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I knew there was no fucking way they'd be packing in 3 (or 5, which ever number it is) new costumes for only 200 points. Pure fried bullshit.

 

[duckroll]

I have to say the costume design is really cool, but there's no way I'll support paying for a costume that should already be in the game if it's available day 1. This is nonsense!

 

[Skilotonn]

I see that Game.co.uk already has the pre-order deal, but nowhere else in Europe has yet... I'm still waiting...

and 360 fans continue to let themselves be gorge by the publishers.

sheese. u think they'd just include this in the game

Yes, we all bought this pre-order costume pack that isn't available for purchase yet, for a game that's not even out yet...

You continue to show how bright you are I see...

 

[neight]

I'm sorry, but this post makes you sound like the dullest person on earth. Do you really care that much about $2.50? I'd hate to see your first dates.

"No, honey, you can't order some bread while we wait. I was going to save that $.50 for gas for the trip home! Actually, we'll be taking the bus. In fact, maybe we should even walk. I can save $3 on that, and in the future I may put that $3 down for a can of soda. Unless there's a sale on the other side of town. What's that? You want to see a movie?! Are you kidding me?! That'll be a full $10 on my part. If I wait 3 years, I can rent it at clearance prices! You will just have to wait."

A date is a completely different thing and something I would not cheap out on(it's all about impressions after all). DLC nickel and dimes you for the sort of things that were previously included in games as rewards for exploration or completing the game.

It is called nickel and diming for a reason. It doesn't end at just a nickel. It's a little here and a little there and before you know it you've spent a lot of money on it.

 

[Ptaaty]

stupid timing.....

otherwise I don't even care.

They should have one unlockable costume I guess and then they can go ahead and sell a couple for a measly half the price of a starbucks coffee.

I mean, the concept of day 1 DLC pisses me off to no end, but this is completely non-functional (not something like weapons), and is less than most loaves of bread.

 

[Augemitbutter]

Guyver

best post in the whole thread.

 

[Perdew]

I have to say the costume design is really cool, but there's no way I'll support paying for a costume that should already be in the game if it's available day 1. This is nonsense!

Yea, this game can't hold a candle to Bullet Witch

Spoiler

or the real king of costume DLC, Mega Man Powered Up! with its monthly Rolls

 

[a Master Ninja]

NINJA GAIDEN II news from IGN
About the DLC costumes:

With the recent announcement that alternate costumes would be put up for sale on the Xbox Live Marketplace, many were left wondering what that meant as far as content on the disc goes. Unfortunately, it's a look at what's to come. Itagaki told us that only a handful of extra costumes would be on the disc and that they would all simply be color variations of the first. These will be unlocked as you play through the game. Any costumes that look structurally different will have to be purchased and downloaded, though Itagaki was quick to stress that these are not on the disc and simply unlocked with a download code. Furthermore, the extra costumes were not initially going to be part of the game and have only been recently created. We got a look at these costumes during our play session and, despite the fact that they cost a pretty penny, we have to say they look mighty cool.

NO MISSON MODE IN NG2

Itagaki confirmed that there will be another Master Ninja Tournament, but it won't be exactly the same as it has been in the past. This one will be more focused on the community aspects. That's good news to us, but not quite enough to belay our disappointment that there won't be a Mission Mode in Ninja Gaiden 2. When we asked Itagaki about it, he told us he wasn't a fan of it in Ninja Gaiden Black and that it would take on a slightly different form if he was to do it again.

...but...

And though Itagaki isn't a fan of the mission mode, we did get a look at one a side challenge called a Test of Valor. The MS rep on hand told us that these arena battles are accessible after beating the game and can be found hidden on some levels. That's reason enough for us to keep playing. The one we tried continuously spawned enemies as we took out wave after wave until we succumbed to the onslaught.

 

[duckroll]

Yea, this game can't hold a candle to Bullet Witch

Spoiler

or the real king of costume DLC, Mega Man Powered Up! with its monthly Rolls

Yeah and all that was free too. Shame on Team Ninja, for a well selling game they sure don't feel like rewarding us fans.

 

[GoldandBlue]

Didn't Itagaki comment on DLC once and said it was stupid?

 

[a Master Ninja]

Didn't Itagaki comment on DLC once and said it was stupid?

It was in response to buying keys for content locked away on the disc and otherwise inaccessible.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Shame on Team Ninja, for a well selling game they sure don't feel like rewarding us fans.

I would suggest that this was not entirely the work of Team Ninja.

 

[duckroll]

I would suggest that this was not entirely the work of Team Ninja.

Probably, but Itagaki has the balls to kick ass in front of the camera but not to kick ass in discussions with MS? He should should he mad ninja skills to get us the best deal!

 

[Raptor2155]

Sad to hear about the mission modes being left out, it's what kept me coming back to NGB.

Hopefully the arena battles are similar enough.

