KeeSomething
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New Yoshi's Island announced for 3DS!
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I frankly don't remember that.
But I think it looks weird. At least on the other game it was just a cutscene, here you have to see it all the time :X
robertlebrone
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I'm not a fan of the 2.5D art style. They should have gone with a pure 2D title.
Yoshi always had huge feet. I have a plush Yoshi from back in the day and even its feet are enormous!
Well, it's like I said, your complaints can still be valid, despite being influenced by nostalgia. But it takes a certain degree of arrogance to claim that your nostalgia has no bearing on the root of your opinions. Quite the contrary, really.
The only way to be completely objective (well, within the confines of the subjective nature of "taste") is to have never seen any of these games before now. Make no mistake -- that is the only way.
By the way, I think YI DS looks relatively ugly compared to both YI SNES and 3DS.
Somehow Yoshi's feet look appropriate in these kind of renders. I admit, the feet are big but... whatever.
I know that's a minor complaint and will in no way, ever, hinder my experience with the game, so there's that.
But the models still look weird/out of place. And I don't like how Yoshi walks lol.
Same. I wish sprites of 3D models were banned in all platformers as they have always looked SHITE
Magicpaint
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Yep. I honestly think that's such an odd thing to complain about. But to each his own.
KeeSomething
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Make no mistake, claiming someone's opinion is run by nostalgia certainly has a negative connotation connected to it. It's basically an insult you throw at someone to try and belittle their argument without doing anything to solidify your own. It's really lazy.
Call me arrogant, but nostalgia really doesn't have anything to do with me liking the artstyle of Yoshi's Island, and preferring it to this 3DS game. YI just aged incredibly well because of how simple it is. 2D sprites usually do age better. Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask are two games I have a lot of nostalgia for, but they certainly don't look good by today's standard. OoT3D looks miles better than the original. You can prefer the darker look of OoT64, but the 3DS remake looks objectively better with higher polygon count, better textures with more detail, and the game models match the official art much closer.
No it's not. Super Mario Galaxy looks objectively better than Super Mario 64.
All right.
KeeSomething
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Well, I guess pretty much all the games Nintendo announced at the last Nintendo direct rely on nostalgia.Hey, fair enough, I won't press the issue further.
You're entitled to believe that. I personally think nostalgia is an important component of our value systems throughout life, and so I subscribe to the notion of embracing it, rather than rejecting it.
But, yeah, I don't wanna argue any further because I . . . I love you.
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Yoshi's Island 3DS is still a mystery to me. Nintendo really needs to show off more of the game. E3 can't come soon enough!
Gonzo The Great
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More like Yoshi's Island is still one of the greatest games ever made. That being said, I'm excited for the 3DS sequel.
Gameplay reasons would be nice, but the ultimate reason (besides the fact that pixel artists are in short supply)? Probably because they wanted to make sure kids of today would want to play this game. I don't think that much would be guaranteed if it still looked like a "Super Nintendo game" to them.
I pulled YI out to play while my little cousins were around like a year ago. They enjoyed playing it after I introduced it to them, even though to them, it definitely did look like an "old game". It's not something that I would imagine them asking their parents to get for them if it was out on the market currently. Even Rayman Origins got that kind of response out of them, and that's a game that came out much more recently! :lol
My horrible, dirty secret which I only share in the most dire of circumstances...
I don't actually like Yoshi's Island all that much. 
I only rented it on the SNES and thought it was "good but not great". But yeah, like you I'm excited for the 3DS sequel. I'm always excited for new Nintendo games. I finally beat the game on the 3DS/GBA ambassador version, and I definitely enjoyed it, but I can't quite grasp how people put it in the same league as games like Super Mario World.
I only rented it on the SNES and thought it was "good but not great". But yeah, like you I'm excited for the 3DS sequel. I'm always excited for new Nintendo games. I finally beat the game on the 3DS/GBA ambassador version, and I definitely enjoyed it, but I can't quite grasp how people put it in the same league as games like Super Mario World.Man I want to know who these rotten kids are so I can teach 'em a thing or two.
Most of the kids I know -- well, mostly my little cousins -- love retro games and 2D graphics. I guess I miiiiiiight have had some influence on that. MAYBE.
Magicpaint
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My horrible, dirty secret which I only share in the most dire of circumstances...
I don't actually like Yoshi's Island all that much.
I also have a dirty secret:
I honestly thought the game looked bad back then. I remember me and a friend saying it looked like something my 3 yo brother would draw. To my defense though, I was only 10. And I was, I guess, more enamoured of DKC.
Lord_Byron28
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I beat YIDS and thought it was enjoyable enough even though some aspects made it feel like a slight straight to DVD sequel. With that in mind I've had the original and I can't get past one level without getting bored and shutting it off.My horrible, dirty secret which I only share in the most dire of circumstances...
I don't actually like Yoshi's Island all that much.
Man I want to know who these rotten kids are so I can teach 'em a thing or two.
Most of the kids I know -- well, mostly my little cousins -- love retro games and 2D graphics. I guess I miiiiiiight have had some influence on that. MAYBE.
Haha. Well my memory's a little fuzzy as I was also quite young at the time, but I don't recall thinking it was a bad looking game. I probably believed then, as I still do now, that it's art is its most redeeming quality.
