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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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geordiemp

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Oh boy... Here we go...


PS5 in Performance Mode uses a dynamic resolution with the highest native resolution found being 3840x2160 and the lowest native resolution found being approximately 2432x1368.

Xbox Series X in Performance Mode uses a dynamic resolution with the highest native resolution found being 3840x2160 and the lowest native resolution found being 1920x1080.

 
PS5 is pushing 12-bit in both, 4:4:4 HDR 12-bit 60Hz and 4:2:2 HDR 12-bit 120Hz (but LG CX for some reason acknowledges it as 8-bit) according to Vincent on HDTVtest.

I keep hearing this, but how are we sure the PS5 is pushing 4:4:4 12b? Didn’t we determine its limited to 32gpbs? Why would the CX be “misinterpreting” the Sony signal and not the XsX?
 

kyliethicc

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I keep hearing this, but how are we sure the PS5 is pushing 4:4:4 12b? Didn’t we determine its limited to 32gpbs? Why would the CX be “misinterpreting” the Sony signal and not the XsX?
There's no reason why it would be wrong. 32 Gb/s bw is enough for 4K @60 w/ 12b HDR 444 RGB.

Its just not enough for that same video at 120 Hz, so it drops down to 422 YUV to fit into the 32 Gb/s bw.

As far as I know, the XSX just can't output 12 bit color HDR at 4K 120 Hz RGB 444, so it uses 10 bit.
 
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SSfox

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They downgraded the PS5 version to make Xbox look better. To reach the performance of PS5 Xbox still has to drop the resolution more... LOL

Looks like optimization issue, and the game still looks like it's on its beta. Before patch both were same resolution, now PS5 have a significant lead in resolution, the gap is overall even bigger now even tho both versions seems to still need some works in few areas., in a sens not too surprising for an Ubisoft game lol Glad i didn't bought it day one (i was too close to actually...)
 

Reficul

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Jesus. I'm sick and tired of reading about 4-2-2, 4-4-2, 4-4-4. I'm happy with the output my TV is delivering.

I wish there was still 5 months left to release. The thread was more fun with the speculations before.

Oldmanyellsatcloud.gif

Edit: spelling mistakes. Sorry, have had a couple of beers.
 
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Jesus. I'm sick and tired of reading about 4-2-2, 4-4-2, 4-4-4. I'm happy with the output my TV is delivering.

I wish there was still 5 months left to release. The thread was more fun with the speculations before.

Oldmanyellsatcloud.gif

Edit: spelling mistakes. Sorry, have had a couple of beers.
Well, from this point on it will be PS5 vs Series X with Series X performing some fps under PS5 and stuff. Best we got is Bo posting abount some PS5 exclusives and people "WoW CRazY DEtailS ahahah CraIG whErE ARe U".
Now the magic is all on playing.
And fucking finally I would say.
 

Zadom

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Am I the only one who watches these videos thinking they are shitty porn movies and just want the good stuff to start ASAP? :messenger_beaming:

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inflation

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Got Platinum on the best* launch game!
CEB2-B6-FA-7240-4748-851-C-3937-E6-BD37-D2.jpg


* because it’s free

It was an amusing adventure, and I didn’t feel tired at all. Great gameplay because you need to think and combine your tools throughout the whole game. Kinda remind me of some BotW mechanics. The game is really fun and people should give it a try despite the graphics.
 
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MistBreeze

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ok one week ps5 impressions:

- the ui is great... the sounds, the presentation... every game take the whole space with theme and sound every time you hover on its icon
even the ui sound is amazing... and the best thing about it ... it is very very fast
yes it is minimalistic but to the point and beautiful... it feels like ps4 and ps3 aesthetic merger with new touches

- system functions are on the side ... messages pop in a corner ... every thing make sure u r not taking out of ur games and buttery smooth pop and u can reply or dismiss it
- the control centre really grew on me it is fast like really fast effortless yes it takes many steps to do something ... but it is very fast and not take u out of games u can do messages, make parties, share screen, see ur friends and join online session from it easy
- the launch line up so far are great ... I played only miles morales and demons souls and having a blast ... I think it is the best playstation launch line up ever

best features for me:

- the fast loading on games and fast ui
- the play time count... finally
- now u can capture videos on 60fps and it is so much better and clearer from ps4 captures and not slow like ps4 to capture videos and not blurry mess anymore

minor issue:
I was having the front usb bug issue preventing me from charging my controller in rest mode ( but now fixed after downloading firmware update yesterday

and had crash issues in miles morales in fidelity mode but changed to 60fps mode and no crash anymore
 

sircaw

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ok one week ps5 impressions:

- the ui is great... the sounds, the presentation... every game take the whole space with theme and sound every time you hover on its icon
even the ui sound is amazing... and the best thing about it ... it is very very fast
yes it is minimalistic but to the point and beautiful... it feels like ps4 and ps3 aesthetic merger with new touches

- system functions are on the side ... messages pop in a corner ... every thing make sure u r not taking out of ur games and buttery smooth pop and u can reply or dismiss it
- the control centre really grew on me it is fast like really fast effortless yes it takes many steps to do something ... but it is very fast and not take u out of games u can do messages, make parties, share screen, see ur friends and join online session from it easy
- the launch line up so far are great ... I played only miles morales and demons souls and having a blast ... I think it is the best playstation launch line up ever

best features for me:

- the fast loading on games and fast ui
- the play time count... finally
- now u can capture videos on 60fps and it is so much better and clearer from ps4 captures and not slow like ps4 to capture videos and not blurry mess anymore

minor issue:
I was having the front usb bug issue preventing me from charging my controller in rest mode ( but now fixed after downloading firmware update yesterday

and had crash issues in miles morales in fidelity mode but changed to 60fps mode and no crash anymore

Don't show your dirty face around here until you have platinum Bugsnax, no excuses.