 

[a Master Ninja]

I get the sense that Itagaki may soon cut off his ties with Team Ninja and Tecmo. His comments about wanting to "work with a western developer" combined with him saying NGII is his last NG, well, it's odd. Then again, he did mention DOA5.

 

[GoldandBlue]

I get the sense that Itagaki may soon cut off his ties with Team Ninja and Tecmo. His comments about wanting to "work with a western developer" combined with him saying NGII is his last NG, well, it's odd. Then again, he did mention DOA5.

Isn't there also the Dead or Alive: Code Chronos game he's been talking about since way back when.

 

[duckroll]

I get the sense that Itagaki may soon cut off his ties with Team Ninja and Tecmo. His comments about wanting to "work with a western developer" combined with him saying NGII is his last NG, well, it's odd. Then again, he did mention DOA5.

What western developer makes the kind of games Itagaki produces though? Unless he joins Rare and makes KI3. :lol

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Unless he joins Rare and makes KI3.

Now that would be an ULTRA COMBO!

 

[Assaulted Nuts]

Just wanted to reply to say I was at the event, and while the 3 costumes per pack thing is still a rip, the costumes are different models, not just retextured copies.

 

[_Angelus_]

Everybody just shut up,run out and buy another $60.00 PS3 rumble controller instead.
Better yet-let's import them for even more money. Sound good?

How can some of you post so much disgust in this topic when your part of the very problem that this industry milks gamers with?

Very selective views in this forum to be sure.
:lol

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

You can't spell Team Ninja without EA!

Charge for Everything.

 

[Skilletor]

Everybody just shut up,run out and buy another $60.00 PS3 rumble controller instead.
Better yet-let's import them for even more money. Sound good?

How can some of you post so much disgust in this topic when your part of the very problem that this industry milks gamers with?

Very selective views in this forum to be sure.
:lol

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

 

[godhandiscen]

What western developer makes the kind of games Itagaki produces though? Unless he joins Rare and makes KI3. :lol

I would be down for that. Actually I want it to happen.

 

[duckroll]

I would be down for that. Actually I want it to happen.

Considering the Spartan cameo in DoA4, Itagaki doesn't even have to leave Team Ninja to do that. All they would need is a collaboration with Rare.

 

[Fun Factor]

You can't spell Team Ninja without EA!

Charge for Everything.

Ninja Gaiden on the Xbox DLC was all free & arguably one of the most content filled updates ever made for a game.

 

[Dead Man Typing]

Yeah, the Hurricane packs added dozens of hours of gameplay and beyond. So much that they were practically forced to release Ninja Gaiden Black, otherwise that content would be wasted on the very small number of Xbox Live subscribers.

I guess with Microsoft publishing this time, we should've expected this, and I can see their justification now:

To access the Hurricane Packs on the original Xbox you needed to have an Xbox Live subscription, so they technically weren't free, they were a bonus for paying customers. These new costumes and other future DLC will be available to Silver Xbox Live users, so they need to recoup the costs some other way.


Does that sound PR-enough? I'm not too happy with the last line, mentioning costs isn't right, something like providing developers with funding or the like...

 

[Liabe Brave]

Everybody just shut up,run out and buy another $60.00 PS3 rumble controller instead.
Better yet-let's import them for even more money. Sound good?

There's a difference between "not available due to legal action" and "could be available, but we decided to hold it back and charge for it". Previous games in this series--both the original and Sigma--included extra costumes for free on the disc. The DLC was reserved for more missions, more enemies, and combat and camera tweaks. This change is what's causing most of the complaints, I think (along with the fact that the DLC has been announced before the game even comes out).

In other areas, I'm sorry to hear about Mission Mode being gone. There were arena fights in the previous games too, so unless they've been altered a lot they're not a replacement for it. Mission mode provided very specific challenges that weren't possible in the main game (e.g. limited weapons or items, strange groups of enemies) and extended the play much more than simply waves of a couple types of bad guys, which is merely longer versions of the same challenge normal play gives. Perhaps Itagaki will have mixed it up, though.

 

["God's Beard!"]

I get the sense that Itagaki may soon cut off his ties with Team Ninja and Tecmo. His comments about wanting to "work with a western developer" combined with him saying NGII is his last NG, well, it's odd. Then again, he did mention DOA5.

His recent comments are a lot more calm than we're used to, it's like he's reflecting on everything he's done up until now. I agree with you, he's definately going to change something soon.

 

[Mutagenic]

I will never, ever buy into this type of bullshit. Ever.

 

["God's Beard!"]

NINJA GAIDEN II news from IGN
About the DLC costumes:


NO MISSON MODE IN NG2

...but...

Mission mode was my favorite part :-(

also, they should have asked when the demo's coming out, I'm frothing here.

 

[Dead Man Typing]

Mission mode will return and we'll probably have to pay for it.

 

[Absinthe (Permed)]

I want DL costumes for DOA4. Now.

