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[J_Gamer.exe]

Ok so I'm miles behind and may never catch up in this thread and all the rest so I'll post this here. Fairly long post....

My analysis of last nights reveal. (Was 9PM reveal in uk)

So the event itself overall was good. It started well and there was a bit if a lull somewhere around halfway through as they got some more 'cartoony' games in there but pretty much all games looked great graphics wise and with some looking incredible. Then it finished the event strongly.

Ratchet and clank looks cgi and has that superfast loading into new worlds section. That along with the graphics did excite me. They then followed it up with some pre alpha footage gameplay that still looked insane and had tons of effects and particles flying everywhere.

I think the event was paced pretty well however I can see why some like Bg's were a little disappointed if they know what ps5 can do and they didnt show more of that type of game rather than some lesser ones in the middle of the show. It wasn't a wall to wall brute force of unique power and titles.

Its almost like they gave us all a taste and left us wanting more and kept a lot back.

Anyway without going into each game I will mention one last game and that's horizon.

Some lunatics had been saying it didnt look like a leap.... wow. Go back and watch horizon trailers from ps4. It looked great with a current gen view but the footage we saw yesterday some was like cgi super stylized.

I really think judging by some comments not just on this site but across the internet some people don't know what they are looking at sometimes. I'm no expert just a hardcore casual gamer but only people who need their eyes checking as well as their heads IMO, would question the Horizon trailer.

Also heard 'it wasnt gameplay'. Well what if it was in parts and will look exactly like that? The bit when that machine comes out the water. I've watched the trailer so many times now and its breathtaking and the music is so beautiful it made hairs stand up.

Can you imagine if someone on twitter said to Guerilla wheres the gameplay and they replied, that basically is gameplay, it looks like that we just moved the camera round for some of the scenes.

I really think it'll look like that in a lot of scenes. The one where she climbs up and theres plants in the foreground and beautiful sky etc in the back, looks like its basically gameplay.

I've seen a gif on here but no idea where to find it.....

I'm just blown away by it and its probably still improving and getting to grips with the hardware.

The console itself I think is great. Its futuristic, stylish and slick. The horizontal view even is growing on me. I just think it looks pretty cool if a bit unconventional. I think there were renders I liked more in a traditional way but I'm still loving this one, the real tower of power? LOL It looks better than the xbox would lying horizontal.

I like how it wasn't pushed for this is that res and this is that. If a game looks stunning and like cgi and you find out it was 1600p upscaled with temporal injection to 4k but it's almost unnoticeable who cares? For me next gen shouldn't look to play res wars but cgi wars. Lower res upscaled and cgi and 30fps if necessary over 4k 60 for the sake of it and current gen look anyway. Obviously some titles differ in between depending on need. Some could be upscaled 4k 60 and still look incredible.

All in all a good show and a feeling a lot more to show. We still need to see load time demos, teardown, more evidence and explanations of how the unique power is used. Obviously more games that push the boundaries of what's possible.

 

[IntentionalPun]

This again is going back on Sony's two? previous 'clarifications'. The below video is exactly what I understood Mark Cerny meant with PS5 BC. Sony have made a pigs ear of this IMO.



Anyone got any idea why Sony have gone back and forth on this issue so many times? It genuinely baffles me. They were OK with zero BC for PS4 so why did they have to mess it up trying to put it in PS5 to "compete". As you can tell this issue has really pissed me off on principal and I don't even care about BC.....!

It doesn't go back on anything. People just can't read or listen. They interject unsaid words to make a claim Sony has never made.

Everything Sony has said that BC requires testing; not some "boosted BC vs non-boosted BC"... BC.

But not having another back and forth on this as there have been several already and it's always the same shit... people claiming things Sony didn't say.

Is it possible there is a non-boosted BC mode where games just work? That all of the talk of "testing" refers to a separate mode Sony has never explicitly described? Sure. They could be being coy or waiting to give the full picture.

 

[Rusco Da Vino]

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PS. But Sony does not know shit about how to market the PS5

 

[Kureo]

I'm wondering :

Was the reveal of a full digital PS5 the meaning no PS1/2/3 retro ? Why would people buy the All-Digital when you could play older games on the "basic" version ?

 

[Gamernyc78]

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PS. But Sony does not know shit about how to market the PS5

The quality and games market themselves. Thyve proven Gen after Gen thy have the goods. Marketing has been good but their best marketing has been their history and consistency with output of goty and goty contenders. It's insane how consistent thy are just today TLOU2 released and is sitting on a 96 meta.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

I wasnt looking for it, just noticed it when re-watching the event in higher res. Look at the lights in the tunnel (timestamped).