KeeSomething
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I don't even remember what I thought about the graphics back in the day, but the lava monsters scared me to the point where I'd literally throw my controller, and run to my parents asking them to please sit there with me while I try to get passed that part. You know, for the moral support. I was 4. Maybe 5.
Man I want to know who these rotten kids are so I can teach 'em a thing or two.
Most of the kids I know -- well, mostly my little cousins -- love retro games and 2D graphics. I guess I miiiiiiight have had some influence on that. MAYBE.
Well, it's good to hear that your kin are more receiving of this type of thing than mine!
I mean, it's not like I haven't tried. Whenever they're in my care, the usual order of the day is to go back and try some of my older games, and watch some 2D animation classics from Disney, WB, etc. over dinner.
...But I guess when their first game consoles in their families were GCs and Xboxes, and the movies they grew up watching were Pixar and Dreamworks movies, I can only do so much!
Then again, I also knew people at college (some of which I talk to now), who won't even look at the likes of GGXX, KOFXIII and BlazBlue, because they believe that stuff "looks like shit that could've been played on the Genesis" and then go back to their Tekkens, SF4s and MvC3's.
I just came to accept that this is an attitude that the general public has now regarding 2D visuals in games. So the fact that Nintendo has also "adjusted" in recent years is no surprise to me.
Hell, when you even have people on this very forum who have the mentality that "2D game != retail game that I should pay $39.99-59.99 MSRP"? It just does more to showcase that "it is what it is".
Year of Yoshi!
Mr. Wonderful
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I recorded a little bit of gameplay to try and get a comparison as close as I could
Can we stop using this compressed, blurred, and dithered GIF that isn't represntitive of what the game actually looks like?
This is what it actually looks like, uncompressed:
Hell, I would love the game to be blurred like in that GIF. It actually improves the art style.
Fire Emblem Awakening has some beautiful sprite work.
a gazillion indie games would like to differ.
He means good Nintendo sprites.
I'm fine with their current art output, though. I think ALttP2 and YI3 look great.
entremet
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for Nintendo I mean.
So re-using things from a previous game make lazy?
God of War, Killzone, Metal Gear Solid, and Uncharted had some terrible sequels then.
Because, apparently, sequels aren't suppose to have things from the original in them, and they are clearly "lazy as fuck".
http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/1571...turn-to-shadow-moses/MGS4 - Heliport-620x.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-s3q_Mfn9Z...s1600/sony-psx-metal-gear-solid-screensho.png
Okay, watching this has somehow made me feel better about it. Seeing it in motion for a longer period of time makes it look much better!!
Agreed; it looks far better in motion
Allan Holdsworth
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Really? DS looks miles better than this. Pixel art > ugly pre-rendered sprites.
electroshockwave
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I'm not sure what the God of War image is supposed to show apart from them having the same main character. The Killzone image shows that they didn't reuse settings (same gun maybe?). MGS4 went back to Shadow Moses for story reasons, are you saying the same is true of YI 3DS? and the Uncharted pic is too small for me to see anything other than the same main character again.
It's the use of colour, mainly. I think it looks kind of pale and boring. Compared to the other two games, that is. On its own merits, it's not a bad looking game at all, but the others feel so lush and juicy by comparison.
Solid SOAP
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Has the art style grown for anybody else? I'll admit that the use of 3D models is pretty jarring next to (What I think is) beautiful, almost painting-quality tiles and backgrounds for levels, but I think that it all blends together well. The original game had a very "hard" art style, with a focus on bold colors and dark, thick outlines, but this game looks much softer, kinda like Kirby's Dreamland 3. I like it, I just wish Yoshi was a bit more expressive and that they didn't use 3D models over 2D tilesets.
Freezie KO
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Yoshi's feet are just compensating for Fire Emblem Awakening.
BishopLamont
Banned
Yarn Yoshi should come out this year so New Yoshi should be next year.
Yoshi's Island probably has the best soundtrack ever amongst my favorite games of all time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMmpRcld1FU
Thats so laid back and chilling, soothes the soul.
Underground
I hope Mario Wii U has original music. Some of my favourite game tracks come from the Mario series.
I don't think the game looks plain awful. Main problem is that it looks like a polished Yoshi's Island rather than it's own game. It's been 20 years FFS! Little Brera thought he would be blown away by a 128bit sequel to Yoshi's Island yet 2 games are out this year and both hardly push the boundaries.
Nintendo needed to be pushing some Rayman style boundaries!
Nintendo needed to be pushing some Rayman style boundaries!
ShiroAmakusa
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I really loved Yoshi's Island on the SNES. I remember how my favourite Nintendo mag (Total! - German Edition) gave it an 1+. Best rating they ever gave to a game.
Still got to see how this new game plays but I miss the bitmap style. Same reason, New Super Mario Bros. didn't feel that great to me. :/
Maybe Nintendo should go for a puppet theater style. Works fine for Sonic games.
Still got to see how this new game plays but I miss the bitmap style. Same reason, New Super Mario Bros. didn't feel that great to me. :/
Maybe Nintendo should go for a puppet theater style. Works fine for Sonic games.
peaceiscloser
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It reminds me a lot of Yoshi Topsy Turvy for the GBA.
Bill Rizer
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I'm torn if I should play Yoshi's Island DS, or at this point wait for YI rerelease on virtual console and replay it... I got the DS game years ago for something like 3 euros from a dutch guy off ebay but never bothered give it a run.