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Nintendo Patents Projector That Displays Flat Images On Uneven Surfaces

Brofield

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I feel like I've seen this before from a different company.
You're not alone, I definitely recall seeing a proof of concept video. A projector was also scanning four illuminated corners, and could distort an image near instantly so that it would project flat, even through a mirror's reflection. Really cool tech
 
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a 720p portable that you can dock and instantly transforms to a 1080p projector you can put on anything... completely eliminating the need for TVs. dude.
this is why the TV button on the Wii U did nothing! Nintendo hates TVs!!
I know you're not completely serious here, but the TV button on Wii U did exactly what it was supposed to, you just had to set it up in the Wii U settings menu.
 

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Most people are spazzy enough that they can't even hold their 3DS steady to see the 3D effect (prior to N3DS), so I imagine a projector would be problematic if it was shining from the handheld itself. "Keep your hands still!"
The Eurogamer report did mention a kickstand.
 

gafneo

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a 720p portable that you can dock and instantly transforms to a 1080p projector you can put on anything... completely eliminating the need for TVs. dude.
this is why the TV button on the Wii U did nothing! Nintendo hates TVs!!
Why have one TV when you can have like 10 or more?
 

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I'm ignorant about this jazz but how can this be cheap???
The patent is related to software tech.

There are already miniature projectors called Pico projectors which I learned some time ago on Wikipedia.
Since it is an already existing product, it's possible the tech for it is cheap.

Now imagine getting to set up your own local tournament without having to put TVs all over the place... That is pretty awesome because it is very accessible and can bring in crowds to play with local multiplayer controllers on one system.

Other than that, I had an idea about the projection from past patents that were a consequence of this.
(As in, this patent is a consequence of all their previous patents putting in research into optics technology, including projection.)

ggx2ac said:
I just looked it up.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handheld_projector

Interesting that it had a section on hand gesture recognition because that's what I was hoping I would find.
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=217781204

ggx2ac said:
I wanted to give one idea about the projector hand gesture recognition from one of the previous patents.

Going by the IR patent for using an IR camera that would give hollow controllers.

If the NX is using those controllers going by what IGN was told, what if, when those detachable controllers are removed, you do hand gesture recognition on each side of the NX?

👋( ( ( [NX] ) ) )👍

That same IR camera that can recognise button presses in the detachable controllers could also recognise hand gestures.

You have an IR camera on each horizontal side of the NX, you are either holding the NX in one hand and doing gestures with the other, or have it on your lap or on a stand and doing gestures with both hands.

Edit: You technically don't need a projector for this, just a camera. Remember the DSi had that Face Training which used a camera to recognise facial expressions.

Edit 2: Now I'm thinking about that Eurogamer report where they mentioned a kickstand...

Hmm...
 

Fredrik

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Most people are spazzy enough that they can't even hold their 3DS steady to see the 3D effect (prior to N3DS), so I imagine a projector would be problematic if it was shining from the handheld itself. "Keep your hands still!"
Exactly, this tech can't be for the handheld unit, every time you hit a button the picture would shake.
But it would work if the controllers were disconnected from the screen and the screen was the projector.
 

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Most people are spazzy enough that they can't even hold their 3DS steady to see the 3D effect (prior to N3DS), so I imagine a projector would be problematic if it was shining from the handheld itself. "Keep your hands still!"
Technically this is overcomable in the same way OIS works but I don't think they would include a projector. To get anything of decent quality would be very costly with not a huge amount of gain.
 

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I mean I guess it's neat if you want to play games that look worse than a circa 1970 TV. It's effectively impossible to make a projection even approach good on a non-white non-reflective surfaces, especially not even flat. That's precisely why illumiroom fell flat on its face. Best they could do is maybe pull off table-top/diorama scale by shipping games with prop-up cardboard cut outs and such to project onto. Doesn't sound particularly compelling though with bonafide AR headsets presumably right around the corner.
 

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I can totally see a future revision or a successor to the NX incorporating a projector to replace HDMI out/dock.
 
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A portable/home console hybrid that you don't even need a tv to play as a console! I'll take it.
I remember an interview with Shiggy where someone asked him about HD or something and said something to the effect of "we want the room to be what you play in and not need a TV at all". This was around the GameCube era, if I remember correctly.
 

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I remember an interview with Shiggy where someone asked him about HD or something and said something to the effect of "we want the room to be what you play in and not need a TV at all". This was around the GameCube era, if I remember correctly.
Oh, I thought he had some similar comment that was referring to the Wii U Gamepad, it sounded like, "we want people to play games without being bounded to the TV screen."

Something like that, I have to see if I can find it.

(I thought it was the Gamepad because it gave you 360 degree motion with the Gamepad screen in those tech demos.)
 

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a 720p portable that you can dock and instantly transforms to a 1080p projector you can put on anything... completely eliminating the need for TVs. dude.
this is why the TV button on the Wii U did nothing! Nintendo hates TVs!!
I use the TV button all the time. Are you getting it confused with the TVii application that used to exist?
 

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Yoooooooo what if that's the reason there's detachable controllers! The NX Tablet is also a projector. Detach controllers, set the NX down somewhere and play!
 

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It would make complete sense to have a projector and detachable controllers on the go. It can project a bigger screen on the wall for two player multiplayer would be awesome!
 

