Meccanical
Member
There is zero proof they've done anything but.
-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
New Hitman: Absolution trailer [By Visual Works (Final Fantasy CG), out now]
- Thread starter Loudninja
- Start date
Which was great, because it meant you had options. Dropping stuff on people was fun, but so was watching some dumb schmuck pick up a live mine that you could still detonate and use as a distraction.
It is, but ultimately it's just another environmental tool for you to mess with. The ones that are actually big bright red barrels a little earlier in the trailer worry me more.
Stuff like this was great. Shooting out the bottom of the glass pool was another high visibility, high entertainment solution I loved. And that's really what the Hitman experience comes down to for me. Playing the silent assassin is all well and good, but when the designers give you so many tools and the fundamental goal is simply "don't get caught", then yeah, I'm probably going to cause a little havoc on my way. It's not unlike Deus Ex in that regard, just without the superhuman abilities and robots.I did like tweaking the BBQ grill in Blood Money causing it to explode when used though. It wasn't silent but it was stealthy
MMaRsu
Member
If you have only watched the trailer, what would you think about this game?
And also, what did you find well done about the trailer itself? It's cg, it can always be nice looking.
Highly enjoyed playing the Sniper Challenge. The gameplay trailer displays just what is needed for a new Hitman game in 2012.
Anyway, Certain morons will buy it regardless, so long as it gets a high Metacritic (after making a stink about how much they hate how this industry is beholden to Metacritic and metrics, of course). Lack of willpower is displayed through this childish flailing against marketing. As though it's not effective. Consumerist whores that don't realize they're consumerist whores. Shame.
When is the release date?
Anyway, Certain morons will buy it regardless, so long as it gets a high Metacritic (after making a stink about how much they hate how this industry is beholden to Metacritic and metrics, of course). Lack of willpower is displayed through this childish flailing against marketing. As though it's not effective. Consumerist whores that don't realize they're consumerist whores. Shame.
When is the release date?
dummydecoy
Member
Why do you care so much how someone might play a game? I don't get it. I never fired a gun in my first HR playthrough-half, wen't gun blazing from then on from time to time just because it's fun and diverse. How dare them add options.
Meccanical
Member
Blur/Digital Domain > Visual Works.
Blur trailers are awful.
As I keep saying in the stealth thread when there's too many options for non stealth stuff you get bad or mediocre stealth games. Human Revolution included. Choice is not a good thing in this regard. There should be 100 different choices for how to stealthily accomplish your goal, but good shooting mechanics and shooting at all really shouldn't be an option. Or a good option at least, they should make it where you're swarmed by dozens of people at the slightest alarm for punishment of exposing yourself.
Meccanical
Member
But it was a game about being a Hitman and performing hits.
MMaRsu
Member
Because they havent shown the CORE gameplay.
The core gameplay was shown in trailers, but I suspect you are talking about big open levels?
Well, yeah, but we have no diea how big those missions were we only saw a glimpse of.
He stopped doing that?
The point is that we have seen nothing like the first level in Hitman 2 (Anathema, I think) or the suburbia mission in Blood Money, the missions that I remember most when I think of Hitman. All we've seen gameplay wise is 47 taking out police one by one in a dilapidated building, and trailer wise we get hot battle nuns.
Again, if this is just the marketing root they're taking, I'll admit I was wrong and play the shit out of the game, but to not show anything like the aforementioned levels doesn't really inspire hope for me.
They're doing the suburban home holding a birthday party thing again to a T.
bigboss370
Member
Meccanical
Member
It's one third of the stealth trinity to me at least (Splinter Cell and Thief the others). It was a different kind of stealth, hiding in open, but it was still stealth. And the shooting was always janky and terrible and you were punished a bit for going all out.
Oh yeah the shooting was absoluteley terrible. Good thing they make it better. It's not that it turns it into a shooter since there will still be limited ammo and places where shooting might be too dangerous.
Guy said he only saw the cop video, bigboss helps him out posting a video that shows more stuff. No need to react like that.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
I almost hate to say it but ... i kind of liked this. The nose break and human shield were especially shweeet.
Whatever. I'll play this because i'm a sucker.
Whatever. I'll play this because i'm a sucker.
Ventilaator
Banned
The only people in that scene are two bad guys and he proceeds to murder one of them. The only way you can compare it to that mission in Blood Money is if you haven't played Blood Money.
The sniper challenge they put out answers this perfectly. Your entire point is to take out a high profile target.