Seems like you really like your ps5, happy for you :messenger_grinning:
 

Shmunter

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Got Platinum on the best* launch game!
CEB2-B6-FA-7240-4748-851-C-3937-E6-BD37-D2.jpg


* because it’s free

It was an amusing adventure, and I didn’t feel tired at all. Great gameplay because you need to think and combine your tools throughout the whole game. Kinda remind me of some BotW mechanics. The game is really fun and people should give it a try despite the graphics.

That's motivational. Thought it rather trash with the initial hunt, but I'll give it a second look.
 

ArcaneNLSC

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Got Platinum on the best* launch game!
CEB2-B6-FA-7240-4748-851-C-3937-E6-BD37-D2.jpg


* because it’s free

It was an amusing adventure, and I didn’t feel tired at all. Great gameplay because you need to think and combine your tools throughout the whole game. Kinda remind me of some BotW mechanics. The game is really fun and people should give it a try despite the graphics.

That's going to trigger a few people
 

Bo_Hazem

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I keep hearing this, but how are we sure the PS5 is pushing 4:4:4 12b? Didn’t we determine its limited to 32gpbs? Why would the CX be “misinterpreting” the Sony signal and not the XsX?

Watch Vincent's videos (HDTVtest), his AV receiver for example shows 4:2:2 12-bit in-and-out.

PS5HD.jpg


But the tv reads 4:2:2 as 8-bit for some reason, watch his video. Also it's 4:4:4 12-bit at 60Hz HDR so you need HDMI 2.1 even for 60Hz gaming. I'm doing good with my HDMI 2.0 but it's dropping to 4:2:2 instead even for 60Hz HDR.
 
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Games Dean

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Interesting indeed. So rumors from this are:
  • Silent Hill may be revealed at TGA and Kojima is rumored to be working on it
  • GOW Ragnarok gameplay demo has been ready for some time, but Sony is holding off on revealing it due to PS5 demand taking over the headlines
  • MGS Remake had been worked on for 3 years, simultaneously with Demon's Souls. MGS is the game Cerny has been working on (rumor)
The MGS seems doubtful, unless Bluepoint is a bigger Studio than I imagined.

Sorry, I'm a few days late. Just wanted to point out that Bluepoint has definitely been working on two games for at least a year. They've said as much on more than one occasion:





 
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TheGejsza

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Sorry, I'm a few days late. Just wanted to point out that Bluepoint has definitely been working on two games for at least a year. They've said as much on more than one occasion:

I just don't see the remake of MGS. Twin Snake proved that you just can't change camera perspective because this game was made with top-view in mind. Anything I can think of is remakes of Metal Gear 1 and 2. But still... I don't think we need remake of MGS1/2/3...
 
Got Platinum on the best* launch game!
* because it’s free

It was an amusing adventure, and I didn’t feel tired at all. Great gameplay because you need to think and combine your tools throughout the whole game. Kinda remind me of some BotW mechanics. The game is really fun and people should give it a try despite the graphics.

yeah, I also got it yesterday. enjoyed it. kinda wished they at least tried to make better graphics but...
catching some bugs was like "wtf am I supposed to do?!" but then you figure out you need one bug to attack the other.
was sick of waiting for the goddamn rain so that "rain bugs" would pop up in the world.
I was worried my trophy (fully turn every person) was glitched but I figured out you transform that Shelda girl by donating bugs to her box

Astro and Bugsnax are done. Bought Sackboy and Godfall before ps5.
Sackboy platinum can NOW be done only through SharePlay but I don't know if anyone on my list has it.
Godfall didn't even start. Hope it's not too much grinding. I think the tower trophy could be hard.
Excited about Worms Rumble and Rocket Arena. Love those online only platinum. Worms looks so fun and I was praying that it would be on PS+
 
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sinnergy

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Watch Vincent's videos (HDTVtest), his AV receiver for example shows 4:2:2 12-bit in-and-out.

PS5HD.jpg


But the tv reads 4:2:2 as 8-bit for some reason, watch his video. Also it's 4:4:4 12-bit at 60Hz HDR so you need HDMI 2.1 even for 60Hz gaming. I'm doing good with my HDMI 2.0 but it's dropping to 4:2:2 instead even for 60Hz HDR.
That’s because 4:22 is compressed enough to fit in the 2.0 spec , maybe they reserve stuff for the tempest engine ..

60 Hz should be doable at 4:4:4 RGB with HDR 4K and 12 Bit I think . (But could be 10 bit)
 
Watch Vincent's videos (HDTVtest), his AV receiver for example shows 4:2:2 12-bit in-and-out.

But the tv reads 4:2:2 as 8-bit for some reason, watch his video. Also it's 4:4:4 12-bit at 60Hz HDR so you need HDMI 2.1 even for 60Hz gaming. I'm doing good with my HDMI 2.0 but it's dropping to 4:2:2 instead even for 60Hz HDR.

I think it’s an issue with the CX. the problem is it also is showing 4:2:2 12bit. You can’t get 4:4:4 HDR currently. XsX can no problem.
 

oldergamer

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Right, they just can't use DSC.

And they aren't doing anything that would require DSC. DSC is only needed for crazy resolution / color depth combos and whatnot. But maybe XSX hardware itself has no ability to disable DSC? Doesn't seem like what he was trying to even say in that video, he was more saying Denon can't fix it.
Im not sure what you guys mean. There is an option to force 422 for 4k tvs that have visual problems. Its been supported since xbox one x.
 
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