Kazekage1981
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If that is true, man that's gonna suck for Microsoft.
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If that is true, man that's gonna suck for Microsoft.
Gamernyc78
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TLZ
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TheStruggler
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Huh no shit hell if I knew
CuriousToe
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I'm not following. Explain this exchange to me like I'm 5.
Kazekage1981
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PS5 having *slightly* more TFLOPS, better SSD. ray tracing implementation, and even more RAM (16 GB for games as oppose to 13 GB), more exclusives.,....
Nothing about it seems like they are twins.
uhhhh yah, Microsoft you better have zen 3, HBM 2, RDNA 2.0 with SSD 7g/sec, USB 4.0 or something up your sleeve. Please surprise me
Nothing about it seems like they are twins.
uhhhh yah, Microsoft you better have zen 3, HBM 2, RDNA 2.0 with SSD 7g/sec, USB 4.0 or something up your sleeve. Please surprise me
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TheStruggler
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Can I get the quite where he said this going to hugh jackman gif it after
Imtjnotu
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Fuck man idk if I can search the last hundred pages lol
bitbydeath
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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Dual GPU and no ray-tracing isn’t going to happen. I can't believe TLZ's pastebin dumpathon from the spring about double gpus is still kicking around.
FrozenFlame
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You misunderstood, it wasn't an "exchange". I was talking about the phone charger because the battery bar triggered me.
TLZ
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Are you summoning Dim on purpose?
CuriousToe
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For what it's worth, I think
OsirisBlack
clearly has some information. However I'm careful to treat this stuff with a healthy dose of skepticism. The scenario where PS5 has more TFLOPS, better SSD, and a (rumored) better RT solution ... Means that Microsoft has been outplayed on multiple levels OR we don't know something, whether that be price of 'secret sauce' related (if such a thing exists).
I know Microsoft stuffed up the XB1 launch. However I find it hard to believe they've been outplayed on specs given their focus and messaging on the topic of power. It doesn't line up for me and I think we're missing something. Either that or Sony is ready eat a bigger loss than MS can stomach.
Either way it sounds like we're getting two consoles that are very capable.
CuriousToe
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You misunderstood, it wasn't an "exchange". I was talking about the phone charger because the battery bar triggered me.
Oh. Thanks for clarifying. I thought you were implying that a ton of replies/messages were about to come through.
Imtjnotu
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You're doing God's work. I love youNext-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Dual GPU and no ray-tracing isn’t going to happen. I can't believe TLZ's pastebin dumpathon from the spring about double gpus is still kicking around.www.neogaf.com
Kazekage1981
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Naw naw naw, its 12.2 TFLOPS with FP32 Precision!!! OR GCN TFLOPS! Osiris fuckin with us.. Bwahahah!
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Rightisright
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"Guesses"Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Dual GPU and no ray-tracing isn’t going to happen. I can't believe TLZ's pastebin dumpathon from the spring about double gpus is still kicking around.
Gamernyc78
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StrongGuy
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For what it's worth, I think
The scenario where PS5 has more TFLOPS, better SSD, and a (rumored) better RT solution ... Means that Microsoft has been outplayed on multiple levels OR we don't know something, whether that be price of 'secret sauce' related (if such a thing exists).
I know Microsoft stuffed up the XB1 launch. However I find it hard to believe they've been outplayed on specs given their focus and messaging on the topic of power. It doesn't line up for me and I think we're missing something. Either that or Sony is ready eat a bigger loss than MS can stomach.
Either way it sounds like we're getting two consoles that are very capable.
I agree, but you also have to consider that SONY would be a far more valuable customer than Microsoft's Xbox division for a lot of hardware suppliers due to far greater volume. Maybe it's not Microsoft getting outsmarted but more like SONY getting better parts for a cheaper price.
44alltheway
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OsirisBlack
, any word on how far back Sony’s backwards compatibility goes? Again thanks for the juicy info!
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CuriousToe
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Volume deals are a thing but we're talking incremental cost/savings. I don't think this would be a significant factor in the final specs for each console.
LED Guy?
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Yeah I do not think there will be differences between those 2 at all, maybe a little bit....like:PS5 having *slightly* more TFLOPS, better SSD. ray tracing implementation, and even more RAM (16 GB for games as oppose to 13 GB), more exclusives.,....