Also noticed, just now, from 1:48 ceiling lights in the tunnel are just going crazy

Yes, actually GT7 is the least impressive graphically between all of the PS Studio games so far, noticed ladder effects as well. I think their engine isn't utilizing the Geometry Engine and other HW inside PS5.

 

[Gamernyc78]

I'm wondering :

Was the reveal of a full digital PS5 the meaning no PS1/2/3 retro ? Why would people buy the All-Digital when you could play older games on the "basic" version ?

To save $50 and bcus some ppl have gone all digital already this gen. I'll be getting disc version though bcus I have tons of ps4 physical games to use for bc.

 

[SSfox]

WTF, MK11 sold very well. How?

NRS and Rocksteady are kreygasm game devs, please don't let them die, somebody worthy and with brain (cf. not EA) acquire them.

 

[Brudda26]

Might be worth looking for patents now we have the console revealed, I imagine they will pop up soon. Might be able to see the cooling solution before we get the teardown that way.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

PS5 is officially the "Tower of Power". Reminds me of some modern skyscrapers.

 

[LED Guy?]

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Last of Us Part II got a 96 on Metacritic and DESTROYED THE HATERS LIKE THE WHORES THAT THEY ARE!!

Oh and PlayStation 5 showcase was next-gen, but I feel like TLOU 2 looks and plays next-gen already, that is a testament to how masterful Naughty Dog is!

Sony have absolutely DESTROYED it!! And we still have Ghost of Tsushima coming in July too!

 

[SSfox]

Microsoft should pounce on that.

I hope not. (don't like what Rare has become post acquisition)

I think Take 2 could be good for them.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

It looks like a lot of fun! My only problem is... the name of the game LOL it sounds far too generic.

But than we have "Rocket league" and that sounds generic as well. So what do I know

They didn't put that name "AllStars" out of nothing. Expect all PS Studios iconic protagonists and antagonists to feature in the game through its life cycle. It's the next big thing, I tell you.

 

[Joey.]

Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

Horizon Zero Dawn on PS4 Pro (Aloy)

Horizon II Forbidden West on PS5 (Aloy)

To me, I see a big big difference. The skin, the hair look way better more realistic.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Last of Us Part II got a 96 on Metacritic and DESTROYED THE HATERS LIKE THE WHORES THAT THEY ARE!!

Oh and PlayStation 5 showcase was next-gen, but I feel like TLOU 2 looks and plays next-gen already, that is a testament to how masterful Naughty Dog is!

Sony have absolutely DESTROYED it!! And we still have Ghost of Tsushima coming in July too!

Yesterday I posted that metacritic score at 95 here and it got mass reported from salty members until it got deleted. Those goons aren't stopping it.

 

[Swadedtx]

Multiplayer can go fuck its own arse for all I care.

How many single player games do you need??? Last of Us 2 sounds like the gameplay is worse with no single player. They made it easier and have less interactive puzzles.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

So Sony moneyhatted Deathloop and Ghostwire? Add in Godfall and that’s 3 games they’re paying for in the 1st year

12 timed console exclusives, 9 permanent exclusives so far from that event.

 

[Delpij]

Although the conference was top tier, I still think Sony was holding back, and that surprises are far from being over on both the hardware and game sides. My guess is that Microsoft feels confident in their ability to counter Sony with their 1st party titles right now. I am one of the Playstation gamers that preferred the 360 over the PS3 (which might also be why I think Naughty Dog is overrated, but that’s a different story...). Even though that’s an often dismissed narrative, I do think Microsoft has the ability to poach players from competition with their exclusives, just like they did in the PS360 era. Once the Halo, Forza and family showcase is out of the way, will we be in for another treat?

 

[Gamernyc78]

Yesterday I posted that metacritic score at 95 here and it got mass reported from salty members until it got deleted. Those goons aren't stopping it.

I also guess 95/96, with naughty dog it's a no brainer at this point. Don't let the sodium bombs distract you lol

 

[LED Guy?]

Yesterday I posted that metacritic score at 95 here and it got mass reported from salty members until it got deleted. Those goons aren't stopping it.

Let them cry, because they can't change the facts and the truths.

It is a 96 on Metacrtitic and they can't do anything about it.

 

[Corndog]

I don't know I never tasted it but he seems to hate it.

