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Nielsen Report: PC gamers play Halo 1/2 more than CS....w00t
- Thread starter godhandiscen
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The ONLY way this makes sense is that it was meant for PC games, hence the title of "Top 10 PC Game Titles" but it was a list of the top titles, as opposed to write in.
Then a lot of people saw Halo and knee-jerked to that because 'I play Halo!' not realizing that Nielsen probably ...
No...
No..
There's just no f'ing way because Halo 2 is a new release. There's no way it could have play time right next to Halo PC.
GTA is a complete typo in name and in publisher. (And couldn't possibly make sense that it's played on PCs still) MADDEN? On the PC? No. Most stores don't even CARRY that game, let alone people that play it that much on the PC.
And there's no goddamn way Halo is just 40 minutes less use a week than CS.
There's a colossal fuckup here.
AU% is the number of PC users playing the game at many minute. They DO show CS has more minutes spent on it with less of a population, but the disparity isn't big enough. I have a feeling they got a fucked up sample size for this.
Then a lot of people saw Halo and knee-jerked to that because 'I play Halo!' not realizing that Nielsen probably ...
No...
No..
There's just no f'ing way because Halo 2 is a new release. There's no way it could have play time right next to Halo PC.
GTA is a complete typo in name and in publisher. (And couldn't possibly make sense that it's played on PCs still) MADDEN? On the PC? No. Most stores don't even CARRY that game, let alone people that play it that much on the PC.
And there's no goddamn way Halo is just 40 minutes less use a week than CS.
There's a colossal fuckup here.
AU% is the number of PC users playing the game at many minute. They DO show CS has more minutes spent on it with less of a population, but the disparity isn't big enough. I have a feeling they got a fucked up sample size for this.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
godhandiscen said:
Posted a mere 12 hours earlier by yours truly....
Of course, minus the sensationalist hthread title!
ElectricBlue187
Member
Tonedeff said:
:lol oh god GAF you never stop
WhatRuOn said:
I *timed out* at 6018 populated servers in the browser for counter-strike just now. Since we're at off-peak hours right now, I'll show total servers that came up in the picture below before the list stopped going (does not appear to be complete...).
Generalissimo
Member
Can you get steam statistics by country? I'd like to compare Valve's numbers to Nielsen's but Nielsen's numbers aren't global.ZombieSupaStar said:
Callo Merlose
Banned
Must not be counting asians.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
They're not populated servers; most of them have 0 players.
Teknopathetic
Member
"They're not populated servers; most of them have 0 players."
Ho boy.
Ho boy.
cjelly said:
I took screenshots of the unfiltered lists because it's serious off-peak hours right now. 12:45pm eastern on a weekday. No one would be paying for those dedicated servers if they remained empty. And if you would read the text of my posts, I listed the number of currently occupied servers.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Those numbers definately have to be skewed. Has any tried to play Halo 2 online? That game was dead when it came out and it's pretty much completely dead now.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
"'Cept these ain't online numbers, kids."
Logically speaking though you're never playing the bigger titles of that list offline cs, cs:s, wow, etc...
Logically speaking though you're never playing the bigger titles of that list offline cs, cs:s, wow, etc...
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
"That's not relevant to this research. They're tracking average minutes played, no matter what the player is doing, on or offline."
It is though. No one said it was just online numbers, but CS has a bigger following than halo 2 on the pc. I know not everyone plays online but Halo 2 there is pretty much 2 servers with anyone in them if your lucky, I doubt the single player community is that huge and replays it that much to accrue such a high avg minutes played. It becomes pretty hard to argue that halo 2 on pc is a bigger game than either CS or CS:S.
"Yeah. I'm sure hundreds of thousands of people are still playing the Halo 1 single-player campaign for hours on end without ever touching the multiplayer."
This is pretty much it. I can't speak for Halo 1 but Halo 2 is pretty dead in the water and was so shortly after release.
It is though. No one said it was just online numbers, but CS has a bigger following than halo 2 on the pc. I know not everyone plays online but Halo 2 there is pretty much 2 servers with anyone in them if your lucky, I doubt the single player community is that huge and replays it that much to accrue such a high avg minutes played. It becomes pretty hard to argue that halo 2 on pc is a bigger game than either CS or CS:S.
"Yeah. I'm sure hundreds of thousands of people are still playing the Halo 1 single-player campaign for hours on end without ever touching the multiplayer."
This is pretty much it. I can't speak for Halo 1 but Halo 2 is pretty dead in the water and was so shortly after release.
Metalmurphy
Member
urk said:
:lol
On the PC, Halo 1 SP + Halo 1 MP + Halo 2 SP + Halo 2 MP <<<<<<<<<<<<<< CS + CS:S. Period.
