It's also easier for Sony devs I guess. The PS4 firmware is still being developed in Japan and we know Japanese devs aren't the best when it comes to low-level coding.
They said that? Where? If yes please post here.
I think lockart will be the odd one out for 3rd parties
They can include 4GB DDR4 for such tasks. (i hope)
I measured a full capture payload once for this reason - it is ~1GB .. Still using 3.5-1 = 2.5GB - seems way too much imo
My thought is that the actually underlying OS shouldn't be using anything like that much .. When a game stars background apps stop (?) (maybe not chat, and what else?) - its basically one application at a time. The multitasking/threading kernel should be using single figure percentages of a CPU (like it does under windows) .. not really use why they ever needed to reserve 2 cores ??
It's all speculation at this point
What kind of source do you want?
$299 vs $499 will be a huge price gap for casuals. No way Anaconda will have the biggest user base. Anaconda is for enthusiasts, just like X.
I said ps5 and snek combined user base will be bigger than lockart, they will also share a more common spec. So it makes sense for devs to target the common spec that just so happens to have the biggest combined user base and downport to lockart
That's why im not convinced lockart is 4tf/12gb, i don't think it will be enough to maintain parity at 1080p with the 4k twins assuming they have 12tf/24gb
Yea they will work on high end consoles, and scale down.
I never said will be a entire streaming machine mind you.
Sure, but still he keep coming breaking my speculation. If those windows central info is right, Microsoft will push the Azure, dunno if will be in that way I posted, but anw, 'Speculation'.
64Gb or nothing!
How it's gonna be bigger when Lockhart is supposed to be cheaper?
You're thinking of downporting and Anaconda being the lead platform, while I'm thinking of the exact opposite, just like the leak says:
Party chat uses the TrueAudio DSP.
Not many people know this, but decompression is also handled by an ASIC (Zlib/LZ77).
Yeah, it's the AMD VCE/UVD block, which has been been replaced by VCN in Raven Ridge APUs.
I don't buy "hybrid local & cloud" rendering solutions. There's too much latency/packet loss to make it reliable.
You think I buy? Gosh. Neither I believe that, but its important to note the Microsoft have a historic in this 'cloud' area. They could do that, believe you or not.
If lockart surpasses PS5 sales, MS wins next gen.
Im thinking ps5 and snek together will be lead platforms since they'll share a more common spec, its the most convenient thing to do for devs.
32GB is the max they can offer with GDDR6, but 256-bit would be slower vs 384-bit 24GB (good compromise + 4GB DDR4 for the OS).16GB would be really disappointing.
Can't think of any other gen where they only added x2 the amount of RAM. Other gens have seen far more dramatic increases in the amount of RAM.
PS1 - 3 MB of RAM
PS2 - 36MB - a x12 increase
PS3 - 512 MB - a x14 increase
PS4 - 8000MB - that's a x16 increase over PS3.
And we are really expecting only a x2 increase for the PS5? Even 24GB would be a very small jump considering previous gens.
Imagine another x16 increase. We lookin at 128GB of RAM boyz
24GB would be the perf/buck sweet-spot considering the fast ssd will act as an extension of ram for streaming assets so less ram will be wasted to do cache/preloading of assets.
If we get 20GB usable for games (4gb reserved) it would be a 5x jump
Personally I'm only interested in PS5 & Anaconda, but I realize I'm not the majority.
Because ps5 and snek would share a common spec, its more practical to design your game around the common spec and then downport to the odd one out.
Even a fast SSD wouldn't have made up for that.Nope, the OS consumed 50MB only (32MB on XBOX 360):
www.engadget.com
No. PS3 had 256MB GDDR3 for the RSX and 256MB XDR for CELL, the difficulty was this static division meant devs coulnt use more than 256MB for the GPU but later in the gen i believe devs used tricks to get the rsx to use some of the xdr memory. Also keep in mind CELL was no traditional CPU as it handled GPU tasks (vertex workloads and post-process effects).
24gb with 20gb available for games would be a 5X jump not 3x
Nope, the OS consumed 50MB only (32MB on XBOX 360):
70MB of additional RAM unlocked for PS3 developers
It's rare for a console to get a spec upgrade in the middle of its life. However, Sony has stealthily upgraded the PS3 over the past few months to unlock additional usable RAM for developers. Much like the PSP received a boost in clock speed, the latest firmware updates provide developers an...
It is what it is, everyone wishes RAM was cheaper, but alas, it isn't.
For me next-gen goes like this:
SSD > CPU > 3D audio > GPU > RAM
The exact same static division also exists on gaming PCs and nobody complained about it. I agree that UMA is better though, especially for combined CPU/GPGPU tasks.
No, this isn't true. It's just that initially the PS3 OS consumed 120MB of RAM with almost zero features, so devs had less RAM to work with.
24GB (20GB usable) would be fine, 16GB would be aneminc
??? You start your post with "No" but then seem to agree with me?
Some people argue that GCN (7xxx) is an evolution of VLIW4 (6xxx).
I agree its not ideal but its the best we can get without breaking the bank. Half the jump (5x vs 10x) is cushioned by the very fast ssd cache 5GB/s+ vs 20MB/s
I disagree with your assumption that most ps3 games only used 256mb
I presume it is to give devs a target spec.
I imagine because it would double costs of power consumption
I was talking about the client hardware, not the backend.
It doesn't matter, unless they plan to make exclusive games for Stadia that are not possible anywhere else, including PS5/XB2 and their custom sauce. Do they plan to do that? We'll see.
Navi PC launched next month will use GDDR6.
