DieH@rd said:If im not mistaken, for us europens that is:
6AM GMT
7AM CET
Nice early morning present.
so 8AM here then. Sorry if this has been answered already, but do we know if there will be a video stream of any sorts? Or just live blogs?
DieH@rd said:If im not mistaken, for us europens that is:
6AM GMT
7AM CET
Nice early morning present.
TheChillyAcademic said:SO.
I am still confused as to what exactly a OLED screen is. I went to wikipedia and it might as well have been in Russian, I am not techie >.<
Anyone care to explain it to the clueless gay guy?
Opus Angelorum said:Quite simply an AMOLED display unlike any other display technology does not require any form of back-lighting.
This saves on power, gives true levels of black, brilliant contrast and low response times.
yencid said:
yencid said:
slider said:Despite all the huffing and puffing over 3G the OLED will be the usp I think we'd all agree.
Er, and software/services of course.
Seriously that series of commercials where so freaking awful.Takao said:SCEA really just didn't give a fuck.
Opus Angelorum said:Quite simply an AMOLED display unlike any other display technology does not require any form of back-lighting.
This saves on power, gives true levels of black, brilliant contrast and low response times.
°°ToMmY°° said:what do you think will be the resolution of the screen and its size?
my ideal one would be 960 x 544 (4 times the resolution of the psp1) with a screen size of 4.2.
this would result in:
Display size: 3.65" × 2.07" (9.28cm × 5.26cm) = 262.72 PPI
i think a PPI of 262 is really good and everything more is a bit unnecessary. i have an iphone 4 at home and honestly i can't appreciate the 320 PPI if i don't put my face at 3 inches from the screen. at normal viewings, about 5 or 6 inches from the screen, 262 PPI are more than enough in order to have a crystal clear picture. plus if it's really OLED it will be amazing.
btw, what's the difference between AMOLED and OLED?
you're kidding ... right?xtop said:does sony have it's own oled tech?
more leaks please!
zoku88 said:If by controller, you just mean the thing that controls write/read enables and the actually writing and reading, then that's not what I was talking about.
I mean, you would need a different type of controller for each type of RAM, since they work differently, but it's not like you have one controller for the entire memory hierarchy.
Think of it like this: in the memory hierarchy, you have your RAM and your HDD in there at the bottom. When the processor needs a certain virtual memory address, sometimes it actually maps to a physical address on the HDD. I'm just saying, you could have a hierarchy like this:
Caches (im combining the levels, even though they should be separate) --> FCRAM --> LPDDR2 RAM --> HDD.
Each step has its own controller, of course.
I mean, there's no reason why that isn't possible. The main reason we have a three part hierarchy in most systems is because it really isn't worth it, imo. I mean, price is your main concern and DDR? RAM is pretty cheap and the latency isn't that bad.
slider said:Despite all the huffing and puffing over 3G the OLED will be the usp I think we'd all agree.
Er, and software/services of course.
Father_Brain said:
Years later, it's still like a bad joke.Father_Brain said:
°°ToMmY°° said:what do you think will be the resolution of the screen and its size?
my ideal one would be 960 x 544 (4 times the resolution of the psp1) with a screen size of 4.2.
this would result in:
Display size: 3.65" × 2.07" (9.28cm × 5.26cm) = 262.72 PPI
i think a PPI of 262 is really good and everything more is a bit unnecessary. i have an iphone 4 at home and honestly i can't appreciate the 320 PPI if i don't put my face at 3 inches from the screen. at normal viewings, about 5 or 6 inches from the screen, 262 PPI are more than enough in order to have a crystal clear picture. plus if it's really OLED it will be amazing.
yencid said:Seriously that series of commercials where so freaking awful.
H_Prestige said:That's basically what the resolution will be according to the last rumor. Screen is allegedly bigger than 4.5".
AMOLED = active matrix OLED
The other kind is PMOLED (passive matrix) but I don't think anyone produces it due to cost issues.
OLED is just the name of the base technology, just like LCD comes in many different flavors.
EDIT: Just saw your edit. That is what I meant.webcivilian said:How can you have the two different controllers on the same interconnect path? Cache are different than RAM and RAM is different then storage which actually sits on the I/O bus.
There is no way you can have one processor with multiple memory controllers for system RAM of-course.
jeremy1456 said:And why is the 3DS' price an abomination, but it's acceptable for Sony to release a handheld for $500?
It's sad, but before the 3DS' price was announced I'm pretty sure these people were ready to hate on it no matter what it was.
TheChillyAcademic said:SO.
I am still confused as to what exactly a OLED screen is. I went to wikipedia and it might as well have been in Russian, I am not techie >.<
Anyone care to explain it to the clueless gay guy?
°°ToMmY°° said:so the PPI will be less than 262. just checked, at 4.5 inches it would have a density of 245 PPI. is there any other device with a similar spec (PPI)?