Nothing about it seems like they are twins.
uhhhh yah, Microsoft you better have zen 3, HBM 2, RDNA 2.0 with SSD 7g/sec, USB 4.0 or something up your sleeve. Please surprise me
PS5:
12.6 RDNA TFlops.
16GB GDDR6.
8 cores 16 threads at 3.2 GHz.
Xbox Series X:
12.1 RDNA TFlops.
16 GB GDDR6.
8 cores 16 threads at 3.5 GHz.
Gamernyc78
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Don't use reason lol ppl here think Microsoft gaming division has a trillion to spend bcus the company is worth tht and you know there diff and don't have budget projections for each dept
Kazekage1981
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That would be a neutral gamers wet dream. I highly doubt it though.
Samanosuke Akechi
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Could you link me a post? curious.
LED Guy?
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I hope this happens.
And if this happened, which console would be more powerful for real?
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StrongGuy
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Don't use reason lol ppl here think Microsoft gaming division has a trillion to spend bcus the company is worth tht and you know there diff and don't have budget projections for each dept
Yeah, the theory that the Xbox division had access to 100s of billions of dollars was just delusional fanboy nonsense. It's highly likely that the Xbox division has the lowest funding its ever had in its existence, and higher quality parts just wouldn't fit in their small budget.
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Kazekage1981
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I hope this happens.
And if this happened, which console would be more powerful for real?
You got me there.
it depends on what you want to do with the games. Highest graphics setting PS5 should win, Higher Framerates XSEX should win. This is just my guess coming from building PCs and doing research on different gpu and cpu affects in games.I hope this happens.
And if this happened, which console would be more powerful for real?
TheStruggler
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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Dual GPU and no ray-tracing isn’t going to happen. I can't believe TLZ's pastebin dumpathon from the spring about double gpus is still kicking around.
if ps5 gets edge
It's a few posts in the Xbox first party thread.
Xbox Game Studios |OT7| Discover Your Next Favorite OT
Fixed :-P I’ve actually been pretty excited (for me) for Xbox in general recently.
www.resetera.com
Xbox Game Studios |OT7| Discover Your Next Favorite OT
Sort of like an Uncharted 4 situation. Continuing creative differences that lead to other issues. But that’s just what I’ve heard, and like I said, that’s not unusual for Halo and it’s generally worked out in the end. And if it makes you feel any better, I’ve heard quite the opposite for a few...
www.resetera.com
Xbox Game Studios |OT7| Discover Your Next Favorite OT
That sounds right, but that’s entirely off the top of my head and I’m not sure exactly why I think that. I expect great things.
www.resetera.com
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The Mad Draklor
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It's not so much a wet dream when it's actually very probable.
HeisenbergFX4
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No worries I don’t mind people questioning my thoughts.
I know I am kind of on an island with my picks and I may very well have them backwards.
I don’t mind if I am wrong and honestly being a Sony guy first I almost hope I am.
saintjules
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I was looking for that too and didn't see anything recent in the Timeline.
GermanZepp
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For what it's worth, I think
The scenario where PS5 has more TFLOPS, better SSD, and a (rumored) better RT solution ... Means that Microsoft has been outplayed on multiple levels OR we don't know something, whether that be price of 'secret sauce' related (if such a thing exists).
I know Microsoft stuffed up the XB1 launch. However I find it hard to believe they've been outplayed on specs given their focus and messaging on the topic of power. It doesn't line up for me and I think we're missing something. Either that or Sony is ready eat a bigger loss than MS can stomach.
Either way it sounds like we're getting two consoles that are very capable.
I know shit about tech, dont know who is going to be the most powerful, but i really really think that ps5 is going to be the same price as xbox or cheaper. Most expensive not a chance. I remember Shu talking about the moment MS revealed the price of xone and how they almost lose their minds of joy.
So in my head the stages are: PS5 less power better pricing.($399 vs $499) or PS5 equal pricing with marginal better spcecs and they eat some cost.
Samanosuke Akechi
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It's a few posts in the Xbox first party thread.
Xbox Game Studios |OT7| Discover Your Next Favorite OT
Fixed :-P I’ve actually been pretty excited (for me) for Xbox in general recently.Xbox Game Studios |OT7| Discover Your Next Favorite OT
Sort of like an Uncharted 4 situation. Continuing creative differences that lead to other issues. But that’s just what I’ve heard, and like I said, that’s not unusual for Halo and it’s generally worked out in the end. And if it makes you feel any better, I’ve heard quite the opposite for a few...Xbox Game Studios |OT7| Discover Your Next Favorite OT
That sounds right, but that’s entirely off the top of my head and I’m not sure exactly why I think that. I expect great things.
