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[cormack12]

It should be mentioned that kopite7kimi is probably the most reliable person when it comes to Nvidia rumours considering that kopite7kimi was almost completely spot on when it comes to the specs of the Ampere GPUs months before it was officially announced by Nvidia.

Black Knight seems to fit in with Nvidia's naming scheme, considering the codenames for all of the automotive SoCs are named after fictional superheroes in the DC Comics (Xavier, Orin) whilst the codenames for all of the mobile SoCs after the Tegra 4 are named after superheroes in the Marvel Comics (Logan, Erista, Mariko, Parker, Black Knight). (Charles Xavier is technically a superhero in the DC Comics and the Marvel Comics via Doctor Strangefate in the Amalgam Comics since DC Comics and Marvel Comics are the parent companies of the Amalgam Comics).

 

[TLZ]

So it looks like they're probably revealing this closer to whenever they release it. Like the Lite and Switch before it.

 

[VN1X]

Wow very interesting. But will it run videogames though?

 

[jaysius]

I'm not sure what's more pathetic, these rumors or that blue box shit. The switch pro is such an insane rumor that never dies.

I'm sure it'll exist... at some point.

 

[Tangerine]

Sometimes a company will 'leak' a fake story to a select group or individual employee, in order to narrow down or outright find out who the leaker(s) are.

I wonder if that's what happened with the wall street journal saying the switch pro would be revealed before E3?

 

[prinz_valium]

No way. To good to be true

 

[martino]

edit: i'm ready for whatever improve current situation even if not by much

 

[Nickolaidas]

Come on, Nintendo ... reveal it already!

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

A 3050?

On a Nintendo Platform?

Hell no. No way. That’s bigger than a series S.

Not happening.

 

[tkscz]

While I don't doubt nVidia would just slap a "custom" Orin SoC in it and call it a day (custom being just lowering clock speeds for less battery use) something like this still wouldn't be an upgraded variant of the Switch, but more of a successor. More DS to 3DS than 3DS to N3DS.

If the previous rumors are to be taken into account, that the GPU runs at 1024MHz in handheld mode, then this thing would run at ~4TFs. That's a significant jump from Switch's ~300GFs.

A 3050?

On a Nintendo Platform?

Hell no. No way. That’s bigger than a series S.

Not happening.

This is less Nintendo and more nVidia. Plus I wouldn't equate it to a 3050. That would still use GDDR6 RAM while this would more likely use LPDDR5 and run at a MUCH slower rate. An under clocked 3050 would be a closer idea, like the OG Switch is an under clocked GT750.

 

[FingerBang]

While I don't doubt nVidia would just slap a "custom" Orin SoC in it and call it a day (custom being just lowering clock speeds for less battery use) something like this still wouldn't be an upgraded variant of the Switch, but more of a successor. More DS to 3DS than 3DS to N3DS.

If the previous rumors are to be taken into account, that the GPU runs at 1024MHz in handheld mode, then this thing would run at ~4TFs. That's a significant jump from Switch's ~300GFs.



This is less Nintendo and more nVidia. Plus I wouldn't equate it to a 3050. That would still use GDDR6 RAM while this would more likely use LPDDR5 and run at a MUCH slower rate. An under clocked 3050 would be a closer idea, like the OG Switch is an under clocked GT750.

This is not impossible. The switch SOC is, 2 or 3 generations behind modern hardware. This could easily be the $400 machine they could sell next to the normal switch and lite with similar performance in mobile mode and fully unleashed when docked

 

[jigglet]

A 3050?

On a Nintendo Platform?

Hell no. No way. That’s bigger than a series S.

Not happening.

This.

Why the fuck do we have to go through this every generation? This epic level of delusion? The rumors about Wii U and the Switch were off the fucking charts.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

While I don't doubt nVidia would just slap a "custom" Orin SoC in it and call it a day (custom being just lowering clock speeds for less battery use) something like this still wouldn't be an upgraded variant of the Switch, but more of a successor. More DS to 3DS than 3DS to N3DS.

If the previous rumors are to be taken into account, that the GPU runs at 1024MHz in handheld mode, then this thing would run at ~4TFs. That's a significant jump from Switch's ~300GFs.



This is less Nintendo and more nVidia. Plus I wouldn't equate it to a 3050. That would still use GDDR6 RAM while this would more likely use LPDDR5 and run at a MUCH slower rate. An under clocked 3050 would be a closer idea, like the OG Switch is an under clocked GT750.

Even then this would outperform a series S.

Come on this is never happening. I’ll happily eat crow if it does, but…

 

[McHuj]

Key word here is customized.

cut this thing to about a quarter of the size

 

[b6a6es]

A 3050?

On a Nintendo Platform?

Hell no. No way. That’s bigger than a series S.

Not happening.

And WAY more expensive to make (as the Series S itself isn’t profitable), and it’s pretty much set in stone that Nintendo Hardware is Always profitable (the only 2 times it wasnt, was with the Virual boy & The 1st 3DS model due to pricecut to counter the Vita at the time, one of which was dropped while the other caused the company to bleed money for couple of years)

 

[tkscz]

Even then this would outperform a series S.

