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[VFXVeteran]

It was obvious VFXVeteran was talking about the graphical fidelity and was confused when you guys brought up GoW’s one shot style.

Why is that even relevant to this conversation if you didn’t intend to claim that GoW has the same graphics during cinematic and gameplay Ass of Can Whooping ?

Its irrelevant how they transition in this conversation other than graphical fidelity.

Like I don't understand this? Wow. Now I have to be completely EXPLICIT in what I mean because people will be looking to prove me wrong on basic assumptions?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

NO it doesn't. Not when used in the context of what we are talking about. Why would it even be brought up? Who would care about the camera transition? That adds nothing to the discussion.

Just drop it. You were wrong about God of War.

It was obvious VFXVeteran was talking about the graphical fidelity and was confused when you guys brought up GoW’s one shot style.

Why is that even relevant to this conversation if you didn’t intend to claim that GoW has the same graphics during cinematic and gameplay Ass of Can Whooping ?

Its irrelevant how they transition in this conversation other than graphical fidelity.

I have no interest in you when you avoided my question. seamless transition has an obvious meaning. I can only blame your english skills

 

[JonnyMP3]

Chuck me in the back with a couple of Pussies(CATS fs CATS) let me work my magic.

We have only 1 Cat on board sir.
He's a 'Stray'

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

what are you talking about? we are talking about seemless transitions, you said there werent any in GoW, and now you are moving goalposts?

dude, this is why people hate you. Just admit you were wrong and be a man about it. this is not a good look.

They are not seamless if you can point them out.
Edit for autocorrect

 

[VFXVeteran]

Just drop it. You were wrong about God of War. We both know you knew what we

So I misunderstand and so therefore I'm wrong. ....

 

[sircaw]

We have only 1 Cat on board sir.
He's a 'Stray'

Fs, the worst type of fleabag, street meat.

 

[SlimySnake]

Hitchhikers guide to being a fanboy:
Make stupid comment
Incite flame war
Play the victim

You forgot make up fake sources.

• One source tells him Hellblade 2 is realtime running on XSX.
• He chooses to ignore that source for 8 months and says it is rendered on PC.
• Then he pulls it out of his pocket and when confronted with the truth, he makes up another source who had traveled back in time to tell him it was pre-rendered on PC and not running on any AMD GPU.

From now on, I am prefacing all of my posts with "I called my mistress over at AMD at midnight for a quick cyber sex session and she confirmed to me that everything I am about to say is true".

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

They are not seem less if you can point them out.

And this is grade a stupidity. VFX liked it which proves my point

So I misunderstand and so therefore I'm wrong. ....

You were wrong and you're hiding behind a misunderstanding

 

[Zoro7]

Jesus this threads become more of a mess. Yet when I call out the one responsible I get told to pipe down.

 

[Lunatic_Gamer]

Haven Dev Wants to Use PS5’s 120FPS and DualSense Haptics to Make Gliding Feel as Smooth as Possible

We are at the veeeeery early steps of working on PS5. It’s a bit early for me to say. We will of course try to make the best use of the PS5 new hardware and features. One thing that’s the most exciting to me is to use the new gamepad haptic features and a 120FPS framerate to make gliding as smooth as possible.

Haven Dev Wants to Use PS5's 120FPS and DualSense Haptics to Make Gliding Feel as Smooth as Possible

Haven Creative Director Emeric Thoa said he plans to use PS5's up to 120 FPS frame rate and DualSense haptics to make gliding feel great.

wccftech.com

 

[VFXVeteran]

Jesus this threads become more of a mess. Yet when I call out the one responsible I get told to pipe down.

Because the mods have sense. They can see the hate and they see the constant urge to demean me. It's hilarious really. And I don't even mind it at all. That's what's the funny part.

 

[Epic Sax CEO]

1:37

I don't understand why they'd bother making someone "play" this 1.5 second section with the camera way zoomed off to the side?

1:42

Sure, maybe? But after about a second it's clearly not gameplay.. as the way the camera moves is cinematic when the dino-robot shows up.. then it zooms away towards the robot. Again not sure why they'd bother to "play" so breifly and then cut into what is clearly a cinematic presentation..

Another of the same for me.. why "play" this with an obviously cinematic camera?

And again.. same question... why play this? lol

Why not just show.. actual gameplay if the intention was to show gameplay? And not "HUD off and camera nowhere near where it would be during real gameplay?"

It seemed obvious to me the intention was to show a cinematic trailer. With the "Running on PS5" to give an indication that it was real time in engine.

None of what I'm saying about it not being gameplay even has to do with the fidelity.. it just obviously was scripted content.

Do I think the fidelity will match that cinematic content? I honestly have no clue..I hope it matches or exceeds it. But I don't make final judgements on obvious cinematics presented way before a game is out.

I continue to be impressed either way that it was apparently in-engine real time.

You really don't understand?
1 - must still be early in development;
2- we all already knows what Horizon is and how it plays, not need to show a demo explaining like if this was a new IP.
3- the cameras were altered in a few scenes of course with the purpose of giving a better early look at the graphics showcase and the technical powerhouse the game will be.