Then why bring it up? Some of you need to tone down the hate.

 

[ResilientBanana]

Microsoft should pounce on that.

They would get the studio, but not the IP.. right? Either way, it’s a god damn great get. To own both MK and KI would be huge. But Rocksteady, that’s a megaton worthy studio.

 

[cerealbuster]

Can't make threads, so just going to post it here.

if you look closely you can see a microphone. So why does a playstation remote, that is only there to talk with your ps5 has a microphone? Easy, the patented ai assistant will be actually in the console. That's what they will probably tell us next month or in august too.

 

[schaft0620]

Can't make threads, so just going to post it here.

if you look closely you can see a microphone. So why does a playstation remote, that is only there to talk with your ps5 has a microphone? Easy, the patented ai assistant will be actually in the console. That's what they will probably tell us next month or in august too.

Are you talking about the mute button? The camera has a mic.

 

[Gravemind]

Although the conference was top tier, I still think Sony was holding back, and that surprises are far from being over on both the hardware and game sides. My guess is that Microsoft feels confident in their ability to counter Sony with their 1st party titles right now. I am one of the Playstation gamers that preferred the 360 over the PS3 (which might also be why I think Naughty Dog is overrated, but that’s a different story...). Even though that’s an often dismissed narrative, I do think Microsoft has the ability to poach players from competition with their exclusives, just like they did in the PS360 era. Once the Halo, Forza and family showcase is out of the way, will we be in for another treat?

I'd be very surprised if they were holding any more games back. I think what they showed is what they have.

They'll probably do a console breakdown, show the UI, and outline some of their key console features in events throughout the summer. But to expect more game to be revealed? I wouldnt get your hopes up.

 

[Corndog]

Too bad Sony didn’t show a game as good looking as M.U.L.E.

 

[Apocryphon]

Are you talking about the mute button? The camera has a mic.

Presumably he's talking about the button at the very top that looks like a mic icon.

 

[user1337]

Are you talking about the mute button? The camera has a mic.

No the mic button

It's the same as my Samsung remote. I suspect voice controls (seeing as PS4 could also do voice controls to some extent)

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

This is in-engine lads.

Fucking hell come on.

Stop it.

Naughty.

 

[Corndog]

I’m surprised that 360 still has a green light on it.

 

[Neo Blaster]

The only thing that make me disappointed from ps5 event is that they don't show actual demon souls and horizon 2 gameplay and I don't know if they gonna show them in August event or not,

I'm really thinking Sony hold them back for the sake of TLOU2 and GoT. We didn't have gameplay from DS, HZD2 nor Spiderman, very little(albeit great) from Project Athia and Kena and some gameplay(definitely great) from Ratchet & Clank and GT7, two games that wouldn't cause trouble to the style of games ND and SP are releasing. After their releases, Sony can unleash the Kraken (sorry for the pun) in August.

 

[Corndog]

This is in-engine lads.

Fucking hell come on.

Stop it.

Naughty.

To partially quote a forum member.

It still is a cinematic trailer running at 30fps, not interactive at all.


So stop being impressed. It is not allowed. My point stands.

 

[icerock]

The facial work and animations are absolutely stunning!

GG were always a technical juggernaut but after seeing what KojiPro was able to achieve with their engine in Death Stranding, I can't even imagine what goodies they have lined up for us in this game on back of that collaboration.

 

[SSfox]

This is in-engine lads.

Fucking hell come on.

Stop it.

Naughty.

Mindblow everytime i rewatch it, could be the best game ever visually.

The variety of the environments are insane and the new mecha are insanely well made!!

I hope Guerrilla will put more emphasis in interactivity, and we may get a new GOTG

 

[TLZ]

The facial work and animations are absolutely stunning!

GG were always a technical juggernaut but after seeing what KojiPro was able to achieve with their engine in Death Stranding, I can't even imagine what goodies they have lined up for us in this game on back of that collaboration.

Was this in-game btw? Because after watching it, that's what I'm expecting the game to look like.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

I thought Godfall looked really fun yesterday. I have kinda dogged it in the past and said "I'm just in for the loot" but this little trailer is pretty solid imo



--------------------





Standalone game, not an expansion

I spent more than $50 on visual microtransactions on Uncharted 4, so Naughty Dog gave me Lost Legacy for free! I was surprised. But it's because of the Digital Deluxe.

Uncharted: The Lost Legacy Free for Uncharted 4 Digital Deluxe Owners.

