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Nintendo 3DS Announced: New 3D handheld (no glasses!), reveal @ E3, out by March 2011
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BlackNMild2k1
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-MB- said:
This design would have worked much better if it slid out the other way like a PSPgo and then swiveled so that the controls were on either side of the bottom part of the screen.
But then that would be very similar to the design that Shogmaster had originally came up with about 2-3 years ago(and I helped refine).
Graphics Horse
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Somnid said:
If the new screen responds better to sliding thumbs, fps style controls would work well while holding the DS normally. They kind of do already with the thumb strap (or the edge of an overgrown thumbnail), but a wider, borderless screen would improve this quite a bit.
Guardian Bob
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Surgeon Rocket said:
Thats not a leaked trailer. Isn't it a DSi game?
You guys are just torturing yourself in the end with those analog sticks. You think suddenly Zelda stops using the touch controls and go dual analog :b
I mean think about a handheld as powerful as the Wii... with touch controls and old style dual analog. Nintendo would kill the Wii as that thing launched.
I mean think about a handheld as powerful as the Wii... with touch controls and old style dual analog. Nintendo would kill the Wii as that thing launched.
Yes, I was talking about movies with the "encode" thing.Durante said:
I know that there is the nVidia driver that , using the Z buffering, can produce 3D ( stereoscopic ) output but the effect shouldn't be perfect and must be tweaked to get good result ( at least that's what I heard, never tried it ).
As of now 3D in gaming is treated as a bonus and nothing more because there isn't readily available a system that can provide the experience first hand as a de facto standard ( like the touch screen on the DS ).
With 3DS, Nintendo would bring its know how and the needed awareness to the general public in a similar way they did in the past with motion controls.
Still I believe 3D visual won't be the only defining feature of Nintendo next handheld.
Grampa Simpson
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I'm right-handed and I'd rather have an intelligently and thoroughly tested camera than an entire stick to control the camera. I also think that the FPS genre is silly on a handheld.KevinCow said:
neo2046 said:another fans mock-up
I think this design is perfect. Just switch around the analog stick placement with the buttons and the D Pad. I also like the idea of the speakers giving the analog sticks extra space. Anyways to all the dual analog haters, if there is an analog stick 2 is needed to support lefties. Not only that dual analogs are needed, just look at the PSP. People saying that it's confusing and complicating for casuals to have dual analogs are crazy. PS controllers have had dual analogs for years, I think people have gotten use to them. Also not everygame has to be dual analog games, I'm guessing the majority of games will still be touch screen games for casuals, it's just good to let the developers have a choice if they want to create a dual analog game.
I have also checked out this design
http://hamstern.air-nifty.com/mogumogu/2010/04/post-3c64.html
Seems like a pretty nifty idea. I know a lot of people don't like it, but I think it's ok, as long as the screen part is a lot slimmer and lighter. However I still prefer clamshell, just so I can have the screen protected.
Dedication Through Light
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KevinCow said:
Lol that one is particularly nice, though Im still a bit on the side of the necessity of two joystiqs. Though I like how it sinks into the speakers side.
ShockingAlberto
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Power button is poorly placed
Might need to become a DSL-style switch again
Might need to become a DSL-style switch again
turnbuckle
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Vinci said:Many of the mock-ups in this thread done by GAFfers have been far superior to that. HAL's earlier one was beautiful, IMO, and I'll be disappointed by whatever Nintendo finally releases with on account of it.
Fuck you, HAL.
EDIT: This one specifically...
I like this one a lot.
Chû Totoro
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I personally like the design of his link a lot. I really hope they'll come up with something similar.BlackNMild2k1 said:
I'd prefer a design where one configuration was just the two screens opened up beside each other with minimal/no margin between them. Just two screens on top of each other.
Then a second configuration where the controls on either side of the bottom screen slide out. Maybe with a pop-out analog stick that can be compressed down before sliding in.
So basically the controls can be hidden when not needed, for pure touch apps/games. Could allow it to look a lot sleeker and more minimalist in that config.
edit - yeah, like that Shogmaster design...except maybe not swivelly, but just more simply slide-outs on either side.
Then a second configuration where the controls on either side of the bottom screen slide out. Maybe with a pop-out analog stick that can be compressed down before sliding in.
So basically the controls can be hidden when not needed, for pure touch apps/games. Could allow it to look a lot sleeker and more minimalist in that config.
edit - yeah, like that Shogmaster design...except maybe not swivelly, but just more simply slide-outs on either side.
magicalsoundshower
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Would there be a lot of precision lost if Nintendo just made the analog sticks really tiny so they don't take up a lot of space, but still somewhat long? I'm not sure.
Also, it would be a cool idea to place two trackballs on the bottom of the 3DS, after all you'll still have a lot of fingers left to use those. This may be a bit tricky to manufacture, though.
Also, it would be a cool idea to place two trackballs on the bottom of the 3DS, after all you'll still have a lot of fingers left to use those. This may be a bit tricky to manufacture, though.
Vinci said:
The right stick is used for more than shooters. It's a vital part of most 3D games. Given the rumors of it being as powerful as a Gamecube and the focus on stereoscopic 3D, we'll probably be seeing far more full 3D games than the DS, and it's going to really suck if there's not a good camera control solution.
