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NFL Week 15 2010|OT| - Let's All Just Move West!

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Owners' Perspective on the Labor Issues:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/17/AR2010121702560.html

Rookies should be paid fairly, but they should not be among the highest-paid NFL players before playing a single down. Teams don't like it. Veterans and retired players don't like it. Fans don't like it. And the players' union shouldn't like it, either.

Earlier this year, Sports Illustrated published a list of the 50 highest-paid American athletes. Five 2009 NFL rookies were on the list, averaging nearly $21 million in total income for their rookie year. Every other athlete on the list was a proven veteran.

Our current system of paying rookies doesn't make sense. In 2009, 256 drafted rookies signed contracts calling for $1.2 billion in compensation with $585 million guaranteed. This year the numbers increased to $1.27 billion, including $660 million guaranteed, for 255 draft choices.

No other business operates this way, and no other union gives its entry-level hires such privileges. The system is so bad that some teams no longer want picks in the top part of the first round of the NFL draft. The cost is too high, especially if a player taken that early turns out to be a bust....
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Under our proposal, mandatory contract lengths would be five years for first-round players (six years for quarterbacks), four years for second- through seventh-round picks and three years for undrafted rookies (as I was). Players and teams would be able to renegotiate and extend the initial contracts of first-round rookies after year three, and after year two for all other rookies.

Under the proposal, the first pick in the draft would sign a five-year contract and receive a $5.34 million signing bonus and $1.5 million salary his rookie year, even if he does not play a single down. In years two and three, his salary would be set at $1.7 million and $1.9 million, respectively. His fourth- and fifth-year salaries would rise to $2.3 million and $2.9 million for a total package of $15.6 million. (If he is a quarterback, he would be paid $4.3 million in year six.) The first pick would still be paid well, but at a much more reasonable level than under the current system.

By eliminating individual negotiations, a rookie wage scale should have the added benefit of reducing the influence of agents on our college campuses. Having served as a college athletic director for 16 years at Colgate and Northwestern, I know firsthand that even one unscrupulous agent who chooses to break NCAA rules can cause serious problems for a college and its players, resulting in the forfeiture of games, championships, awards and scholarships.
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eznark said:
Sweet! The Bears looked terrible in the snow, maybe your team has a chance to save a modicum of dignity from this season
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With the way the season's gone I expect see AD get BoJacked, Percy's head will finally explode, and we'll trade Sidney Rice to New England to get our 3rd round pick back.
 
Agents are gonna be pissed cause they spend so much time pushing to lock these juniors and seniors up.

Fuck Matt Flynn. That sack/fumble cost me a loss by 2.6 points. God damn.
 
Talon- said:
Agents are gonna be pissed cause they spend so much time and money pushing to lock these juniors and seniors up.

Fuck Matt Flynn. That sack/fumble cost me a loss by 2.6 points. God damn.
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Fixed.

I wonder how the draft will be handled this year if both sides are negotiating this issue. Will teams make their selection and wait to sign the picks?
 
Favre has been upgraded to questionable. Bears are about to get Favre'd. I predict 3 TDs, and, since he's just a kid out there, 2 snow angels.
 
DeaconKnowledge said:
Cowher will never be the Giants coach, unless they're desperate to fire Coughlin. There's no real difference between the two.
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If the Giants don't make the playoffs, or simply beating Green Bay, there's a chance they might look elsewhere. The team owners were livid based off last season's second half.
 
Talon- said:
Agents are gonna be pissed cause they spend so much time pushing to lock these juniors and seniors up.
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If they can spin it that way I'm guessing the public will absolutely be on the owners side. People HATE agents.
 
The Proposed set Rookie Cap, as a NCAA fan, is interesting to me. Could seriously help keep players for their Senior Year (the ones that really shouldn't leave early but do anyway.)
 
BTW thank you to the Packers for helping me win my semi-finals fantasy game. You held Wes Welker to only 4 points. :D I was rooting for you also, I wish you had won that game.

Now the Dolphins, I was thinking about the game and honestly we played the same way we play every game. It wasn't a meltdown, it wasn't terrible play. We played our game and the only difference between this game and the ones we win is that Carpenter missed all his FGs. That is it, he hits those and we get the usual 20-17 victory, ugly defensive win.

There lies the problem, our entire offense is designed around being satisfied with FG kicks. Sparano loves Carpenter too much, I bet the playbook cover has a picture of Carpenter. He has a shrine for him in his home. You cannot be a serious playoff contender if your offense is kick a FG.

The Cowher talk is interesting, I would fire everyone if it is a sure bet we can get him. I dont care if I see this coaching staff back, I love the defense so I hope Nolan stays but everyone else can pack their things and go.
 
Holy shit Henne said "We have been booed at home the last few games, we are used to it now."

You are not supposed to get used to it you stupid fuck, you are supposed to be ashamed that you guys play like shit in front of the home audience. People pay good money to see you play and every time you play in your HOME you stink up the joint. He needs to get the fuck out of this team, out of this city. He needs to take that giant head that doesn't fit in his helmet and leave this city forever.
 
