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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Chromata

Chromata

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~Fake said:
This is a good reminder for some. Microsoft even created a program to help pay the next gen console.

news.microsoft.com

Upgrade to Project Scarlett with Xbox All Access

Gamers in the UK will be able to upgrade to Xbox’s next-generation Project Scarlett console in 2020 as part of a new All Access programme being rolled out.
news.microsoft.com news.microsoft.com
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It's an excellent idea, you'll get everything you need for a great gaming experience without any big upfront cost.

I don't think Sony can offer the same since PS Now isn't nearly as good as Game Pass for modern games.
 
Fake

Fake

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Chromata said:
It's an excellent idea, you'll get everything you need for a great gaming experience without any big upfront cost.

I don't think Sony can offer the same since PS Now isn't nearly as good as Game Pass for modern games.
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Agree. Wish Sony could make a deal for trade my PS4 plus the differencial price of PS5.
 
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BattleScar

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Chromata said:
It's an excellent idea, you'll get everything you need for a great gaming experience without any big upfront cost.

I don't think Sony can offer the same since PS Now isn't nearly as good as Game Pass for modern games.
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It wouldn't take much for them to improve the value proposition for PSNow as a direct response to xCloud/gamepass.

I'd wager they'd want to compete at the very least.
 
DeepEnigma

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OsirisBlack said:
Don't expect to see PC levels of RT in games, I was told that the RT performance is like the emulated (Slapped ON) solution on the 1080ti and destroys performance.
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Right out of the gate and the current state of the tools, I expect this with everything enabled.

As tools and solutions mature, I expect it to improve as well. Even Crytek had some decent success with just software RT on AMD cards when optimized in tech demos.

PC will always have an advantage, it’s a modular platform of brute forcing, but I would think this would improve over time on consoles compared to whatever measurement your sources are taking now.

Personally, I don’t need full blown RT, but piecemeal with combined rasterization techniques. Shadows and some AO uses with the rest being raster would still be a leap over now, with not as much of a hit compared to full blown RT everything.
 
JLB

JLB

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R600 said:
No, he said E0 stepping for custom SOC is "tremendous". As in, surprising. Which it is.

His only mistake was him mixing PCI IDs, as he was referring to Ariel. Here, his own spreadsheet.



Notice he ties AMD 00840F40 (so 5th stepping, from F00 to F40) with Ariel.

But AMD 00840F40 PCI ID is 13F9 and he even confirms it here.



And what is 13F9? Its Oberon.

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So he assumed Ariel got 5 revisions, but in fact going by his own code, its lumped together - Ariel and Oberon (00840F00 being Ariel A0 13E9 to Oberon C0 13F9 and 00840F40)
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so who’s gonna win 2020 election?
 
Hawking Radiation

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OsirisBlack said:
Man walks into a dimly lit room, light bleeds across the room from a shoulder mounted communication device. It is the most light in the scene. There is a light mist and sparks spew from a torn electrical wire tossing light and particles around as the man cautiously makes his way across the room. His boots leave prints as he walks across the polished floors the dim light showing his reflection in the floor. The wire behind him cracks and slows as it comes to a stop along with all of the other lights in the room shutting off at the same time. The man covers the device on his shoulder but the light bleeds through his hand. The man pulls a firearm and continues making his way through this large sterile room. A noise behind him and he turns around removing his hand from the device at his shoulder and revealing himself to everyone. The light illuminates the room and a table he had walked past has been knocked over. The table cloth is still slowly settling on the floor along with all of the other things from the table that have been strewn about. Off in the distance a pair of yellow eyes open and fix on the man. (You will know who he is but I cannot say) he raises his fire arm and fires off several shots. The flash from the gun illuminating the darkness as the creature reels then attacks. Another set of eyes opens as it runs across the room at him. You can see the impact of the weapon punching holes in this thing as it makes its way across the room. The man backpedals and falls down (Monster is right on top of him at this point) over something as he is trying to get away. He fires off a few more shots while on his back and scampers to his feet. The monster still chasing he makes his way into the next room and slams the door behind him. You hear a series of clicks and other weird noises coming through the door. The man leans up against it and you hear a deep inhalation come from the other side of the door like the creature is sniffing around for his scent. The man is breathing heavily and removes one hand from the door and clutches his side, blood is running down his side and his pant leg and pooling under the door. Last shot is the creature kneeling on the other side of the door putting one hand to the blood (creature has four arms) then smelling it. "I have found you." He almost sings the words then the title screen shows and that's it.

