Psycho_Mantis
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I'm asking Reiko. Yes or No? There are so many insiders and "insiders" on this board its hard to tell who we can trust.
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Next Xbox Reveal Set For May 21, 10:00 A.M. PST, Livestreamed
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I'm asking Reiko. Yes or No? There are so many insiders and "insiders" on this board its hard to tell who we can trust.
XtremeXpider
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Wider field of view = no tilt motor needed.
Angelus Errare
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Short answer: No
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
He's merely talking about the newest posted "specs" that were posted on pastebin on the 14th, and as a results wants the rest of you to temper or raise expectations because they could turn out to be real. But at the same time doesn't really want you to think he's the one propagating this hope or is the center of this.
SenjutsuSage
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All this really tells me is that you don't realize where the real problem is at Microsoft. It isn't at the top. Microsoft would more or less still be exactly where they are right now or worse -- more than likely worse -- with anybody else but Steve Ballmer at the helm. You call it playing catch up, and maybe you have a point there to a degree, but there are times when it's to a company's benefit to see what's out there and then release their own solution.
Android, to a large degree, is where it is now because they observed and then did something different, because no matter how dominant one side may look, people are always searching for something new. People get tired of things, even rather impressive things. It happened to Blackberry, it's sorta happening to Apple, and mark my words, it will happen to Android. In fact, I already see signs that it's happening to Android.
The real question now becomes how proactive will Android and Apple be in preventing the inevitable? Signs so far suggest that both are being pretty damn smart to not stagnate, but Microsoft, even if perceived as being late to the party, is far less stagnant than either of those two, as shocking as that may seem. Google and Apple aren't exactly lazy, but pay close attention to Microsoft on the surface side, on the windows phone side, with outlook.com, with the improved msn.com, bing, with Windows 8 (even before Blue's arrival), with Xbox 360, with Office, Xbox music etc, and it paints an overall picture of a Microsoft more aggressive and more productive than they've ever been. And this is all without even the reveal of the new Xbox and what that will bring to the table.
Lack of adoption at the speed some would like to see isn't always a sign of an inferior product. Windows Phone right now is mighty impressive. In fact, I think it's the most impressive of all smartphone operating systems and has more or less been trending that way since the Mango update. The problems that people perceive being at Microsoft has nothing to do with the leadership at the top, but more to do with the individual teams and the leadership among those teams. It isn't true for all teams, but execution matters.
For the most part, we're dealing with some solid to fantastic products, but the execution and design of some of those products can sometimes not come anywhere close to meeting their full potential on the first go around, which is honestly true for Apple's as well Google's products also. I don't believe at all that being first is necessarily always what's most important. I think showing up and doing something slightly different and interesting enough that people are attracted to it and want to give it a shot, and the company having the ability to stick to it and properly support and update it matters far more than simply just being at or near the top of the pile for market share.
If Microsoft had turned their attention away from certain aspects of their business to venture off into different areas too soon, they would have more than likely put Windows at risk, and the wonderful release that was Windows 7 might not have even happened in the first place.
I also still think Microsoft has an extra ace up their sleeves, when they decide to release Office on iOS, something I'm sure will happen in time.
Psycho_Mantis
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REMEMBER CITADEL
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Cheers. You're up pretty early, must have gone rather easy on those gin tonics last night
Phonomezer
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Different teams of people probably know different things about the development of the new Xbox, including specs and software. Any leak would be easily traced back to the offender and they'd get sacked and shitlisted.
That's one scenario anyway, lol.
Ninja Moomin
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Sony's objective is the same - to create a strong platform in the living room to sell software and services. Don't pretend anything else.
The only real difference between them is MS have windows and sony have more horizontal integration with the ability to make music, movies and TV alongside hardware.
Both of them are chasing the same objective.
Beyond that the differences are that MS have made a much better job of it in the states, and that Sony have been terrible at integrating across their organisation. There's no good reason why Xbox Music should be better than Qriocity (or whatever they are calling it today) - other than Sony not being able to get their act together.
If / when they do though, it's going to be a really interesting ride.
China Dont Care
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Lol he runs wild because there's no real consequence obviously. He dangles that spec bump over our heads like he actually knows it's true, but then acts like it's just him being hopeful and that we shouldn't doubt a significant spec bump is all. 20 CU's from 12 is pretty significant. He may just be doing wishful thinking, but his posts come across as he knows the truth and we just need to wait til the 21st.
Yes
But it would still limit the choices you have of where you can put it and of course it will not be built in. Not if the Xbox is just as big as a tablet good morning, italy!
Gemüsepizza
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Weird comparison. You can improve your gaming experience with more powerful hardware, but you can't really do the same for phone calls with better hardware in mobile phones.
how is going here ...reiko gone crazy?