Siebzehn50 said:
Wait, you're four years older than me? The way you talk about your age I always thought you were late 30's, maybe early 40s.

Where in Indiana do you live? I'm up north, near South Bend.
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Just west of Cincy
 
dolphins tears :lol

A pretty decent weekend of football, overall. Just going to keep watching quietly/patiently until the Jets can close the deal and get into the playoffs. Then, I can be all up in this bitch as usual.
 
ph33nix said:
Chad Henne is a robot.

I was so wrong about you :(
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He has never said anything interesting since he is been here. He is a PR robot. He might be pissed that they take him out for the wildcat but does he say anything, nope, its RoboHenne "Its what the team tells me to do so I do it"

Maybe behind doors he is a vocal leader but I HIGHLY doubt it.
 
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:lol
 
One more thing, if any fellow Dolphins fans are out there right now, what about our running game. This year has been a disaster running the ball compared to what we were used to the last few years. Ricky claimed he is going to retire. Brown, he has had his moments, he was great in the past but he is injury prone and this year has been bad. Maybe it has more to do with the line, but I do think we need to start looking for a RB which sucks cause that has been our strong spot the last few years. Watch us find a QB but not solve our RB issue, just like old times.
 
captmcblack said:
dolphins tears :lol

A pretty decent weekend of football, overall. Just going to keep watching quietly/patiently until the Jets can close the deal and get into the playoffs. Then, I can be all up in this bitch as usual.
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Wuss. You should live and die with your team.
 
a funny thing about the owners complaints on rookie salaries.... THEY ARE THE FUCKING ONES WHO ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN!

i don't side with the players or the owners, they are both greedy millionaire assholes. but are you fucking kidding me owners? YOU are the ones who started this outrageous salary starting point for rookies coming in and now you want a do over. i don't disagree that it has to be re-done but that money then needs to funnel back to the players somehow. ridiculous
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
a funny thing about the owners complaints on rookie salaries.... THEY ARE THE FUCKING ONES WHO ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN!

i don't side with the players or the owners, they are both greedy millionaire assholes. but are you fucking kidding me owners? YOU are the ones who started this outrageous salary starting point for rookies coming in and now you want a do over. i don't disagree that it has to be re-done but that money then needs to funnel back to the players somehow. ridiculous
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I'd guess that perhaps it will be funneled back to the players. Otherwise I doubt the contract would go through. Perhaps a higher Salary Cap, or huge increase in Pension funds. Who knows, I don't.


About the Barkley Audio, the part in the quote is in the last 3 minutes or so. Whole interview is pretty good, but this part is near the end.
 
captive said:
anything less than Kubiak being gone next year is the wrong move. I'm not going to waste my time with this team anymore until they get a new coach, one that will make the players play for 60 minutes. One that can see his mistakes and fix them.
How many times has the Texans offense come out flat? And then what happens when they pick up the pace and or go no huddle in the second half? Crazy thought, why not open the game in a no huddle/fast paced offense! Kubiak is supposed to be an offensive genius yet its the same shit every game with the offense. And he obviously cant hire a good defensive coordinator as the defense has sucked ever since he's been here.

I just dont give a shit anymore.

And Antonio smith is an idiot, he always does shit after the play and hurts his team. I'm not surprised Cushing got in his face for fighting with that Titan player and then Smith can't cool the fuck off he knocks Cushing's helmet off and they get a personal foul penalty.
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What was the deal with Jason Babin being in the victory formation for the last play? Was that really what I think it was?
 
Applesauce said:
What was the deal with Jason Babin being in the victory formation for the last play? Was that really what I think it was?
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He was a failed first round pick of the Texans. Just Tennessee just being a classless organization like its owner.
 
MiamiWesker said:
One more thing, if any fellow Dolphins fans are out there right now, what about our running game. This year has been a disaster running the ball compared to what we were used to the last few years. Ricky claimed he is going to retire. Brown, he has had his moments, he was great in the past but he is injury prone and this year has been bad. Maybe it has more to do with the line, but I do think we need to start looking for a RB which sucks cause that has been our strong spot the last few years. Watch us find a QB but not solve our RB issue, just like old times.
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I think the best thing that we could do this offseason is trade a 2nd round pick for Kevin Kolb, and try and get Mark Ingram in the first round.
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
a funny thing about the owners complaints on rookie salaries.... THEY ARE THE FUCKING ONES WHO ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN!

i don't side with the players or the owners, they are both greedy millionaire assholes. but are you fucking kidding me owners? YOU are the ones who started this outrageous salary starting point for rookies coming in and now you want a do over. i don't disagree that it has to be re-done but that money then needs to funnel back to the players somehow. ridiculous
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Exactly.

I missed Goodell's interview with Costas during the pre game last week...what did he have to say about the labor talks?
 
Giants' meltdown came right on schedule this year. We'll be there to pick up the pieces next week.

And Brent will come back tonight and win one for his old team tonight. The beginning of the healing process begins after he is tragically killed on a QB sneak to win the game with 5 seconds left.
 
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