Lets see if anyone else can get this detailed. It is the best looking anything that I have ever seen and the character models lighting and physics are on another level. The main character is impossible to confuse with anyone else and this game has not been revealed but I have hinted at it several times. This is not a cut scene or a render target it is actual game play and it is very impressive. Well the end is a cut scene but man ..... You literally cannot tell the difference and Yes



This was definitely all one shot.

Edited to add: I was just given the go ahead to post this and it is from an early vertical slice that I did get to see.
And before anyone asks No I cannot describe what the man is wearing because it would be a dead giveaway.
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Shoulder device?

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Shoulder device casting light?
OsirisBlack said:
Man walks into a dimly lit room, light bleeds across the room from a shoulder mounted communication device. It is the most light in the scene. There is a light mist and sparks spew from a torn electrical wire tossing light and particles around as the man cautiously makes his way across the room. His boots leave prints as he walks across the polished floors the dim light showing his reflection in the floor. The wire behind him cracks and slows as it comes to a stop along with all of the other lights in the room shutting off at the same time. The man covers the device on his shoulder but the light bleeds through his hand. The man pulls a firearm and continues making his way through this large sterile room. A noise behind him and he turns around removing his hand from the device at his shoulder and revealing himself to everyone. The light illuminates the room and a table he had walked past has been knocked over. The table cloth is still slowly settling on the floor along with all of the other things from the table that have been strewn about. Off in the distance a pair of yellow eyes open and fix on the man. (You will know who he is but I cannot say) he raises his fire arm and fires off several shots. The flash from the gun illuminating the darkness as the creature reels then attacks. Another set of eyes opens as it runs across the room at him. You can see the impact of the weapon punching holes in this thing as it makes its way across the room. The man backpedals and falls down (Monster is right on top of him at this point) over something as he is trying to get away. He fires off a few more shots while on his back and scampers to his feet. The monster still chasing he makes his way into the next room and slams the door behind him. You hear a series of clicks and other weird noises coming through the door. The man leans up against it and you hear a deep inhalation come from the other side of the door like the creature is sniffing around for his scent. The man is breathing heavily and removes one hand from the door and clutches his side, blood is running down his side and his pant leg and pooling under the door. Last shot is the creature kneeling on the other side of the door putting one hand to the blood (creature has four arms) then smelling it. "I have found you." He almost sings the words then the title screen shows and that's it.

Lets see if anyone else can get this detailed. It is the best looking anything that I have ever seen and the character models lighting and physics are on another level. The main character is impossible to confuse with anyone else and this game has not been revealed but I have hinted at it several times. This is not a cut scene or a render target it is actual game play and it is very impressive. Well the end is a cut scene but man ..... You literally cannot tell the difference and Yes



This was definitely all one shot.

Edited to add: I was just given the go ahead to post this and it is from an early vertical slice that I did get to see.
And before anyone asks No I cannot describe what the man is wearing because it would be a dead giveaway.
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Light emitting from shoulder device?
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Shoulder device?
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Werewolves have yellow-ish glowing eyes. This one remarked how he could smell Galahad in the room after wiping Galahads blood from the floor.
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This posts is talking about a new The Order 1887 on next gen consoles.

If Ready at Dawn again focuses on story telling over all out action they could allocate a whole lot of resources to visuals which would again set a benchmark for next gen visuals as The Order 1886 has done at the start of this gen.

Ray tracing seems a perfect fit for a game like The Order with its unique atmosphere of dirty, grimy industrial revolution London city.
 
