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New Xbox One Rumors: PS4 PSN > XBL, snap crashes games, ES RAM life long bottleneck
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I'd be ok with that!
But to speak to the rest of your post. I think most people are still a little peeved over the always-online, No used games, forced kinect, kinect monitoring your every move, $100 console cost for subpar specs and the bullshit PR spinning. So this never-ending onslaught of bad news comes off as reaping what you sow.
I have to say I feel that sentiment. Microsoft brought a lot of nice franchises to the world, kept Sony and Nintendo fighting to compete and pushed online gaming into the mainstream but it was also the company that started online pay walls, pushed paid DLC, and got fairly arrogant with their success and looked to those latter issues even further. So I'm of a very mixed mind on whether I want Microsoft to remain in the console business after this gen. And just to make clear The 360 was my most used console BY FAR this generation.
As to games journalism, its always mostly been fanboys slobbering over their hobby, bending over backwards to the people that make them.
oh this suspense is going to kill me and then I wont be able to play any system XD
I know, sorry, I'm just frustrated. Didn't mean to make it sound like a lash against you.
This shit is just so fucking irritating. It should not be a fight to get news THIS important only a few weeks from launch. Why do so many of these outlets not understand this?
I think there is likely only two real outcomes from this:
1) All the insiders are correct or mostly correct and the xbone
2) MS has found the leaks and directing these people to lie to insiders in order to discredit them when launch comes around
Given how widespread these rumours are, I think it is the former rather than the latter.
1) All the insiders are correct or mostly correct and the xbone
2) MS has found the leaks and directing these people to lie to insiders in order to discredit them when launch comes around
Given how widespread these rumours are, I think it is the former rather than the latter.
Cerebral Assassin
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Impressive.
No,they just happened to request & sponsor( allegedly to the tune of 3/4 million Dollars) a documentary about Polygon launching.
Kotaku (Schreier) is reporting:
http://kotaku.com/rumored-xbox-one-launch-issues-lead-to-lots-of-question-1453405464
http://kotaku.com/rumored-xbox-one-launch-issues-lead-to-lots-of-question-1453405464
R3TRODYCE
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GoofsterStud
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It is true...if you keep it in a small plastic display case with no ventilation.
Example A:
hm, that's true.
yeah, I think the real news from that was actually that the PS4 has an emergency shutoff to avoid any damage.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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It's on fire.
Are you referring to that PS4 that was locked up in a closed box in Spain for nearly 8 hours in a row?
It didn't even shut down: it just gave off a warning that the system was getting hot, and after opening up the closed box, the warning was gone within seconds.
I want them to not sign any NDA if it means forcing consumers to be out of the loop on critically important shit like this. If they sign an NDA that means they can't speak out against this, they've already given up their credibility.
'Access' don't mean shit if what that really amounts to is just giving lip service to the companies while keeping the readers - the only fucking important element in this mix - in the dark.
I could pull together some other tweets but I think it might be pointless, seeing as most of GAF thinks the gaming press is completely in the pocket of the big pubs.
Just one example:
Ok, another
Well I'm not lying junior Microsoft funded polygon
Pseudo judo
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BRocknRolla
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Why would you want to anger part of your user base? A lot of sites depend on having an audience for as many platforms as possible. Spending effort blowing up one of the consoles probably won't bring in a lot of users, but it may well lose them some. That's the danger of the "enthusiast" press.
If you're really trying to get to the bottom of this and find out the real stories about what is going on, I salute you. There's so little actual investigative journalism in this industry, and that frustrates me to no end. The outcome of this issue, whether true or false or positive or negative for either console is irrelevant to me; I just want to see some good-old-fashioned reporting. I wish you all the best in these endeavors.
Stripper13
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Edit: Double Post
I know the EDRAM in Xbox 360 caused devs some problems and didn't exactly allow "free AA" as MS and ATi claimed at the time, but I don't remember it being a huge issue like XBone's ESRAM. Even Wii U's EDRAM didn't seem to be as bad as this. That's what I'm most worried about. The OS / UI / Live problems can be fixed in a matter of months but the ESRAM is never going to really change. It's fixed. Devs can only find work arounds as they get more familiar with the arch.
Solid warrior
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I heard (from a dev source) that PS4 overheats and it actually explodes. Come November, It will be fixed. Wait till launch.
I took this weeks ago when the promo stands for AC4 appeared in (UK) stores and never posted it as I couldn't be sure of any significance. I still don't think there is any, but your post reminded me of this... note the missing logo, heh.
It's not even a missing logo. It's more like excluded logo. The typefaces have been arranged as such that logo placement are neat and centered and leave no space for an additional logo.
Shao Kahn Going Shopping
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Xenon
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I've been called a shill and I've been a member here since the forum's rebirth and the previous forum since before the release of the PS2. It's a shame that this witch hunt mentality exists here but it does. It makes me look back fondly at the more simpler times when people were just labeled fanboys. Now everyone is on MS's payroll.
