to do with SA in any way.
The people that might complain about this crap will still buy the game. It'll be too difficult to ignore it if it turns out as well as it's sounding. They'll get it and realise that *gasp* changing a persons skin doesn't make the game any less fun. I hope all this complaining doesn't make them rethink doing GTA Tokyo because some people are too scared to play with a character that isn't white.
And there's none of that with black people? Have you seen how much influence hip hop has on popular culture?
"I personally can't watch black porn"
Seriously WTF? I can't even figure out what that'd even have to do with SA in any way.
The people that might complain about this crap will still buy the game. It'll be too difficult to ignore it if it turns out as well as it's sounding. They'll get it and realise that *gasp* changing a persons skin doesn't make the game any less fun. I hope all this complaining doesn't make them rethink doing GTA Tokyo because some people are too scared to play with a character that isn't white.
I'm sure the game will go beyond that as the player advances, perhaps getting deeper underground and involving more organized/respectable crime groups. I know I'd be eventually grow tired if the entire game took place in a stereotypical ghetto setting and you dealt only with minority groups, just because of the lack of variety.
Personally, I'd just love to be able to put the main character in an Armani suit and go Belly on everybody. Bruthas in suits are stylish.
robertsan21
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now that is what cool is all about.
if you can become a Pimp and hustle your way thru the game then that will be the best game ever IMO
enough already with the maffia, bring me pimps,drugdealers and gangsta´s !!!
if what solid snakex said is true that the game will feature all those stuff then man this game will become GOTY
Scalemail Ted
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HAHAHA...
Now you guys know how I feel.
GTA:SA; the new Celda debate.
I still say cel shaded Link kicks all flavors of ass...and they should of maintained that artstyle.
Now you guys know how I feel.
GTA:SA; the new Celda debate.
I still say cel shaded Link kicks all flavors of ass...and they should of maintained that artstyle.
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