Come on this is never happening. I’ll happily eat crow if it does, but…

How would that out perform the series S? Slower RAM, it would have to have 20GBs of LPDDR5 to even come close to the 10GBs of GDDR6 the series S has. And even at 12 cores, the Ryzen inside the series S would easily out preform an ARM CPU. We're not talking M1 performance. And I doubt it would use NVMe technology, so games would still load slowly.

More than likely the 2048 CUDA cores would be cut down to 1536 cores, but even if it wasn't, it would still be down clocked to run in handheld mode.

If these rumored specs were true, it would still not perform on the same level as the series S.

 

[Captain Toad]

I'm not sure what's more pathetic, these rumors or that blue box shit. The switch pro is such an insane rumor that never dies.

I'm sure it'll exist... at some point.

It's existed the entire time. It just hasn't been shown yet.

But, that doesn't mean all these rumors are legit.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

How would that out perform the series S? Slower RAM, it would have to have 20GBs of LPDDR5 to even come close to the 10GBs of GDDR6 the series S has. And even at 12 cores, the Ryzen inside the series S would easily out preform an ARM CPU. We're not talking M1 performance. And I doubt it would use NVMe technology, so games would still load slowly.

More than likely the 2048 CUDA cores would be cut down to 1536 cores, but even if it wasn't, it would still be down clocked to run in handheld mode.

If these rumored specs were true, it would still not perform on the same level as the series S.

2048 ampere cores will smoke the gpu in the series S

 

[KungFucius]

This.

Why the fuck do we have to go through this every generation? This epic level of delusion? The rumors about Wii U and the Switch were off the fucking charts.

And they stay off the charts after reveal until actual launch when nobody can deny how weak the system is anymore. It is obnoxious. The Switch Pro rumors have been the most ridiculous collection of repeated bullshit in gaming and are products of the same delusional thinking that Nintendo will cater to hardware enthusiasts. Maybe the Switch 2 will not be a weak ass system that has it's best games struggle to maintain 30FPS, but from the last 3 Nintendo consoles we should expect disappointing specs, shrug it off and enjoy the games they put out on it.

 

[brian0057]

2048 ampere cores will smoke the gpu in the series S

Wait a minute.
Are the 2048 cores the entirety of the SoC, ala Ryzen APUs, or is it just an nVIDIA GPU paired with an Arm CPU?
I'm confused.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Wait a minute.
Are the 2048 cores the entirety of the SoC, ala Ryzen APUs, or is it just an nVIDIA GPU paired with an Arm CPU?
I'm confused.

That’s just the gpu.

Which is what why I don’t believe this.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Yeah now customize it so that it only consumes around 20w tops (for the whole system), and is small enough to be considered a portable. Oh and Nintendo gotta make money on that hardware too, while selling it anywhere between 299$ and 399$.

 

[tkscz]

2048 ampere cores will smoke the gpu in the series S

The series S isn't that weak.

Wait a minute.
Are the 2048 cores the entirety of the SoC, ala Ryzen APUs, or is it just an nVIDIA GPU paired with an Arm CPU?
I'm confused.

CUDA cores like an nVidia GPU with an ARM CPU and LPDDR RAM all on one SoC. That's how the Tegra line is built. The current Switch has 256 Maxwell CUDA cores. Same ones in the Geforce 700 series (900 series for the redone Switch).

 

[UnNamed]

+2000 cores in a gpu for sm?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

The series S isn't that weak.

Definitely weaker than 2048 cuda cores tho.

 

[SomeGit]

This makes no sense to me, so any devs right now would have to target a tegra X1 and this which is mad as a power difference seems a lot, as this is a several generations of upgrades for both CPU and GPU.

Or just target Switch Pro but if that's the case wouldn't it be better for the Switch Pro to just be a "Switch 2"?

 

[UnNamed]

2000 cores in a mobile gpu?

goodluck.gif

 

[TAS]

If this is true are we looking at a Switch console?

 

[Bernd Lauert]

I'm not sure what's more pathetic, these rumors or that blue box shit. The switch pro is such an insane rumor that never dies.

I'm sure it'll exist... at some point.

It's going into production like next week or so. It definitely exists.

As for the T239, they gonna substantially cut it down. Don't expect 12 cores and 2k cudas. More like 8 cores and 1500 cudas. And downclocked of course.

 

[Krappadizzle]

What's the Gamecube duct tape ratio though? These are the important questions we NEED answered.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

I love these rumors. I'm doubtful as well altough it'd certaintly be a real megaton if, all of a sudden, Switch "ports" would be no issue at all given that the new "lowest common demoninator" would be the Series S. Also, if this thing is stationary only, it might be a completely new console and much more likely to have a beefier GPU.

 

[jaysius]

It's going into production like next week or so. It definitely exists.

As for the T239, they gonna substantially cut it down. Don't expect 12 cores and 2k cudas. More like 8 cores and 1500 cudas. And downclocked of course.

Oh, your uncle's son's son cousin who works for Nintendo told you that, huh?