The portion of the trailer about dragging bodies and melee kills does feature people dying, yes. It's cut to show off game mechanics. The point was that they are in fact still doing some of the unusual locations the series is known for. I hope this one in particular doesn't play out exactly the same as the one in Blood Money, or I might as well just play Blood Money.
Ventilaator
Banned
My point wasn't about people getting dead, it was about the fact that there's only two people there. That makes it kind of the opposite of a good example of Absolution having any Hitman gameplay in it.
For fuck's sake people, this is what a Hitman level looks like. There are people there. It's not about killing them or not because stealth and choices, they are just people. All they've shown us so far are rooms of people you have to deal with in some manner. That's Splinter Cell, fans are expecting Hitman.
Meccanical
Member
That's nice they did that for a minigame, now how about the main game.
I am sure you do kill high profile targets in this game. That's not even a good question.
He avoided those cops just fine by being dressed up like one in one part of that trailer - no idea what you are arguing with.
Electivirus
Member
Oh wow, that was incredibly impressive. I'm not a Hitman fan, but this trailer certainly piqued my interest. Gotta love that Visual Works.
Meccanical
Member
Than why do I not see this happening anywhere.
You want them to spoiler a mission target in the game?
Do you honestly think that they made their engine able to handle large crowds if they weren't planning on having a lot of people in certain scenarios. The Junkies could be ignored in the game reveal even.
Did you even watch the trailer?
Not to mention that they showed 47 uses disguises in the game reveal.
Ventilaator
Banned
In the gameplay demonstration they showed exactly how he got there and it was pretty much a straight corridor from the library to the police station. That's where he got the cop clothes from - the library scene we've all seen. Which kind of means you are forced to wear the cop clothes to even proceed.
bigboss370
Member
considering the ratings and likes its getting on facebook/twitter and gametrailers, i'd say the hating is most vocal on gaf.
1:32-1:37 we see him walk through a crowd normally, is that what you're referring to? and as for your forced to disguise to proceed statement...you had to do that throughout Blood Money as well or you're fucked.
He got the cop clothes from a dead cop. So theoratically he could have used any cop to get a uniform at any time. But hey the trailer did show it otherwise. It's like people know what Hitman is but they seem to forget it watching the trailers. None of the trailers will show how you want the game to be played. I seriously hope IO has some nice walkthroughs of the game at E3 because everyone seems to need extra service here.
Sorry for getting angry, but it's maddening.
Is this what you want to see then? Because if you have seen that video then I don't understand how you can say that they haven't shown crowds yet, unless you have just selectively not paid attention to parts of videos to reenforce your opinion.
Well I guess if the FB, GT and youtube like it it's gotta be good, right?
No.and unlike Square CG shit, Blur trailers most of the time reflect/or give hints about how the game will actually play (like Dishonored and Prey 2) they most likely make their CG trailers based on some gameplay footage they got from the devs, and that why they are awesome.
Deus Ex CG trailer had a lot of moments and dialogue from the actual game, as does the Tomb Raider CG if the sequence itself hasn't changed.
Wow that's so different from parts of Blood Money...
Wow that's so different from parts of Blood Money...
GrimReaper
Member
rollingstart
Banned
This should be part 1 of a two part trailer.
Part 2 is an alternate approach. After he hotel explodes we see 47, in wig and latex nun getup, blending in with the other nuns. They all get in a car and drive away believing 47 dead.
Part 2 is an alternate approach. After he hotel explodes we see 47, in wig and latex nun getup, blending in with the other nuns. They all get in a car and drive away believing 47 dead.
Deus EX trailers says hi.
bigboss370
Member
i don't see how you took that from my response....at all. i was replying to someone who hoped it was IO releasing the trailer to be purposefully ludicrous and infamous.
Yeah, no civilians anywhere to be seen.
edit: Beaten twice. You can cherry pick plenty of areas from Blood Money that consist of guards and little else. I'm going to assume that they're showing those off more because that's the sort of situation you generally end up killing people in, and they want to show off the killing in a game called Hitman. We've seen civilians, we're seen hostiles, and I'll be astonished if they aren't mixed together in various ways throughout the game.
Ventilaator
Banned
Few second clip in a trailer. There's no way to tell what context that appears in-game. Is he following a target? Cool. Is he walking a linear path (with the people being walls on both sides) to a next library-scenario? I don't know.
Just show me a 30 second clip of him in that crowd climbing into a higher position and sniping a dude. All it would take for me, because at that point it would be easy to assume that following the guy on foot leads into more opportunities and done, Hitman game made.
wat? that's not a cutscene. That's 100% sure gameplay.