It's all very very simple, no need to force yourself to not understand.

 

[jasondefaoite]

Like I don't understand this? Wow. Now I have to be completely EXPLICIT in what I mean because people will be looking to prove me wrong on basic assumptions?

Even when you are explicit, you still change the meaning, so personally I don't see the point.

It was rendered. I mean I assumed it was rendered. I mean I had two sources with conflicting information. Dude, you are full of it.

 

[Zoro7]

Because the mods have sense. They can see the hate and they see the constant urge to demean me. It's hilarious really. And I don't even mind it at all. That's what's the funny part.

You just spent the best part of your Friday arguing with internet people trying to prove them wrong. Don't talk about sense.

 

[sircaw]

Jesus this threads become more of a mess. Yet when I call out the one responsible I get told to pipe down.

I blame HeisenbergFX4 for all this strife, he knows stuff but the dirty cheerleader with not give it up.

 

[VFXVeteran]

You forgot make up fake sources.

• One source tells him Hellblade 2 is realtime running on XSX.
• He chooses to ignore that source for 8 months and says it is rendered on PC.
• Then he pulls it out of his pocket and when confronted with the truth, he makes up another source who had traveled back in time to tell him it was pre-rendered on PC and not running on any AMD GPU.

From now on, I am prefacing all of my posts with "I called my mistress over at AMD at midnight for a quick cyber sex session and she confirmed to me that everything I am about to say is true".

 

[JonnyMP3]

Fs, the worst type of fleabag, street meat.

Apologies sir. He just turned up one day. I think he enjoyed the Traced Rays. You know how cats are for Rays. Not so much the Egons.

 

[kyliethicc]

Where’s the state of play?

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

Just drop it. You were wrong about God of War.


I have no interest in you when you avoided my question. seamless transition has an obvious meaning. I can only blame your english skills

Seamless : having no awkward transitions, interruptions, or indications of disparity
That's the definition. They are not seamless because there is an indication of disparity

Disparity : lack of similarity or equality; inequality; difference

 

[sircaw]

Apologies sir. He just turned up one day. I think he enjoyed the Traced Rays. You know how cats are for Rays. Not so much the Egons.

Link that train I wanna see that dirty dingo meal.

 

[VFXVeteran]

You just spent the best part of your Friday arguing with internet people trying to prove them wrong. Don't talk about sense.

I'm off today. Wasting time and enjoying this.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Seamless : having no awkward transitions, interruptions, or indications of disparity
That's the definition. They are not seamless because there is an indication of disparity

Disparity : lack of similarity or equality; inequality; difference

And you notice any of these disparities in motion?

No. And don't bother lying.

That's called a seamless transition

 

[VFXVeteran]

And you notice any of these disparities in motion?

No. And don't bother lying.

That's called a seamless transition

So let me clarify. Because you don't see the transition with your eyes, the true definition of seamless/disparity is defined by your own book?

Are you admitting that GoW cinematics have higher quality rendering than the gameplay? Or are you still convinced because the camera was sync'd with the cinematic that the rendering has to be the same?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

So let me clarify. Because you don't see the transition with your eyes, the true definition of seamless is defined in your favor?

Yes, because disparities have to be big, and if we need DF or a self-proclaimed VFX veteran to point them out then they're not disparities are they?

 

[JonnyMP3]

Link that train I wanna see that dirty dingo meal.

Your job is VIP Private Express if you want it?

Here we go sir. The number 5.
Doesn't she look Epic? Totally Unreal!

 

[silent head]

Silent Hill

 

[sircaw]

So let me clarify. Because you don't see the transition with your eyes, the true definition of seamless/disparity is defined by your own book?

YOU GO VETERAN. GO GET HIMwe are all with you.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

So let me clarify. Because you don't see the transition with your eyes, the true definition of seamless/disparity is defined by your own book?

Yes, clearly. It's a matter of perception, which is different from individual to individual.

What's so hard to understand about that? o.0

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

YOU GO VETERAN. GO GET HIMwe are all with you.

Be quiet you slut

 

[sircaw]

Be quiet you slut

sorry sometimes I get over-excited.

 

[JonnyMP3]

Silent Hill

Unfortunately...

 

[Dave_at_Home]

Y'all arguing about transitions while I'm on the high ground thinking about what PSVR2's controllers will be like.



As great as the new PS5 controller will probably be, I can't help but wonder how many games could utilize whatever the hell the new PSVR2 controllers are. Ghosts of Tsushima, but with Sony's VR controllers that may have haptic feedback as well for sword swinging combat? Hmm... on second thought, maybe I don't need to look more nerdy while playing video games. On the other hand, Sony should just do a straight up Wii Sports style game. Think of all the ray-tracing on those bowling pins!

 

[Lunatic_Gamer]

 

[sircaw]

Here we go sir. The number 5.
Doesn't she look Epic? Totally Unreal!

Its looking pretty good to me.