Generalissimo
Member
I play Halo PC multiplayer and I've never played it online.Slavik81 said:
Metalmurphy said:
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Slavik81 said:
Look at the data. Both titles aren't even pulling in 2% of the total PC population in any given minute (on average). That doesn't say Halo on the PC is OMG SUPER POPULAR! It says quite the opposite. And if EvilLore's pic of CS:S is an accurate picture of that game's population, then it's easy to see how it would be pretty low on the average as well. Few of those servers are populated. Will they be at peak? Of course. But this data is an average.
What this data says is that most of the time, the overwhelming majority of PC gamers are playing neither. Which is accurate.
And WOW, as expected, is a fucking time sink like no other.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
"I play Halo PC multiplayer and I've never played it online."
No one said it doesn't happen but for you playing it lan and not online at all puts you in the vast minority of that survey.
"Look at the data. Both titles aren't even pulling in 2% of the total PC population in any given minute (on average). That doesn't say Halo on the PC is OMG SUPER POPULAR! It says quite the opposite. And if EvilLore's pic of CS:S is an accurate picture of that game's population, then it's easy to see how it would be pretty low on the average as well. Few of those servers are populated. Will they be at peak? Of course. But this data is an average.
What this data says is that most of the time, the overwhelming majority of PC gamers are playing neither. Which is accurate.
And WOW, as expected, is a fucking time sink like no other."
No one said that survey did say Halo was super popular on pc but it is implying that both halos are more popular than both CSs and that is a pretty unreasonable statement.
No one said it doesn't happen but for you playing it lan and not online at all puts you in the vast minority of that survey.
"Look at the data. Both titles aren't even pulling in 2% of the total PC population in any given minute (on average). That doesn't say Halo on the PC is OMG SUPER POPULAR! It says quite the opposite. And if EvilLore's pic of CS:S is an accurate picture of that game's population, then it's easy to see how it would be pretty low on the average as well. Few of those servers are populated. Will they be at peak? Of course. But this data is an average.
What this data says is that most of the time, the overwhelming majority of PC gamers are playing neither. Which is accurate.
And WOW, as expected, is a fucking time sink like no other."
No one said that survey did say Halo was super popular on pc but it is implying that both halos are more popular than both CSs and that is a pretty unreasonable statement.
Generalissimo
Member
I suppose you think most people play Halo for multiplayer instead of singleplayer.Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
"I suppose you think most people play Halo for multiplayer instead of singleplayer."
Reread other posts before jumping to conclusions that no one said and besides you seem to be underestimating the people who do play it for multiplayer.
Reread other posts before jumping to conclusions that no one said and besides you seem to be underestimating the people who do play it for multiplayer.
Generalissimo
Member
I did and it looks like everybody thinks online is the end-all be-all of PC gaming. I just want to know where Solitaire falls in Nielsen's numbers.Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
edit: yeah i didn't need to say that last part
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
"I did and it looks like everybody thinks online is the end-all be-all of PC gaming. I just want to know where Solitaire falls in Nielsen's numbers."
That's why you quoted me when I agreed with this statement, "Yeah. I'm sure hundreds of thousands of people are still playing the Halo 1 single-player campaign for hours on end without ever touching the multiplayer."?
That's why you quoted me when I agreed with this statement, "Yeah. I'm sure hundreds of thousands of people are still playing the Halo 1 single-player campaign for hours on end without ever touching the multiplayer."?
Generalissimo
Member
Shit. Your lack of quote blocks totally confused me.Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Sorry dude.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
I'm trying to figure out which part of my desk I can headbutt that would kill me instantly.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
"Well you wrote the most one-sided sarcastic comment of the bunch.
Or was it not sarcastic?"
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Or was it not sarcastic?"
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Generalissimo
Member
It looked really crazy because it seemed like you were saying things that went totally back and forth. I see now that you're quoting people with double quotes instead of quote blocks.Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
"Oh Yes.. Major Nielsen said a MS product is being played more than a competitors.. must be true. Yep yep Yep. And your shit don't stink too"
:lol Wait did you mean major nelson?
:lol Wait did you mean major nelson?
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Dalauz said:
The "mass market" doesn't even care!
TransTrender
Gold Member
I vaguely remember the last time someone did a playtime comparison between CS and Halo and it basically broke down that all time played ever for Halo 1 on PC + Halo 1 and 2 on XBL was less than 1 average month of CS (CS and CS:S). But that was about two years ago, but things wouldn't change that much.
Also don't forget the unreal amount of time that people play on LANs that don't connect to the internet...and all the private servers that aren't listed.
Also don't forget the unreal amount of time that people play on LANs that don't connect to the internet...and all the private servers that aren't listed.