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gaming_noob
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I can only play at night when the kids are sleeping and we live in a small condo. Noise will not be tolerated so Xbox it is...
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Agreed, but at least give some of us an option.
I am ok for a "pro" version to launch day 1.
Cause right now i am building a new pc this year.
When the new team green cards come out.
And i will be skipping the new consoles. If they turn out to be not that impressive.
And end up getting them when the exclusives are there.
joe_zazen
Member
So lockhhart and the requirement that every multiplat game has to run on it is going to fuck the generation? I guess were are stuck with 4tf and what...like 8gb ram as baseline till 2027? MS fucks things up again.
What is the point if having the most powerful console if all gsmes have to run on pos weaker than last gen?
and sony making a loud console sucks but at least that doesnt fuck with multiplats.
What is the point if having the most powerful console if all gsmes have to run on pos weaker than last gen?
and sony making a loud console sucks but at least that doesnt fuck with multiplats.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Last thing before I head out to shoot pool, the first post today was very literal. I'll be back on (far from sober) later.
Venom Snake
Member
Because they are idiots. This is the reason why we should not imitate them in every field.
saintjules
Member
CCN you mean?
DaGwaphics
Member
Cross-gen won't last long, if it does the old consoles are still anchors. Lockhart is probably set to limp through the generation.
CyberPanda
Banned
Team Green Card ftw. Ampere
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Sounds like the weakest one is hotter and louder than it needs to be.
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joe_zazen
Member
lockhart means the whole gen is cross gen, still we’ll get a few games ‘made for next gen‘ games on ps5. The one that will hurt when it comes out though is gtavi. Give rockstar 20-24 gb and 10+tf as baseline.
ABrokenToy
Member
Pretty sure Main Course would be XSX and Little Brother is Lockhart.
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vpance
Member
Have fun, and thanks for confirming!
It’s almost like you can’t handle a speculation thread without trying to drum up console war drama.
If this is all you would like to contribute, then scroll on by without hitting post.
Reindeer
Member
He specifically mentioned "loud and hot in the kitchen" in the same sentence when talking about PS5.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
night shifts to day = very literal.
wtf does that mean? something happening in the morning tomorrow?
joe_zazen
Member
devs decide where to spend resources, it isnt all about resolution. Fewer resources, less things can be done. So if a game has to fit into 8gb memory and run on a cut down gpu, even if it is targeting a lower resolution, sacrifices will be made in design vs designing for a higher baseline.
as an extreme example, a dev could use all 10+ tf and 20+gb ram to make a 1080p game with giant world, lots of physics etc. That game wouldnt work on lockhart.
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Reindeer
Member
Let them cut out content, drop resolution below 1080p and drop assets to low or below that to teach Microsoft a lesson. In no way shape or form should games suffer because Microsoft wants more of a share in the market.
I'm guessing two years 2020 and 2021 you will see versions of both games out. Then in 2022 no more previous generation versions of games.
ABrokenToy
Member
He never even said the words PS5. He said 2 out of the three run hot and one is loud too. Main course to me indicates XSX.
Reindeer
Member
I doubt a 4 tflop machine is going to be that loud.
LordOfChaos
Member
[Digital Foundry] PlayStation 5/ Xbox Series X New GPU Spec Leak Analysis: 9.2TF vs 12TF?
It either resembles the retail chip, or it’s an early test chip for Sony to get working on backward compatibility. And the real chip is better. Let’s hope for the latter. Keep in mind the docs are only 6-7 months old. Highly unlikely anything drastic would change with out a launch delay They...
He said the PS5 was loud before today's posts
There's no doubt
SX = hot
PS5 = hot and loud
Lockhart = the dumb brother people don't like programming for, no reason it wouldn't be the quietest
If the SX with its size and shape were the hot and loud one it would not be a good look, Microsoft also prioritized sound much more than Sony already in the 8th gen.
He's also betting a year of swapped avatars that the PS5 is the more powerful, so it kinda makes sense thermals are hard to manage.
