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Next Xbox Reveal Set For May 21, 10:00 A.M. PST, Livestreamed
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Maximilian E.
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Yeah, the whole VSP premise that that Marc guy was talking about did sound a bit unrealistic..
However, BKillian himself have said in other threads that he does not know the whole picture of Durango either, he left MS some 6 months ago or something similar.
So even though he perhaps have shot down this one (due to lack of comprehension from that Marc guy).. there still could be (most likely is) things we dont or things that the VGleaks does not show..
Oh, I forgot you already said this a thousand times before and I forgot that we were talking about differences in dev-kits and final hardware and that some people can't stay at topic. My fault.
Angelus Errare
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That's probably going to happen. I expect it in fact.
Neko Mimi Mode
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My crappy attempt hastily thrown together in a few minutes...
Maximilian Kolbe
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It seems you know how to summon him,when you call his name,he just arrive so quickBut didn't kidbeta tell us that the hardware is fixed since a long time and that nothing could be changed? Where is the risk to release the specs then?
Miles Quaritch
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25 pages later and the mind numbing spec garbage is still going strong?
Jesus, just let it go.
Jesus, just let it go.
I really wish they do so. This would be massive.
Nothing is confirmed, actually.
Well I trust bkillian, someone who actually worked on the machine over any leaks.
GarthVaderUK
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2 MORE SLEEPS!
Angelus Errare
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I wonder if any people in thread had the same thoughts in regards to Xbox 360's leaked 2004 specs.
the dev kits have double the ram.
Ninja Moomin
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only the very early ones.
Usually over time there a several iterations that get closer to final hardware - until a few month before launch they get the final hardware in devkit form.
Before the sony event the reason no one knew about 8gb was that they all had 4gb kits - and those had already been upgraded from 2gb.
It is entirely possible the leaks we have are from an early version of the kit.
Maximilian Kolbe
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BKillian said he left MS 6 months ago at late 2012 i think?so maybe he left MS 1 year right now?
He worked in engineering sound to help design the audio chip and has said that he was separated from much of the rest of the teams. Don't know if it was a "machine" yet. Just a chip in theory as a part of the whole
Ninja Moomin
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Welcome to 2010 - it's called Kinect.
Angelus Errare
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I've heard about moving goalposts butI think I've seen it all now :[
How is that moving a goalpost when it's correct?
i think more..than 1 year
The leaks (are supposedly) from white papers detailing the final architecture. Maybe its changed I guess, maybe not we will see.
something fishy
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so basically it is confirmed as underpowered?
so he works on it and wants to set expectations? sadly that will kill it for me. I'm not buying a weak system that my pc and the ps4 outpower so easily.
well that's a shame, I've been a big fan of the Xboxes.
Its never been underpowered, he just destroyed a crazy rumour is all.
I was genuinely surprised to see the Dual Shock 4 having a rubber like texture on the back. I thought only third party controllers actually gives a fuck about that.
Nice move by Sony.
Yeah but now they're not segregating the Xbox userbase by releasing it 5 years down the line. imo that's why all we got was shovel ware.
Oh, ok then. Must be confirmed then. <facepalm>
...from over a year ago.
if it is true, we'll only hear about it through leaks. Even Sony didn't state in their presentation how many CUs or TFs they have. If MS is lower they certainly won't. They'll just go 'advanced GPU blah blah, compute shaders blah blah, 8 core CPU, 8GB RAM, esram high bandwidth'
and thats at most.
just like they won't talk about always on DRM or no used games.
white papers of one design...that could be one of the 3 or 4 designs..yawn this becoming boring
Neko Mimi Mode
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Nothing is confirmed.
He didn't destroy anything.
This kind of Tales From My Ass peddling as fact from Juniors should be bannable.
To reiterate: The reveal is in 2 days, stop talking about spec rumors.
Miles Quaritch
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SenjutsuSage
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something fishy
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Miles Quaritch
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from what i know bkillian worked as audio engineer or somethng
and he said just that the audio block (Shape) ..to emulate it ..ps4 should use MORE than all the cpu
he and intereference just confirmed this...nothing about gpu
this from (((inteference))) on b3d
"The SHAPE audio block alone is more than 100GF (though it can't really be counted that way since it's not general purpose FLOPS). The alpha kits had an extra 8 CPU cores to emulate the sound block but even that wasn't enough processing power so they never implemented the emulation
That's also where some early rumours of Durango having a 16 core CPU came from.
I don't think the PS4 has similarly capable fixed function audio hardware, so this helps compensate for the extra CPU core that's reserved on Durango."
and he said just that the audio block (Shape) ..to emulate it ..ps4 should use MORE than all the cpu
he and intereference just confirmed this...nothing about gpu
this from (((inteference))) on b3d
"The SHAPE audio block alone is more than 100GF (though it can't really be counted that way since it's not general purpose FLOPS). The alpha kits had an extra 8 CPU cores to emulate the sound block but even that wasn't enough processing power so they never implemented the emulation
That's also where some early rumours of Durango having a 16 core CPU came from.
I don't think the PS4 has similarly capable fixed function audio hardware, so this helps compensate for the extra CPU core that's reserved on Durango."
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SenjutsuSage
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He worked on the audio processor of the console. That doesn't mean he can't know more, but we have to keep in mind what precisely his specific role in the project was.
I pray this is sarcasm, because there will be great looking games that I enjoy on even the Wii-U, and no way in hell that's going to be stronger than the next xbox. Did people suddenly not like the Persona titles because they were on the PS2? I'm not saying specs don't matter. They are important, but they aren't the be all end all. There can still easily be amazing looking and fantastic playing games on the rumored new Xbox specs that we've seen put out by vgleaks. I think people totally have the wrong idea of what's more important here. It damn sure isn't the specs. It's the games. If developers can't produce fantastic games that look and play great on those specs, if those specs turn out to be accurate, then I would blame the developers, not the hardware.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Yes!
Right in the feels. Played it for a friend and the bit with
Kaim's daughter dying
I think we're going to see a sequel on the Next Xbox.
sorry to see you go soldier. ... this is the HYPE thread. two more days .
Monty Mole
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Psycho_Mantis
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Well compared to last gen its a sizeable jump worthy of next gen. Compared to the PS4 those specs are underpowered.
Angelus Errare
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Well, here's 360's leaked specs from over a year before launch
Not saying the leaked specs are what you're going to get. But from a logical and manufacturing standpoint I'd say there's a 65% chance it's not going to deviate from the leaked specs much. If the Xbox does have different specs, it was something MS decided shortly after leaked specs were documented and detailed. I can say with certainty that any decisions to go in a different direction with hardware wasn't made in February of 2013.
Really I think if all of gaming GAF took a crash course on hardware manufacturing, die fabrication, yield testing, process shrinking timelines in how they factor in the development stage, as well as the basics of hardware (memory controller and how it affects processors, latency, etc). I'd say GAF conversations would be much healthier.
China Dont Care
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something fishy
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somewhat guilty I admit.
I love games but I do like a system that can push great visuals.
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