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Holy shit, this would be huge for portable local multiplayer. You almost need a projector for 8-player smash.
 
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Oh, I thought he had some similar comment that was referring to the Wii U Gamepad, it sounded like, "we want people to play games without being bounded to the TV screen."

Something like that, I have to see if I can find it.

(I thought it was the Gamepad because it gave you 360 degree motion with the Gamepad screen in those tech demos.)
I could be remembering what was said incorrectly. My memory is terrible, after all lol
 

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It's a nice idea but who needs it? Does it change the way I play games? Does it change gameplay? It seems like a nice concept but nothing what 100 million people want to have in their hands. A lot of consumers would ask why their handheld needs a projector, when they have a TV at home.
The nornal consumer wouldn't see a benefit in it.
 

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A console where you can project a large screen gaming experience on to any surface sound awesome on paper. But as always, it all depends on execution. Even great ideas can be murdered by bad execution, see Wii U Gamepad.
 

gafneo

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This was some idea I had awhile back. Maybe they invented a way to overlap images over multiple objects at once. Seems legit.

 

ggx2ac

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A console where you can project a large screen gaming experience on to any surface sound awesome on paper. But as always, it all depends on execution. Even great ideas can be murdered by bad execution, see Wii U Gamepad.
Now I can see one way this can go bad.

People projecting porn or shock stuff in public spaces. (Using the internet browser.)
They'll get stopped by police but all you'll see is news blaming Nintendo for it.
 

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While I doubt this will end up in the NX, it's interesting that having a projector built in could make for large(-ish) screen gaming that isn't reliant on having a TV and can plan for low latency.

Nintendo had another patent using projectors and object detection

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1204802

And even this patent for an image sensor that I could imagine being used in conjunction with a projector as another way to possibly do something similiar

http://alwaysnintendo.com/more-nintendo-patents-surface-haptic-feedback-and-linear-image-sensors/

Nintendo always has some interesting patents, but who knows if we ever see anything come out of them.
 

gafneo

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While I doubt this will end up in the NX, it's interesting that having a projector built in could make for large(-ish) screen gaming that isn't reliant on having a TV and can plan for low latency.

Nintendo had another patent using projectors and object detection

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1204802

And even this patent for an image sensor that I could imagine being used in conjunction with a projector as another way to possibly do something similiar

http://alwaysnintendo.com/more-nintendo-patents-surface-haptic-feedback-and-linear-image-sensors/

Nintendo always has some interesting patents, but who knows if we ever see anything come out of them.
Cool, never seen some of these.
 

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a 720p portable that you can dock and instantly transforms to a 1080p projector you can put on anything... completely eliminating the need for TVs. dude.
this is why the TV button on the Wii U did nothing! Nintendo hates TVs!!
you must have got it twisted homie. that button gets used every day. every controller needs one
 

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Oh shit that is awesome D8, so this can pretty much project anywhere, right? Smash parties are going to be even greater now if we go TV-Less, no more "lag" excuses.
 

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I don't understand what the appeal of having this in NX would be (note: I know it's not necessarily for NX; this is in response to comments in here that link them). If the system has a built-in screen and most people have a TV, I don't get why this would be a compelling thing, from a user perspective or from a game design perspective. I could see Nintendo releasing a projector attachment separately for people who want it or putting it in the dock, but I can't see how it would make sense to build this into a game system and increase cost. Plus, given that it might already be a high-powered handheld with a limited battery life, what would the battery life be if this were part of the main hardware and in use?

On-topic: This is some pretty cool tech.
 

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I don't understand what the appeal of having this in NX would be (note: I know it's not necessarily for NX; this is in response to comments in here that link them). If the system has a built-in screen and most people have a TV, I don't get why this would be a compelling thing, from a user perspective or from a game design perspective. I could see Nintendo releasing a projector attachment separately for people who want it or putting it in the dock, but I can't see how it would make sense to build this into a game system and increase cost. Plus, given that it might already be a high-powered handheld with a limited battery life, what would the battery life be if this were part of the main hardware and in use?

On-topic: This is some pretty cool tech.
Most people don't have an 80" TV they can take with them wherever they go, and project on a wall at the DMV for some great multiplayer "couch" gaming...
 

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I don't understand what the appeal of having this in NX would be (note: I know it's not necessarily for NX; this is in response to comments in here that link them). If the system has a built-in screen and most people have a TV, I don't get why this would be a compelling thing, from a user perspective or from a game design perspective. I could see Nintendo releasing a projector attachment separately for people who want it or putting it in the dock, but I can't see how it would make sense to build this into a game system and increase cost. Plus, given that it might already be a high-powered handheld with a limited battery life, what would the battery life be if this were part of the main hardware and in use?

On-topic: This is some pretty cool tech.
See how most Nintendo games are made for multiplayer? Well, go back to school and remember recess. You got the new NX with super Smash Bros and you and your friend are itching to play, but you only got one NX and of course there are not TV's near.

You detach the two sides of the NX and turn into controllers and activate the projector and Smash NX is now on the wall, while you and your friend have their own controller.
 

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If this appears in any version of the NX I would expect it to be either a peripheral or part of a revision, not in the initial hardware.