Thanks
XcloudTimdog
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Wtf is this !
Bet your account. Trust me you are so wrong. Mod of war say the word. !!!!!Wtf is this !
XcloudTimdog
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Orisis Black dm me lets bet accounts on whose is more powerful. No more make pretend. Until i get dms, not returning until the news is final. Hint, 12 wins the race. See ya all as soon as its official. Its a promise
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demigod
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Bet here so we all can see it.
Self High Five
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For what it's worth, I think
The scenario where PS5 has more TFLOPS, better SSD, and a (rumored) better RT solution ... Means that Microsoft has been outplayed on multiple levels OR we don't know something, whether that be price of 'secret sauce' related (if such a thing exists).
Technically Sony could have an advantage in all those areas but it's minor enough that it will make little difference in real world results. Also the CPU count could be clocked higher on Series X to further mitigate the difference.
I'm just guessing though.
No really, I'm actually guessing
GlassAwful
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Y'all need to pay more attention.
While Osiris claimed PS5 is slightly edging out the SeX he also insinuated the SeX has a much better and much quieter cooling solution, at least with the devkits he's got information about.
He just said a couple pages ago MS have much more headroom for upping clocks. If he is accurate it would seem MS current choice of clocks along with its design are conservative for any number of reasons while Sony's are pushing the limits of its current cooling/case design. This leaves MS in a position to easily up specs if need be while maybe not so much for Sony.
It's in both companies interest to not reveal their hand too soon so they don't end up in a spec war trying to one up each other in clocks to the point their designs are strained. Not to mention, higher clocks, lower yields, more inconsistent perf across the population.
If the rumors are true don't be surprised to see MS bump the clocks to take the GPU perf crown, but they won't do it until they have to.
Either way, I hope they are true, I also hope they both end up with fast SDDs despite the rumors pointing to an advantage one way. The more homogeneous the consoles the better all games will be.
While Osiris claimed PS5 is slightly edging out the SeX he also insinuated the SeX has a much better and much quieter cooling solution, at least with the devkits he's got information about.
He just said a couple pages ago MS have much more headroom for upping clocks. If he is accurate it would seem MS current choice of clocks along with its design are conservative for any number of reasons while Sony's are pushing the limits of its current cooling/case design. This leaves MS in a position to easily up specs if need be while maybe not so much for Sony.
It's in both companies interest to not reveal their hand too soon so they don't end up in a spec war trying to one up each other in clocks to the point their designs are strained. Not to mention, higher clocks, lower yields, more inconsistent perf across the population.
If the rumors are true don't be surprised to see MS bump the clocks to take the GPU perf crown, but they won't do it until they have to.
Either way, I hope they are true, I also hope they both end up with fast SDDs despite the rumors pointing to an advantage one way. The more homogeneous the consoles the better all games will be.
ethomaz
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My faith in i343 doing a good Halo is near 0.It's a few posts in the Xbox first party thread.
Xbox Game Studios |OT7| Discover Your Next Favorite OT
Fixed :-P I’ve actually been pretty excited (for me) for Xbox in general recently.Xbox Game Studios |OT7| Discover Your Next Favorite OT
Sort of like an Uncharted 4 situation. Continuing creative differences that lead to other issues. But that’s just what I’ve heard, and like I said, that’s not unusual for Halo and it’s generally worked out in the end. And if it makes you feel any better, I’ve heard quite the opposite for a few...Xbox Game Studios |OT7| Discover Your Next Favorite OT
That sounds right, but that’s entirely off the top of my head and I’m not sure exactly why I think that. I expect great things.
I hope they can surprise me.
Gamernyc78
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Everybody for months have been insinuating Microsoft will up clock's but thts easier said then done. Last thing Microsoft wants is to take a chance in having another rrod scenario.
CuriousToe
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What happened to the YamikaG information? I thought you were on board with that?
Samanosuke Akechi
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Here’s some more PS5 fan made box arts.
OsirisBlack
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I had heard "DAY 1" full PS4 Bc anything outside of that would be news to me.
Rightisright
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Halo 4
VGA best 360 game.
VGA best graphics award.
9.5/10 IGN
Halo 5
9/10 IGN
Don't even act like you know how Halo plays.
Samanosuke Akechi
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CuriousToe
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I hope Microsoft are paying you well.
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