As far as the OP, something tells me things are not as ominous as we are being led to believe for MS. Do I think the leakers have an agenda, without a doubt. Do I believe there is truth in what they say, sure but I think they are painting the picture with a bit of a think brush for dramatic effect.
Great and balanced job by Schreier. Good job, Jason!
EmptySpace
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instead, there is the abundance of the cynical, angry schtick which is full of complaints about the gaming industry, about games, about "how stupid and shitty this game is, they don't know how to make games, let me use more metaphors," etc. but when things that matter are actually at-hand, those complainers disappear.
Stripper13
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This.
I made a thread about the state of journalism, NDAs and secrets a couple of days ago. Our very own editor for Kotaku stated that we have to be patient - it had only be 3 days (Ignoring the fact that these issues/rumours have been solid for months).
It's been 5 days by my count. It is no longer about patience - the journalists aren't doing their job properly. Whether you need of be quicker, or get some more sources etc. I'm not sure. But this shit would be unacceptable in any other industry. I certainly hope it's not a case of waiting for an official response from Sony/Ms, bound to be manicured nonsense.
Do your fucking job - report on this shit.
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oor timing as the Kotaku story goes up. Though I still think 5 days give or take was far, far too long for that particular news story.I know but it still should be something that launches alongside the console.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I mean I get this stuff is important for some. I actually switched over to PS4 and going to pay it off with my xbox one preorder but all the tryna take a dump on stuff by some posters is a bit repulsive.
I'd say "fuck NDAs" as in the big companies that own most of the large/popular gaming sites need to push back hard on not allowing their reporters to sign NDAs in the first place. The publishers will kick and scream and deny coverage, but in time there will be some kind of accord reached because the fact is the gaming sites and the pubs need each other.
Give me Kotaku, Gameinformer, C&V, etc. but NOT Polygon! Surely NOT Polygon!
So you honestly think people will give the box 2 months of collecting dust before they shit all over it saying "OMGWTFTHISTHINGKEEPSFREEZINGSHUTTINGOFFNOTCONNECTINGTOINTERNETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" on every damn social media network?
In today's world - if the issue is widespread - I'd expect it to go a few hours after launch before people take to social media flailing their arms about forbidding anyone to buy it.
Seriously. If major crashing, freezing, connection issues do occur in large at launch - it won't make it to 2014 without the grace of a forgiving, loving deity.
Has nothing to do with the fact Polygon is Microsoft's money-hatted bitch. No, we just need the drama, we feed on it.
Bam Bam Baklava
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It is true...if you keep it in a small plastic display case with no ventilation.
Example A:
My god wtf were they thinking.
To add to the Kotaku report:
No AC4 Xbox One version for review yet. Also, CoD Ghosts embargo lifts Nov. 5th for PS3, PS4, 360 and Nov. 12th for Xbox One. Their problems with the SDKs and certifications might be reason for the delayed review versions, not MS trying to shut up the press.
No AC4 Xbox One version for review yet. Also, CoD Ghosts embargo lifts Nov. 5th for PS3, PS4, 360 and Nov. 12th for Xbox One. Their problems with the SDKs and certifications might be reason for the delayed review versions, not MS trying to shut up the press.
It is true...if you keep it in a small plastic display case with no ventilation.
Example A:
RLOD!
Solid warrior
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Dude, You sign an NDA, then you stick to it. Otherwise, Don't sign any at all. As simple as that.
As a journalist, You will be given the right to see hardware/software which is currently 'in development'. You are given many rights under that contract. You'll be able to talk about the features of the said software but you're not allowed to point to any problems to it unless you're allowed to according to the NDA. because it's "IN DEVELOPMENT" and the consumer will never see that alpha version of the software and/or hardware. Development =/= final build intended for consumer use.
MS and Sony and other publishers as well are allowing the journalists to do their jobs as per the NDA contract. If a journalist is gone rogue, His actions will not hurt himself only. It will hurt the company, the hard working people who spent hours and maybe took an overtime shift to deliver the product and it will hurt the families of the people who were associated with that company and eventually your economy will be hurt as well.
Not a single company on earth would tolerate childish behavior from childish journalists.
It is true...if you keep it in a small plastic display case with no ventilation.
Example A:
This picture has been debunked by Sony a month ago..
It is true...if you keep it in a small plastic display case with no ventilation.
Example A:
Uh oh...
Where?
Debunked. Immediately started working when the console was out of that enclosed case.
dark_prinny
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We're back!
http://kotaku.com/rumored-xbox-one-launch-issues-lead-to-lots-of-question-1453405464
has an ariticle up mentions dev kits being buggy too . new thread worthy?
has an ariticle up mentions dev kits being buggy too . new thread worthy?
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