Nah, but by the looks of things, quite a few feathers have been ruffled by his beliefs!
Satchel said:
sorry bro...all I had :]
GOOD IDEA!
But didn't kidbeta tell us that the hardware is fixed since a long time and that nothing could be changed? Where is the risk to release the specs then?
K
kittens
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okay, but only because you asked nicely
Bad analogy. Nobody buys a smartphone primarily for the phone, as there are far cheaper dumb phones that do that just as well, if not better. Heck, most people don't even check how good the call quality is on a smartphone before they buy it.
By contrast, gamers buy a new console specifically for enhanced games compared to older consoles. Anything else is icing on the cake.
Phonomezer
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Ninja Moomin
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by the way....#
GOOD MORNING GUYS.
Really not long now.
Two sleeps and one day at work.
Anyone up for some halo anniversary co op on Tuesday to pass the time?
GOOD MORNING GUYS.
Really not long now.
Two sleeps and one day at work.
Anyone up for some halo anniversary co op on Tuesday to pass the time?
Cheers. You're up pretty early, must have gone rather easy on those gin tonics last night
used too
3 gin tonics and 2 chupitos ( u call chupito the little drinks? ..the shoots boh)
Phonomezer
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used too
3 gin tonics and 2 chupitos ( u call chupito the little drinks? ..the shoots boh)
That's like... an entrée!
Alx
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Yeah, I want the game pad to have a stand thingy that goes "click" just because.
Seriously, if the Surface was a hint of the console's build quality, it would be a great thing indeed.
But didn't kidbeta tell us that the hardware is fixed since a long time and that nothing could be changed? Where is the risk to release the specs then?
How long do you think it takes to make a APU.
I said its been fixed for a while because of the testing and validation it has to go through but some people seem to think this doesnt matter :/
China Dont Care
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I hope that shit click
Phonomezer
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Ninja Moomin
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so it is impossible for consoles to make the same transition?
Lets hope they can because they aren't going to survive in a few years when your tablet / phone streams media to every other screen in your house otherwise
That is a significant spec bump, is there any substancial information behind? Like something on vgleaks an not someone's wild dreams?
he confirmed that marcberry is talking about a patent withtout understanding the paper
Consider the context of my post - this wasn't meant to you. But somehow you seem to wait for specific posts and seem to constantly watching. Why?
He said he's is talking crap
and marcberry's entire argument was that the VSP's are 4x as powerful
Therefore he just confirmed that its not true.
Angelus Errare
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I'll state what I did pages ago. If MS' specs are different from the leak, it was something MS decided back in early 2012 not February 20th of 2013. Anyone who thinks MS saw Sony's press conference was like "herpa derpa, chance the system specs!" is...well delusional.
You won't get that, Vapor Mg is incredibly expensive and not the most efficient of processes in terms of shaping.
You'll get...ABS plastic with some nice texturing. It's hella cheap and the manufacturing process is ridiculously simple, which by extension means replacement parts are cheap and easy to manufacture.
You won't get that, Vapor Mg is incredibly expensive and not the most efficient of processes in terms of shaping.
You'll get...ABS plastic with some nice texturing. It's hella cheap and the manufacturing process is ridiculously simple, which by extension means replacement parts are cheap and easy to manufacture.
this could be..but bkillian was the one of 7970 in devkits ...so forget about 1.2tf
really i dont wanna restart
What are you trying to say?.
devkits are always more powerful then the final machine. They have to use off the shelf parts at first after all.
The PS4 most likely contained a 7970 as well, so PS4 can forget about 1.8TF amirite?
And then Sony announced 8 gb of gddr5 instead of 4. Amazing, isn't it?
in my world u dont use a 7970 to emulate a 1.2 gpu...
and no theres no any logic explanation to this coz there r more close gpu that could emulate...
Prediction: Microsoft isn't going to go the anti-consumer route that's been rumored. The nextbox will be as dev-friendly as the PS4. The key difference will be that Microsoft will also be heavily targeting casuals, unlike Sony who is focusing squarely on core gamers. I expect a lot of talk about motion controls and media hub features.
Basically, I think MS wants both the 360 owners and the Wii owners to jump on board. They might just be able to do it. I imagine a Wii Sports with realistic graphics and sound and enhanced controls would be appealing to many casuals.
That said, the console-war-loving side of me wants to see Microsoft bomb hard.
Basically, I think MS wants both the 360 owners and the Wii owners to jump on board. They might just be able to do it. I imagine a Wii Sports with realistic graphics and sound and enhanced controls would be appealing to many casuals.
That said, the console-war-loving side of me wants to see Microsoft bomb hard.
Yep, double the density ram is amazing, because it doesn't require you actually redesign anything.
There actually really isn't. not when you take into account the bandwidth as well, they need to simulate 200GB/s ~ .
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