 

[Dibils2k]

they didnt have to make it same size too though!

 

[icerock]

Was this in-game btw? Because after watching it, that's what I'm expecting the game to look like.

Yes, it transitions to underwater gameplay where she is swimming while trying to stay away from Snapmaws. The level of detail seen in that screenshot is maintained during this sequence.

 

[sircaw]

Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!



To me, I see a big big difference. The skin, the hair look way better more realistic.

still bang both

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Edited after warning below.

/s

Now I see where you get your concerns.

 

[SSfox]

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Last of Us Part II got a 96 on Metacritic and DESTROYED THE HATERS LIKE THE WHORES THAT THEY ARE!!

Oh and PlayStation 5 showcase was next-gen, but I feel like TLOU 2 looks and plays next-gen already, that is a testament to how masterful Naughty Dog is!

Sony have absolutely DESTROYED it!! And we still have Ghost of Tsushima coming in July too!

Playstation consoles always ends consoles generations in awesome ways, great to see it's still the case and hopefully it will stay that way.

I'll always keep support as long as they keep doing it.

 

[Gamernyc78]

I'd be very surprised if they were holding any more games back. I think what they showed is what they have.

They'll probably do a console breakdown, show the UI, and outline some of their key console features in events throughout the summer. But to expect more game to be revealed? I wouldnt get your hopes up.

Jim Ryan already went on record and said "thy have lots more games in development"

Cory was suppose to show something based off tweets day before but it wasnt shown. We know they are working on one or two projects. Guerilla has two teams so another game is being developed besides Horizon 2. Naughty dog also is more than one team. Yeah there's alot still out there even though imo what thy showed yesterday is way more than competitors have shown in presentations in the past and more than gd.

 

[Insane Metal]

Yes, actually GT7 is the least impressive graphically between all of the PS Studio games so far, noticed ladder effects as well. I think their engine isn't utilizing the Geometry Engine and other HW inside PS5.

GT is ALWAYS the least impressive game shown on PS hardware reveals. The improvements made are usually massive as time goes by. When GT for PS4 was revealed it looked like GT6 with some improvements here and there. Just like GT7 now.

 

[saintjules]

I'd be very surprised if they were holding any more games back. I think what they showed is what they have.

They'll probably do a console breakdown, show the UI, and outline some of their key console features in events throughout the summer. But to expect more game to be revealed? I wouldnt get your hopes up.

I'd like to think that they are holding back a few games for the teardown and for the supposed August SoP. Perhaps some demonstrations of loading times and whatnot on the games shown, plus some others. "tons" to show, Jim Ryan said. I think this is just the beginning, but I'm already trying to tame my expectations.

Some of these games also didn't have release dates. I wonder if some of them were not shown on purpose to then surprise us later that they are indeed for the launch. HZD would be huge for launch, but I think it will be Q1-2 for 2021. Not sure what to make of all the announcements yet.

 

[Insane Metal]

Watching this DF video now:



They confirmed the best looking game on PS5 is indeed running at native 4K. Ratchet.

 

[Grodiak]

Jim Ryan already went on record and said "thy have lots more games in development"

Cory was suppose to show something based off tweets day before but it wasnt shown. We know they are working on one or two projects. Guerilla has two teams so another game is being developed besides Horizon 2. Naughty dog also is more than one team. Yeah there's alot still out there even though imo what thy showed yesterday is way more than competitors have shown in presentations in the past and more than gd.

For sure tons still in various stages of development. Whether or not we'll see them prior launch is a whole different question.

This is fine though, in my opinion. We only got a tease of each title yesterday. Each game could have its own "special showcase" trickled out, say every other week with gameplay etc - and... hell, we'd pretty much be at launch at that point

 

[bitbydeath]

Anyone else impressed by Stray?
That was the game that made me go WOW graphically funnily enough as it reminded me a lot of Love, Death and Robots episode Three Robots.

Love, Death and Robots

Stray

 

[Grodiak]

Watching this DF video now:



They confirmed the best looking game on PS5 is indeed running at native 4K. Ratchet.

The also said Horizon is running in native 4k

 

[Dee_Dee]

God of War is going to be mouth watering on the PS5

Hmm also I wonder if most of Sony’s 1st parties will be 4K30? Seems like MS is hellbent on doing 4K60 for their games

 

[ethomaz]

Then why bring it up? Some of you need to tone down the hate.

Which hate? lol

The guy is biased so what I can’t help him lol