A for effort.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Silent Hill

Apparently just related to Dead by Daylight

 

[VFXVeteran]

Yes, clearly. It's a matter of perception, which is different from individual to individual.

What's so hard to understand about that? o.0

It is NOT a matter of perception. This isn't an illusion photo that shows a hidden figure around patterns. This is a video game with discrete processes. There is a huge jump in quality of rendering from cinematic to gameplay.

 

[Thedtrain]

Because the mods have sense. They can see the hate and they see the constant urge to demean me. It's hilarious really. And I don't even mind it at all. That's what's the funny part.

I am actually amazed and impressed at how much shit you can take and not really be phased.

 

[SlimySnake]

Seamless : having no awkward transitions, interruptions, or indications of disparity
That's the definition. They are not seamless because there is an indication of disparity

Disparity : lack of similarity or equality; inequality; difference

this is literally the dumbest thing ive read all day and i watched VFXVeteran say some really stupid things today.

We are literally arguing the definition of seamless transitions in 2020 as if this is the first time devs have used realtime cutscenes to do seamless transitions. This is hysterical.

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

And you notice any of these disparities in motion?

No. And don't bother lying.

That's called a seamless transition

I'm motion?
Moving goalposts?

 

[Darklor01]

Y'all arguing about transitions while I'm on the high ground thinking about what PSVR2's controllers will be like.



As great as the new PS5 controller will probably be, I can't help but wonder how many games could utilize whatever the hell the new PSVR2 controllers are. Ghosts of Tsushima, but with Sony's VR controllers that may have haptic feedback as well for sword swinging combat? Hmm... on second thought, maybe I don't need to look more nerdy while playing video games. On the other hand, Sony should just do a straight up Wii Sports style game. Think of all the ray-tracing on those bowling pins!

That is amazing, although.. I can't not see a hand gripping a gray penis with a flat base and no balls. I look forward to hearing about PSVR2 though!

 

[FunkMiller]

Silent Hill

Frankly, I knew this was nothing actually good about Silent Hill, because it was a tweet FROM KONAMI.

 

[Moridianae]

Apparently just related to Dead by Daylight

Hmm. No, the smoke has been too great regarding this series. With the PS5 event looming(and supposedly the resurrection of this franchise)...

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I'm motion?
Moving goalposts?

Yes, when something is seamless, contrary to to VFX wrong belief, it is based on perception.

You may as well be telling me there are disparities between 4K and 1800p. Some of you eagle hawked people might be able to notice some differences, but most people don't, which makes dynamic resolution between 4K and 1800p seamless

Get it?

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

this is literally the dumbest thing ive read all day and i watched VFXVeteran say some really stupid things today.

We are literally arguing the definition of seamless transitions in 2020 as if this is the first time devs have used realtime cutscenes to do seamless transitions. This is hysterical.

The argument was the cutscenes have the exact same fidelity as gameplay since they are "seamless". They don't and they aren't. It wasn't about camera placement. If it was there wouldn't be an argument.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Hmm. No, the smoke has been too great regarding this series. With the PS5 event looming(and supposedly the resurrection of this franchise)...

I mean, the tweet in question is related to Dead by Daylight

I still believe in the Silent Hill rumour, or at least I want to lol

 

[VFXVeteran]

this is literally the dumbest thing ive read all day and i watched VFXVeteran say some really stupid things today.

We are literally arguing the definition of seamless transitions in 2020 as if this is the first time devs have used realtime cutscenes to do seamless transitions. This is hysterical.

Snake get off your high horse bro. You was furious with Sony putting out their GPU that is less powerful than the XSX. You cried about it like a baby and complained. Someone must have converted you again because you are back at it again.

What things have you said in this forum that we can all learn from besides trying to downtalk people? Did you learn that cutscenes aren't rendered in the same quality as gameplay? Do you know how to tell the difference? I put up a very good example already.

 

[sircaw]

I am actually amazed and impressed at how much shit you can take and not really be phased.

LET ME AT HIM, had spagball tonight I am lock and loaded, oh wait. nvm

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

The argument was the cutscenes have the exact same fidelity as gameplay since they are "seamless". They don't and they aren't. It wasn't about camera placement. If it was there wouldn't be an argument.

Learn to read

 

[VFXVeteran]

Yes, when something is seamless, contrary to to VFX wrong belief, it is based on perception.

You may as well be telling me there are disparities between 4K and 1800p. Some of you eagle hawked people might be able to notice some differences, but most people don't, which makes dynamic resolution between 4K and 1800p seamless

Get it?

I've read through several pages of your drivel back and forth. Getting on my ass, trying to make petty arguments, etc.. and you have said NOTHING of value here. I mean nothing. What else can you tell us about Horizon 2 that we all don't know yet?

 

[Dave_at_Home]

That is amazing, although.. I can't not see a hand gripping a gray penis with a flat base and no balls. I look forward to hearing about PSVR2 though!

Don't worry, though. The retail version will include balls and a big vein running up the shaft. Live in your world, play in ours.