And yeah, it would be great if developers just made great auto cameras from the start, but I've played enough PSP and Wii games to know that they aren't going to do that just because the system lacks a right stick. Instead, they'll force camera controls onto the shoulder buttons or d-pad, which either removes two potential buttons and an axis of camera control or forces you to relinquish control of your character to move the camera.
KevinCow said:
Honestly, till we see the thing it's really impossible to conjecture what sort of games are going to be put on it. The fact that the whole 'console games on a handheld' movement didn't pan out spectacularly with the PSP tells me that publishers either have learned their lesson or will continue to wonder why they aren't selling as well as Nintendo games on the thing.
True - but if the developer can't come up with a good auto-camera, why am I going to support their choice of a lazy, half-ass option? Again: I don't see how arguing on behalf of developer inability or laziness is really endearing them to potential customers.
Shogmaster said:
Very nice. I can see Nintendo actually using version B with added analog sticks.
Here are the reasons why
1. Get a big widescreen
2. Still backwards compatible with DS game, with the vertical setup
3. Casuals will love touchscreen mode as there will be no buttons, think of iPhone
4. With the widescreen buttons setup, there is enough space to have dual analogs at the same time you can hide all the buttons and analogs so casuals don't get scared
I really like that sliding joint concept.
Actually it has nothing to do with the Z buffer, it just renders the scene from 2 slightly different viewpoints. It is true though that some tweaking is necessary, but that is mostly because 3D vision is used on devices ranging from 22" monitors to 100" projected screens.Celine said:
I don't think the form will be that different from the DS's. I think one of the innovations could be some versatility to the controls. Imagine a recessed "controller port" on each side of the lower screen in which you can plug in an analog stick, d-pad, set of face buttons or even like a trackball or "vitality sensor". Ship the system with just the analog stick and face buttons, and you retain the simplicity that makes the product appeal to the masses, while not alienating the hardcore or lefties and create a potentially lucrative line of accessories.
These concepts are too wacky, lack cohesion, and look too jumbly and complicated, like the GCN controller.
Remember, Nintendo likes to go Apple.
The 3DS will probably look more stripped down, sleeker and focused than the DSi or DS Lite.
If there are analog sticks, expect them to be very fitly-snugged and inoffensive to the design of the handheld. Not these big jumbly boobies sticking out of plastic.
They'll either stick with a much simpler and thinner clamshell design, maybe even some brushed aluminium or a curved "seashell" design....
Or they'll go with a one-giant-screen approach with a symmetrical and simplistic button layout.
This one gets the idea (though I insist it will have 2 analog sticks, or none)
Remember, Nintendo likes to go Apple.
The 3DS will probably look more stripped down, sleeker and focused than the DSi or DS Lite.
If there are analog sticks, expect them to be very fitly-snugged and inoffensive to the design of the handheld. Not these big jumbly boobies sticking out of plastic.
They'll either stick with a much simpler and thinner clamshell design, maybe even some brushed aluminium or a curved "seashell" design....
Or they'll go with a one-giant-screen approach with a symmetrical and simplistic button layout.
This one gets the idea (though I insist it will have 2 analog sticks, or none)
poppabk
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You could use the second screen as a trackpad (if it is the right type of screen, and doesn't require a stylus). My laptop trackpad is smaller than a DS screen and it is serviceable as a mouse replacement, although the DS form factor might make it less feasible.KevinCow said:
out0v0rder
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you know why fps on a handheld sucks? because theres no dual analog sticks.
put em in there
put em in there
Grampa Simpson
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Keep your FPS games off my handheld.out0v0rder said:
Grampa Simpson
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It was a shitty game with a shitty control scheme. May have been decent with a proper control scheme.Dogenzaka said:
Dedication Through Light
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Dogenzaka said:
Yeah it was, only when there was no online play and when people didnt implement cheats and other things to hamper the gameplay.
I just cant see playing an FPS on any handheld. If one is playing them when they are traveling then there be tons of sensitivity options since the road is bumpy or such. I cant see playing it while walking or doing any other motion. Perhaps FPS's should just stick to being on consoles. (though is playing an FPS on iPod Tocuh/iPhone any better without any joysticks at all?)
bmf said:
You are wrong and you should be ashamed.
I never had trouble playing MPH in the car. Can you use an iPhone in the car? Seriously, it doesn't take advanced motor skills.
Everyone needs to stop "dooming" genres to certain platforms.
If you don't like the game, don't fucking buy it.
Nuclear Muffin
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bmf said:
It was a disgrace to the Metroid name but it was a good Quake clone that had fantastic FPS controls.
The fact that we haven't seen any other good FPS games on the DS that can compete with MPH is an even bigger disgrace.
Grampa Simpson
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I would be happy to give it another try with a proper control scheme. Mouse/keyboard, Dual Analog (either Metroid Prime style or otherwise), or Wii style. I believe I still have that waste of $30 on my shelf, if I haven't goozexed it yet.Dogenzaka said:
Grampa Simpson
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And I absolutely hated it. Put it down after 2 hours and never picked it up again.Dogenzaka said:
BlackNMild2k1
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Dogenzaka said:
You gotta remember that those concepts are from almost 3 years ago and that is before there was a DSi(& iPhone?). I don't expect 3DS to look anything like that, I was just pointing out how that fake concept reminded me of the designs we played with years ago when we were speculating on how the DS could evolve.
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