Hawking Radiation

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OsirisBlack said:
I understand what you're trying to say but it won't and it can't. Had a very long discussion before typing this up as to not make a complete ass of myself but the assets made for the first game even though they were made on PC would not have reached the level of fidelity of the assets created for the new game targeting a more powerful spec. They would add features that would have not even made the previous game despite it being made on PC due to the impossibility of them being added to the target machine. This is also why Beyond Human while achieving better fps and resolutions on PC is largely visually the same as PS4 pro. This is what I was told and I just about copied and pasted that from a text.

Not that Dramatic.



I know you really don't believe that Sony while trying to sell a $500 console is going to release their exclusives at the same time on PC as they do on their own platform.







I think people will be surprised by how much of that trailer is actual game play. As far as other games yes I have seen a bit of two from one studio and one from another. One is a sequel, the other is Sci Fi and from the same studio. The third is going to be KILLER when it releases. The sequel is the best looking game I have ever seen and I have been hinting at it constantly. I have never seen anything that looks this good on ANY platform. If its not the new graphical standard I have no idea what will be.



Stated before and still standing on it, I haven't heard anything about PS1,2 or 3 Bc. Not saying it isn't happening just saying that if it is I haven't heard anything at all about it. Only heard about PS4 Bc.
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Thanks mate. Much appreciated. As another user put it. Your posts make the waiting for next gen news much more manageable.
Also we wouldn't want you to put in harm's way your industry sources so I completely understand I you're not willing to answer certain questions.
Have a great day further.
 
Soadi

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I don't think it's The Order guys since they're working on a brand new IP (they confirmed it last year) and just noticed this on RAD website:

"We’re currently creating games for both AAA console and virtual reality audiences.."

So it probably is multiplatform.
 
hunthunt

hunthunt

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So with the rumours of Dragon Dogma 2 and Factions coming to PC coming from different but credible sources can we confirm the leak of the PlayStation show insider being February 12 and the 12TF Ps5 being true?
 
thismeinteil

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~Fake said:
You're forgetting the reason of PS5 getting BC with PS4. PS4 will not disapear by the day `PS5 release. The transition between those two will be more smoth than PS3 to PS4 because of the similarities with hardware architecture.

Again, I not saying will be higher than $599, just saying to folks for not put that possibility off the table. $499 or higher is the bet.


Spencer said to you the price of seX? What is the current price of Xbox One X?

Even better, what was the price of PS4 and Xbox One at launch?
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Sony has proven that they are comfortable taking a deeper loss on their HW when compared to MS. They took a ~$300 loss on the PS3 because they knew an entry point of $599 would kill them completely. They definitely don't want to take that kind of hit anymore, which they won't have to now with the way they are making these consoles. They had the more powerful system this gen, yet priced it at $399 vs MS's $499. Same thing happened with the Pro, only the X was more powerful because it came a year later. MS could have taken the hit and priced their systems at the same price as the PS4, but they didn't.

Gaming isn't as big of a deal to MS as it is to Sony. PS is one of Sony's main pillars for the company, so they need their system to take off. At the beginning of this gen, Bill Gates said he would be fine with getting rid of Xbox, like some shareholders wanted. I think Nadella wants to see if he can make a big success with Xbox, whether it be through streaming or HW or both, since this will be the first gen that will start with him as CEO. Still, don't expect him to ok losing billions to push HW, as he won't want those shareholders breathing down his neck like they did Balmer and Gates.

Now that they are using semi-custom off the shelf parts, there's no way that the PS5 is going to cost ~$800, like the PS3 did. Or even $700-$750, which is what it would have to cost for them to even consider pricing it at $599. I mean, how much do you expect the parts to cost to get you to that manufacturing price when you take into consideration bulk discounts? Just guesses here, but RAM might be $125. Maybe $150 for the SDD. Let's say everything else, minus the APU itself, costs $125. That's $400. That would leave $100 for the APU, IF they were just trying to break even. Considering they will most likely take a $100-$150 hit, that's more like $200-$250 left over for their APU.
 