 

[Captain Toad]

Need a couple of tags for the title. [RUMOR][NONSENSE]

 

[JapeMincers]

If this is indeed just a mid-gen refresh I can’t see this being anything other than a die shrunk X1 with clock speeds closer to the stock nVidia speeds and a bump in RAM.

However, at the Switch’s current age it’s possible it’ll actually a successor and would therefore have a new architecture. I personally wouldn’t expect raw performance to exceed the original Xbox One though, but it should have an improved feature set and be able to use DLSS to produce better results.

 

[Fake]

The series S isn't that weak.

Dunno about the CPU, but the Series S GPU with little help of DDR3 is pretty weak in comparison with this.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Oh, your uncle's son's son cousin who works for Nintendo told you that, huh?

 

[Captain Toad]

However, at the Switch’s current age it’s possible it’ll actually a successor

No chance. Nintendo isn't going to move to the next generation when the Switch is still selling absurdly high.

Not to mention, we would hear about a new generation console long before it starts getting produced. With refreshes, they want to announce them as close to launch as possible. But, with new generations they need a long time to promote the new generation.

 

[Captain Toad]

It's going into production like next week or so. It definitely exists.

Oh, please tell us how you know this information.

 

[Razvedka]

The series S isn't that weak.

Compared to the listed GPU it most certainly is.

In practice it would probably put out better effects depending on the CPU + memory combo of this rumored Switch in addition to its targeted output resolution. So *if* this thing is real and targeting native 4k then that's a different story...

 

[Zannegan]

So, basically, if any of this were true, we'd be talking either suscessor or console-only (or both), right? Neither of those things fits with my ecpectations for Nintendo's next hardware...

...which is about the only thing that makes this rumor believable in my eyes. My expectations are always wrong. XD

EDIT: A question (just for fun): IF this were true, and this next Switch hardware were a hybrid using some version of this SoC, however cut down, how much would you expect it to cost?

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

 

[prinz_valium]

So, basically, if any of this were true, we'd be talking either suscessor or console-only (or both), right? Neither of those things fits with my ecpectations for Nintendo's next hardware...

...which is about the only thing that makes this rumor believable in my eyes. My expectations are always wrong. XD

EDIT: A question (just for fun): IF this were true, and this next Switch hardware were a hybrid using some version of this SoC, however cut down, how much would you expect it to cost?

$499 as hybrid
$399 as console only

 

[Bernd Lauert]

So, basically, if any of this were true, we'd be talking either suscessor or console-only (or both), right? Neither of those things fits with my ecpectations for Nintendo's next hardware...

...which is about the only thing that makes this rumor believable in my eyes. My expectations are always wrong. XD

EDIT: A question (just for fun): IF this were true, and this next Switch hardware were a hybrid using some version of this SoC, however cut down, how much would you expect it to cost?

Anything else than 399 would be weird.

 

[Zannegan]

Anything else than 399 would be weird.

For a Switch Pro/Successor? I 100% agree. I was just wondering what price this kind of hardware would mandate. I'm just finding it hard to believe that you could pack something that could smoke the Series S into a hybrid form factor, charge $400 for it, and still be profitable.

 

[mansoor1980]

 

[Shadowstar39]

How would that out perform the series S? Slower RAM, it would have to have 20GBs of LPDDR5 to even come close to the 10GBs of GDDR6 the series S has. And even at 12 cores, the Ryzen inside the series S would easily out preform an ARM CPU. We're not talking M1 performance. And I doubt it would use NVMe technology, so games would still load slowly.

More than likely the 2048 CUDA cores would be cut down to 1536 cores, but even if it wasn't, it would still be down clocked to run in handheld mode.

If these rumored specs were true, it would still not perform on the same level as the series S.

These rumors and expectations are always ridiculous. I remeber before the switch came out there were actually people who thought it would be as strong as an Xbox1. Like do you people not see its a handheld device and needs to not overhear, be downclocked and have good battery life. Unless you want to hold a brick it's not going to happen.

 

[Nickolaidas]

These rumors and expectations are always ridiculous. I remeber before the switch came out there were actually people who thought it would be as strong as an Xbox1. Like do you people not see its a handheld device and needs to not overhear, be downclocked and have good battery life. Unless you want to hold a brick it's not going to happen.

Which is why the 'Switch Pro being only docked' rumor works with that logic.

Switch Lite for those who only want hanhdeld.
Switch for those who swing both ways.
Switch Pro for those who only want couch gaming.

 

[Mithos]

It's going into production like next week or so. It definitely exists.

As for the T239, they gonna substantially cut it down. Don't expect 12 cores and 2k cudas. More like 8 cores and 1500 cudas. And downclocked of course.

I expect Nintendo to disappoint, so I think they wont even go pass 4 cores and 512 cudas.

 

[MasterCornholio]

I'm not sure what's more pathetic, these rumors or that blue box shit. The switch pro is such an insane rumor that never dies.

I'm sure it'll exist... at some point.

I hope they don't call it The New Nintendo Switch.

 

[Xdrive05]

I hope they don't call it The New Nintendo Switch.

Nintendo Switchtyfour.