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Reindeer
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It's definitely refers to PS5 since Series X was confirmed to be quite and Lockhart is running small 4 tflop GPU.[Digital Foundry] PlayStation 5/ Xbox Series X New GPU Spec Leak Analysis: 9.2TF vs 12TF?
It either resembles the retail chip, or it’s an early test chip for Sony to get working on backward compatibility. And the real chip is better. Let’s hope for the latter. Keep in mind the docs are only 6-7 months old. Highly unlikely anything drastic would change with out a launch delay They...www.neogaf.com
He said the PS5 was loud before this last one too
Samanosuke Akechi
Member
PS4 base was under 2tf in 2013 and mine was jet engine during killzone and tlou.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Kdad
Member
CCN not CNN
vpance
Member
He just confirmed my post with the brain emote. Lockhart is the loud one.
Generally it doesn't make sense to be both hot and loud. If you are well then your box really sucks.
joe_zazen
Member
may very well happen, and might be the reason devs hate working on LH. No one wants to spend their days making crap
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Reindeer
Member
Nice way to ruin a joke
Kdad
Member
Stadia is quieter you monster
Reindeer
Member
It doesn't make sense for Microsoft to make a loud console after all their consoles have relatively quiet this gen, especially after drumming home about Series X being quite.
Samanosuke Akechi
Member
What is this “Stadia” ? Can I eat it?
LordOfChaos
Member
With a 28nm APU...Performance per watt going into 2020 on 7nm is very different. Unless they completely bork the Lockhart cooling design, there's no reason it's the loud one.
Besides, he's called the PS5 loud before, in what I linked above
Tarkus98
Member
Well if we are talking $500 to $600 for a ps5 then we are definitely not looking at a 9.2Tflop console.
I’m ok with a reasonable amount of noise, but can be heard from across the room? Fuck me, better be a damn small room.
Anyway, I’m still in the $400 to $500 (max) cost and 12 +/- Tflops camp for ps5. No Pro at release and stacked HBM memory (no clue how much, 16 to 24GB range?).
I’m ok with a reasonable amount of noise, but can be heard from across the room? Fuck me, better be a damn small room.
Anyway, I’m still in the $400 to $500 (max) cost and 12 +/- Tflops camp for ps5. No Pro at release and stacked HBM memory (no clue how much, 16 to 24GB range?).
Samanosuke Akechi
Member
True. I don’t see a modern Xbox being loud. Has to be the PS.
44alltheway
Member
Oh shit that boy Osiris is dropping shit TONIGHT !!
Samanosuke Akechi
Member
Oh I know. Just saying tf number isn’t necessarily indicative of noise level.
LordOfChaos
Member
44alltheway
Member
BTW, I think the two hot consoles are obviously Series X and PS5, and the loud one being the PS5 as well. The leaked devkits make it look like a damn vent, so I feel its going to be pretty loud at least for now. Hopefully that is changed by the time of release, but I honestly don't have too much hope considering how both the PS4 and PS4 Pro turned out.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
From my time at a studio, they didn’t like having to make games on the weaker machines when they had to do cross gen. It held back resources, and every producer and designer in there was saying they can’t wait until they can drop it and put more or all of the resources into the more powerful box.
Now imagine that all gen long instead of the first year or two. This was first party mind you.
44alltheway
Member
I think its him saying that he is literally going to start spilling info tonight.
Kdad
Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Dude, he literally brain reacted the post saying it was Lockhart, which makes sense, it has no business being loud at 4TF.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
there is no single way to cool a console. just because ms went with a cube design doesnt mean it's the only one let alone the best one.
Hawking Radiation
Member
There is no way the PS5 is that loud.
Sony's not stupid. The PS4 and Pro have seen many complain about noise, me included.
Sony has also stated they will be releasing a premium product. Hot and loud does not scream premium to me.
Something is off here.
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Tarkus98
Member
Catch and question him when he comes back all wasted and get him to spill the beans!!
Hehehe.
Reindeer
Member
At least PS5 exclusives won't be held back. Lockhart could really hamper multiplats, but then again devs might it treat it like they're treating Xbox One (720, 25fps) as time goes on.
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