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New Xbox One details: Power consumption, HW changes, price, orientation (4Players.de)
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mentalfloss
Banned
The console is intended to sit horizontally.....
NeoJanissary
Banned
i for one am very glad that they didnt go with a design that can sit in 2 ways. you cannot optimize airflow and cooling (or anything really) for 2 things and expect both to be equal. big box for silent, efficient cooling that sits one way.
love it, in fact, ive already made the space in my home for it!
as for the power block, i wouldnt use that picture as confirmation of their being one. maybe some versions had one and some didnt? regardless, im pretty sure it was separately confirmed that it does still have one
love it, in fact, ive already made the space in my home for it!
as for the power block, i wouldnt use that picture as confirmation of their being one. maybe some versions had one and some didnt? regardless, im pretty sure it was separately confirmed that it does still have one
Ummm....is there any other pics?
Da fuq?
Dude, it's not 1995. You certainly can optimize airflow for both. They chose not too.
lol at you doubting it.
It's been confirmed multiple times
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=560781
CambriaRising
Member
Yes, though Motorolla claims that they had to develop a custom hardware solution to be constantly listening for voice commands without incurring much extra power cost.
I think the main point is not that it is unfeasible for Microsoft to do better, but rather that without the strict power constraints of a cell phone, they did not have the motivation to spend extra money on engineering and components. I imagine that most consumers will not know or care about the high standby power, and the small fraction that do can always disable the feature.
Dragon1893
Member
So there probably won't be a 180 regarding price.
Will be interesting to see how much of a factor that will be.
Being more expensive sure didn't do the PS3 any favors.
Will be interesting to see how much of a factor that will be.
Being more expensive sure didn't do the PS3 any favors.
GrizzledGrump
Banned
We don't know the power requirements of the sensor, but we do know that it draws power from the console itself. MS also stated that they have just enough power to process audio when the console is in a low power state. So even in its low power state, Xbox One is actively doing something unlike a desktop PC in sleep mode.
What the fuck are you accusing me of? What misinformation? GTFO.
The answer is: The Xbone is providing more than simple reactivation ability in standby mode, that's why it's able to use more than half a watt and still is compliant with EU regulations.
The Op clearly states the "Xbox on" mode requires 14 Wh, and this is not new ground: Plenty of other devices use more than 1/2 Watt in standby because they offer additional functionality beyond simple button reactivation (things like Wake-on-LAN for PCs, for example).
Miles Quaritch
Member
Yea but I never confirmed anything and I was just asking if it had better pics of the bricks or documents stating it. How is that spreading misinformation? Dude had no need to be a shit head about it.
GrizzledGrump
Banned
Why do people care about a power brick? I thought that was a positive? If the external PSU blows out, I just buy a new one. If it's internal, the manufacturer has to repair it.
MS has really stringent thermal constraints for this box because they expect it to be on at all times like cable/sat boxes and receivers. At my house, my cable box is never shut off.
CambriaRising
Member
Sorry bout that.
dragonelite
Member
Dont really have an issues with an power brick.
Not feeling paying premium for kinect i probably will have disabled most of the time.
Not feeling paying premium for kinect i probably will have disabled most of the time.
Modern, well configured Haswell desktops can actively run at an idle state (Windows is active, but nothing is really requiring much processing power) on quite a bit less than Xbone apparently "sleeps" at: This is not impressive in the least.
I personally hate them. With a passion. They're no deal breaker, but mighty fucking annoying for me.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Have they said whether or not you can turn the "Xbox Off" stuff off? I can see someone trolling me in my house already.
dragonelite
Member
I think they pretty much said you can almost completely disable kinect in the OS.
"Xbox off" never existed, never will.
Yes confirmed at the privacy/NSA blow out, whitten said it (kinect) can be turned off at any time
RedRooster
Member
This standby mode, is that where the XBox can download game updates and update apps when not being used? 14 watts sounds like what a hard drive(~8W) and something else would need, in which case that would be great. Never waiting to update games/apps or even the OS ever again, all done while you sleep.
Or you could disable the Kinect features that make the "Xbox On" command a thing....or you could go the extreme route and just not buy the thing...no skin off my back, lol.
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
Agreed. Not a deal breaker, but a pain in the ass. Big ones like the 360's are hard to keep out of site without moving my TV stand further away from the wall than it should be in order for it to fit back there.
SwiftDeath
Member
More interesting than the IGN "AMA" Q & A but still not really that useful
Power consumption is noteworthy but would be nice to know during gaming, during menu usage, during watching tv etc.
Power consumption is noteworthy but would be nice to know during gaming, during menu usage, during watching tv etc.
Ari's whole shtick is pretty obvious and I wouldn't put it past him to purposefully spread misinformation. Power bricks suck, the Xbone has one.
infinityBCRT
Member
Guess it needs some juice to do background patches and listen for Skype calls and stuff.
Sinthor
Gold Member
Well, from what's been said so far, that standby power consumption will allow the updating- at least allow it to begin. It's unclear but seems reasonable that that is just the XB1's "waiting for instructions" state. Probably uses more power as it wakes up a bit more fully to actually download and install updates. The HDMI passthrough question is very interesting though. No confirmation on that that I've seen. I'd bet that at .5 watts it will NOT allow the HDMI passthrough but again requires waking to a bit higher power level.
I think people need to understand that MS is NOT going to lower the price from $499 any time soon and certainly not befor launch. Not a chance. MAYBE if they were literally seeing almost no pre-orders. However, we all know that the hard core fans who want an Xbox are going to buy one, so MS has no reason to lower the price that early. They'll sell a good number just to the early adopters. We'll have to see how sales go after that crowd has purchased their hardware. I don't personally see MS reducing prices regardless for about a year though. They'll need to at least reduce the price a bit once Sony does their first price drop for the PS4.
dragonflys545
Member
LOL it would be funny if you can do this, but when you unplug that junk the xbone stops working...
Are you going to link said twitter chat? Pretty please?
Read from bottom to top
https://twitter.com/MartynLandi/status/365117321708175360
He works for an apps magazine which is part of a imagine publishing which also publish the Game and X360 magazine. I guess they share one office.
That's admirable, but most people (at least in the US) don't.
Wake on Lan PCs don't need more than a watt or two. The 27" imac draws 1 watt in sleep mode with WOL.
Syphon Filter
Member
Quit bluffing and announce a $399 sku already.
PSU on electronics don't go out that often. I've had plenty of PC PSU's go but so far none on TV's, VCR's, cable boxes, modems, routers or Consoles. For a lot of people the tangle of wires behind their TV's is a aesthetic and practical concern. You need to put the brick somewhere and not everyone has a lot of open space. It was a common complaint of the 360 as well since it power brick was huge.
It wouldn't be allowed on sale in the EU if that was the case .