Bizzyb said:Well Duh, Haters Gonna hate. In truth 3DS could probably be sold for $199.99 and Nintendo would STILL make a small profit. But, it's 249.99 b/c of the "OMG it has 3DZZ!" and the MUCH improved graphics, and b/c its the next entry in the insanely successful/popular DS legacy.
Like Patcher said, Nintendo could have gotten away with selling it for $300 but they opted to appear more consumer friendly by making it only $249.99
Hopefully minus the false contouring.jd196 said:The Nexus S and Galaxy S devices are probably an indication of what the screen may look like.
flamesofchaos said:I won't be surprised if there will be a $450 or $500 model.
1-D_FTW said:Please don't make a new thread, but saw an article on a french site today where he was bitching they were leaving money on the table and it could of sold for 500 dollars.........
1-D_FTW said:Please don't make a new thread, but saw an article on a french site today where he was bitching they were leaving money on the table and it could of sold for 500 dollars.
zoku88 said:EDIT: Just saw your edit. That is what I meant.
The cost saving depends on how much the different types of RAMs cost. If this first type is many times expensive than the second type, and you reduce the size of the first type of RAM and make a bigger 2nd type, you could probably get some pretty good cost savings.
That's why I agreed that that one guy's setup was probably bad, since I don't think it makes sense to have both RAMs, in this case, to be the same size.
EDIT2: I think the controller cost is usually much less than the RAM cost.
before this news, people would have suggested putting OLED on a gaming device would have been absurd because of the cost.8sanders said:$500? That is absurd.
Um, no he didn't say that.1-D_FTW said:Please don't make a new thread, but saw an article on a french site today where he was bitching they were leaving money on the table and it could of sold for 500 dollars.
Chris1964 said:Um, no he didn't say that.
Dreams-Visions said:before this news, people would have suggested putting OLED on a gaming device would have been absurd because of the cost.
Last time I went to a Sony Style store, they had an AMOLED HDTV on display. it was 12" and was something like $2,000.
I agree that $500 is silly, but $399 wouldn't shock me.
''I'm impressed that they had the confidence to charge $249; I think that they're going to regret it. It's going to sell out and they're leaving money on the table. I'm impressed that they're this consumer friendly that really matters. So it's not shareholder friendly, but consumers are going to love the $249 price point. So $249 is a bargain, and I think this thing is going to be on eBay for $500 immediately''webcivilian said:What did he say then?
Chris1964 said:Um, no he didn't say that.
TheChillyAcademic said:SO.
I am still confused as to what exactly a OLED screen is. I went to wikipedia and it might as well have been in Russian, I am not techie >.<
Anyone care to explain it to the clueless gay guy?
How many really think that this will sell at only $50 more than the 3DS?!WARP10CK said:Not that much maybe 300$ but anything more and it better have a built in coffee dispenser.
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/nintendo-will-regret-249-pricing-on-3ds-says-pachter/1-D_FTW said:http://translate.google.com/transla...39511_la-3ds-pas-assez-cher-pour-pachter.html
Okay. Not sure what's speculation and what isn't. But he may/may not still be beating that 500 dollar non-sense.
Chris1964 said:
Chris1964 said:''I'm impressed that they had the confidence to charge $249; I think that they're going to regret it. It's going to sell out and they're leaving money on the table. I'm impressed that they're this consumer friendly that really matters. So it's not shareholder friendly, but consumers are going to love the $249 price point. So $249 is a bargain, and I think this thing is going to be on eBay for $500 immediately''
oh right. I forgot about that.H_Prestige said:OLED costs don't scale linearly.
Already plenty of mobile OLED's out there. All of Samsung's smartphones have a 4" AMOLED and this year the Galaxy 2 will have even bigger sizes.
webcivilian said:Yeah eBay price is not a scale of some product's MSRP. Its perceived value for a time being say the launch period when there are low amount of hardware available. I'm not even sure if its going to go for $500 on eBay as it launching on non-holiday month.
DieH@rd said:If im not mistaken, for us europens that is:
6AM GMT
7AM CET
Nice early morning present.
Relaxed Muscle said:The thing is that even for 300$ there's going to be enough demand to drain all 3DS in the world.There's not enough offer to fill the demand, that's why Nintendo is leaving money in the table, they could charge more and have sold outs all over the place.Of course it's also a very shortcoming strategy, since it will leave a even big open hole for competition, but seems Patcher is likely adressing those issues from an investor point he dosn't care Nintendo could loss leadership in the portable gaming.
duckroll said:I don't think either will be the USP. These are just features which complement/enhance the USP. The main USP of the PSP2 will be the ability to deliver HD console like experiences on a portable both in terms of graphics (much higher resolution 3D, powerful GPU, great looking screen) and in terms of controls/features (dual analogs, online play over wifi or 3G).
Takao said:Cluster Bomb Cluster Bomb Cluster Bomb
It's sad that the story of Marcus Rivers is probably the best campaign the PSP has recieved by Sony here.