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Pirlosuj

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In the PSMeeting Sony reveals the specifications? Or do we have to wait for the gdc for specifications leaks from both consoles?
 
squarealex

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Its funny this "leak" of Reedit bc this

-TLOU: Factions will be revealed, coming to PS4, PS5 and PC these holidays. It is a multiplayer only title made to replace the "Factions" mode of the original TLOU. It features an open world similar to games like DayZ, but with the love and care that you can expect expect from a team like ND.
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Can be related by this

www.dexerto.com

Is The Last of Us 2 coming to PC? Naughty Dog job listing drops big hint - Dexerto

A Naughty Dog job listing asking for experience with NVIDIA cards has sparked speculation that The Last of Us Part II could make its way to PC.
www.dexerto.com www.dexerto.com

Fans first discovered the job listing on Naughty Dog's website, which lists a position for graphics programmer. The job post reads "a through understanding of current GPU architectures," which includes NVIDIA.
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And this

gamingbolt.com

Sony’s New Multiplatform Publishing Strategy Should Be Lauded

gamingbolt.com gamingbolt.com
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DeepEnigma

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Hawking Radiation said:
Shoulder device?

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Shoulder device casting light?


Light emitting from shoulder device?
images


Shoulder device?
images


Werewolves have yellow-ish glowing eyes. This one remarked how he could smell Galahad in the room after wiping Galahads blood from the floor.
images


This posts is talking about a new The Order 1887 on next gen consoles.

If Ready at Dawn again focuses on story telling over all out action they could allocate a whole lot of resources to visuals which would again set a benchmark for next gen visuals as The Order 1886 has done at the start of this gen.

Ray tracing seems a perfect fit for a game like The Order with its unique atmosphere of dirty, grimy industrial revolution London city.
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Man, I wish so much! Day 1!
 
SlimySnake

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That leak sounds straight up fantasy but if it turns out to be true for some bizarre reason, i dont know how i'd feel about that conference.

1) demon souls remaster sounds cool. especially if it has deep down visuals.
2) ariel and vehicle combat in uncharted and ratchet? yes please.
3) kz mp with 80 player maps and massive destruction? omfg yes.
4) tlou factions? sonys first gaas game with pve? all over my face. though not a fan of it being cross gen. lets ditch this gen for good please. learn from MS's mistakes sony, dont copy them ffs.
5) now end with horizon teaser? nope. that needs to be the launch title. kz, ratchet and demo souls arent going to do anything against halo. you need that one big game that defines that generation. i'd rather they focus on getting horizon 2 out on day 1 then some mp only games with remasters that simply wont set the bar you need to set at launch.
6) good to know gt7 wont be cross gen like forza. thank god. this will be the first test for MS's cross gen strategy. we will see what differences cross gen vs next gen exclusives might have next gen.
7) i like sony reinvesting in multiplayer. fucking finally. after an entire gen of bitching they are finally doing this. i really hope this leak is true because this is what ive been asking for all gen. im so tired of playing bad mp games with devs who have no clue wtf they are doing. respawn drastically slowing down titanfall's combat in TF2 mp. DICE butchering BFV after the fantastic BF1. Bungie repeatedly fucking up over and over again for 6 fucking years. Bioware fucking up anthem; division 2, ghost recon, blops 4. its been an entire generation of devs contiuining to fuck up. we need sony devs from the kz, resistance and tlou teams to turn up and show third party devs how to do online games.
8) two pc ports. both online only. i can live with that.
9) not many third party games. i have zero faith in ac ragnorak and its likely cross gen so fuck that. i expected to hear about gta6 and rocksteady's superman game but i guess even for fake leakers, thats a bridge too far.
10) still, if they start with horizon 2 and make it a big demo then this will be the greatest conference of all time. we have heard rumors of pretty much all of these games so even if this leak is total bs we will still see most of these games sometime next gen. but if we get them all in one conference along with bc with ray tracing then my god.
 
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Pirlosuj

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What would happen if Sony does not give specifications (Tf numbers to be specific) in the PSMeeting and only show games and features?
 
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