 

[Assaulted Nuts]

Mission mode was my favorite part :-(

also, they should have asked when the demo's coming out, I'm frothing here.

Rumors from gamers day say the 20th

 

[ZeoVGM]

Mission mode was my favorite part :-(

also, they should have asked when the demo's coming out, I'm frothing here.

It'll be in Ninja Gaiden 2 Black.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Rumors from gamers day say the 20th

Oh god, that's too long I'm going to snap I've watched the launch trailer 73 times and I even watched both Ask a Ninja episodes twice, even though they're sub par for the series

 

[Assaulted Nuts]

Stoke that game boner. :lol

Stoke it hard.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Stoke that game boner. :lol

Stoke it hard.

A LONE WARRIOR MUST RESTORE HONOR TO HIS CLAN
(Ahh! Real Monsters scream)
HE SEEKS JUSTICE FOR THE FALLEN
AND TO HIS ENEMIES
HE BRINGS ONLY VENGEANCE
AND DEATH

NINJA GAIDEN 2
EXCLUSIVELY ON XBOX 360

VENGEANCE IS COMING
JUNE 2008

 

[Yoshichan]

A LONE WARRIOR MUST RESTORE HONOR TO HIS CLAN
(Ahh! Real Monsters scream)
HE SEEKS JUSTICE FOR THE FALLEN
AND TO HIS ENEMIES
HE BRINGS ONLY VENGEANCE
AND DEATH

NINJA GAIDEN 2
EXCLUSIVELY ON XBOX 360

VENGEANCE IS COMING
JUNE 2008

:lol

 

[Ken Masters]

http://www.game.co.uk/Xbox360/Action/HacknSlash/~r326921/Ninja-Gaiden-2/

disappointing total.

so $2.50 for one new costume (which would have been free on Xbox) and 2 other colors?



this is just a fantastic value

 

[sixteen-bit]

You can't spell Team Ninja without EA!

Charge for Everything.

It's the fault of the publisher, not the developer.

The Tecmo-published Ninja Gaiden on Xbox had awesome free DLC.
MS are the ones that forced charged DLC for Gears and Halo despite Epic and Bungie's protests.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Yeah I double checked to make sure that it wasn't just for 1 costume. I don't see a problem with the price, my only "problem" is releasing them so soon after the game hits, feels like they held some weapons/accessories back on purpose.

That's my problem with all DLC, it wouldn't be so bad if you felt like you were actually buying a complete game. Having DLC come after say 4-6 months makes the end consumer(Well me anyway) feel like it really is an expansion and not that they were cheated.

The way game development works these days, there is a certain date when they have to decide, thats it for all the content that will go into the disk so it can go into full fledged testing. So, when you look at a game such as NG2, the content of the game would have been finalized 3+ months ago. After that they don't add anything to it.

Edit: Not that I agree with such DLCs.

 

[Fuu]

I bought them, I'm part of the problem.

 

[MCD]

It's the fault of the publisher, not the developer.

The Tecmo-published Ninja Gaiden on Xbox had awesome free DLC.
MS are the ones that forced charged DLC for Gears and Halo despite Epic and Bungie's protests.

you sure?

IGN: What inspired you to offer this type of download for free for Ninja Gaiden fans?

Itagaki: We are creating the Hurricane Pack for ourselves rather than for our fans. Our goal is to become No. 1 in the Action Game category as well as the Fighting Game Genre. The Hurricane Pack is an experiment based on that goal.

If we were doing it purely for our fans, this package might have been charged.
So, players who are going to play Hurricane Pack should understand the contents have become free because your interests and ours have met by chance. You should not complain that other game's downloadable contents available are being charged.

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/531/531106p2.html

 

[acm2000]

What western developer makes the kind of games Itagaki produces though? Unless he joins Rare and makes KI3. :lol

well, rare do keep laying KI3 clues.... and Itagaki DID say this was his last NG game.... duckroll uncovers MS's big E3 announcement confirmed!

 

[a Master Ninja]

Chapter 9 Revealed

 

[MCD]

9?

good, that's means there are more than the 8 stages we saw at TGS.

 

[RBH]

A LONE WARRIOR MUST RESTORE HONOR TO HIS CLAN
(Ahh! Real Monsters scream)
HE SEEKS JUSTICE FOR THE FALLEN
AND TO HIS ENEMIES
HE BRINGS ONLY VENGEANCE
AND DEATH

NINJA GAIDEN 2
EXCLUSIVELY ON XBOX 360

VENGEANCE IS COMING
JUNE 2008

:lol :lol

The "(Ahh! Real Monsters scream)" part was spot on. :lol

 

[Kintaro]

OT but I would shit myself with glee if someone could make a Guyver Action/Adventure game as good as Ninja Gaiden. ;_;

 

[Mefisutoferesu]

OT but I would shit myself with glee if someone could make a Guyver Action/Adventure game as good as Ninja Gaiden. ;_;

Gigantic could work as a DT...