http://www.windowscentral.com/displayport-14-will-embrace-usb-c-and-8k-video
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http://www.windowscentral.com/displayport-14-will-embrace-usb-c-and-8k-video
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DisplayPort is not HDMI
Yeah I was not paying attention lol
That's what Miitomo is for.
You're right. What about the portable market? They adress both markets as one now. All their games will be on a single machine, all in. Aside from iOS/Androïd releases, to build the brand(s) and make "easy" money. Not in a pejorative way but I assume Nintendo studios prefee working on more ambitious games.
Indeed, and it's how it's been done with PS3/PS4/vita already for years anyway. Japan knows this model. Isn't it the case with indie games to.. Not every game has to max out the console. Those times are over.
People who think every Nintendo game will have WiiU minimum production value now, or more, are crazy. Spoiler. Nintendo will continue to have big "console" games with super big budgets and smaller "portable" games. Except they'll have great graphics to, and great iq this time, but less modern.
Yes, and I wonder if 3DS third parties all have a game in development for next year. What do you think?
Micro-SD is the current consensus.
Thanks! Kind of already planning my preorder now, lol.
Vita? Might as well ask why it couldn't be a Wii U or Xbox One game.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
Is it possible that while docked one or both Joy-cons could be replaced with a modular camera(s)? I know we lack the info but if we could extrapolate the bandwidth needed for the Joycons, would that be ideal for a camera add-on?
Example of the the thought process here.
The Polycom VVX 500 is a VOIP Phone that has 3inch screen that has a usb port on the back that can attach a HD camera right on top of the phone:
One camera gets you regular Video chat but Two cameras could give 3-D movement. My point is the Switch could be a QOL device hidden inside a game console.
Example of the the thought process here.
The Polycom VVX 500 is a VOIP Phone that has 3inch screen that has a usb port on the back that can attach a HD camera right on top of the phone:
One camera gets you regular Video chat but Two cameras could give 3-D movement. My point is the Switch could be a QOL device hidden inside a game console.
Skittzo0413
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Is it possible that while docked one or both Joy-cons could be replaced with a modular camera(s)? I know we lack the info but if we could extrapolate the bandwidth needed for the Joycons, would that be ideal for a camera add-on?
Example of the the thought process here.
The Polycom VVX 500 is a VOIP Phone that has 3inch screen that has a usb port on the back that can attach a HD camera right on top of the phone:
One camera gets you regular Video chat but Two cameras could give 3-D movement. My point is the Switch could be a QOL device hidden inside a game console.
Yeah I've been wondering if there might be camera joycons too. Maybe not even at launch but if there's no other place to put a camera that's probably the only way to get any sort of AR type gameplay.
And Kimishima was pretty clear about having a bunch of accessories to sell too.
ChrisMahoney
Banned
We know it's either a Tegra X1 or X2 so we have a pretty good idea on how powerful it is.
Nope, it's neither. It's a custom Nintendo SoC. The only detail we believe is correct is that the GPU in the SoC is based on Nvidia's Pascal micro-architecture.
I'm unfamiliar with sales in Japan now, but I assume that the Vita is having trouble these days? Still, the point was why would it have to be the NS? Couldn't it be another system? Just because it's historically been on Nintendo platforms, doesn't mean it can't be released on others.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Sooo yall think preorders gonna open up the 12th?
catpurrcat
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Yeah. PS4 showed how to do a successful launch. If they want to build hype, they announce, we cheer, and pre orders go up immediately following the event.
If not the 12th, then I bet the morning of the 13th.
The big question mark in my mind is the timing of the North America event. If it's too late in the day on the 12th, I wonder if retailers will just say, "okay folks, it's go-time tomorrow!"
Yep. Get your card ready in hand.
brochiller
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Any chance of the dock supporting ethernet? The USB port is already going to have power going into the Switch and the video signal going out. How much can Type C handle?
For Level 5 Vita had trouble since day one.
IE Ares could definitely be on another system. It could Switch, it could be mobile, it could be PS4, or it could be any combination of the 3. But not Vita.
There'll be USB Type-A connectors on the dock. Maybe the console will work with USB Ethernet adapters.
The audience for Inazuma is, correct, on Nintendo consoles.
Inazuma is furthermore a franchise which exists outside Japan with an anime,merchandise and whatsnot. Vita does not exist outside Japan, with 0 momentum going forward.
Switch - PS4 - Xbox One - Vita, in order from likely to unlikely.
lwilliams3
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It's actually neither. The final chipset is a customized Tegra. It may be around the same powerlevel as the Tegra TX1 if we go by the dev kits, though.
Is it a reasonable assumption to assume that the system will be roughly 1.5-2x the Wii U in HH mode? (200-300 GFLOPS) with more than double the power docked coupled with a much stronger CPU?
Captain Europe
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This is a really nice art style, I wouldn't mind Pokemon Stars going for something like this.
Makes sense. They showed some screens, so I would imagine they've already decided what it's going to be on. Based on those screens, it could be the NS or PS4. Since they didn't announce the platform, I'm kinda leaning towards the NS as well. I guess we'll see soon enough.
ShadowFox08
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If its X2 Pascal Parker, it could be up to 1.5 TFLOPS for fp16(single precision floating point) which is pretty crazy to hear or 750 GFLOPS for fp32. More than likely it will be a combinatio of the two and float around 1 TFLOP, for our best case scenario when docked. However its already confirmed Switch will be using a custom chip, and we have no idea if its a downgraded version or something altogether.
My issue is though that if its really 1 TFLOP(or pretty close to it in either direction), 4GB of RAM doesn't make a lot of sense(coming from Emily Rogers who says its the amount in the retail versions back in October).
Anyway, I'm expecting at least 500 GFLOPS(3x more powerful than wii u). Not even expecting 1 TFLOP, as I don't want my hopes up. Jan 12 can't come soon enough.
I'm going to be ready to go as soon as I hear gamestop opens pre-orders. Going to place one on amazon as well as a backup.
No way will they allow the system to switch from wifi and break up whatever you are doing with a handoff.
ArcaneFreeze
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This question has probably been talked about already and I've seen some stuff discussed here but I still wonder. I understand that since the switch cartridge based load times and what not will be alot faster than disc based. Also I know the cartridges sizes can be small or bigger depending on games but do you guys think developers will go back to more compressing more files to fit it on the switch? PS4 and XBone have huge file sizes and from what I gather it's mostly due to developers going with more uncompressed files for things like textures and audio.
GameplayWhore
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That probably largely depends on the inherent cost of the cards/carts. If it's cheap enough to produce cards that match or exceed optical media capacities without sacrificing substantial profits, then they won't feel the need to spend resources on strategically compressing data.
In truth, a lot of data is probably pretty optimized these days, even on optical media. You're not going to get a huge ROI from trying to follow this particular route unless there's a giant cost differential in the physical media.
Soapbox Killer
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I doubt 3rd Party Devs would have to compress anything if I understand correctly. If the rumored 16GB cart size should be plenty for 75% of the games if looking a the Wii U is any indication. I'm sure if necessary 32GB or even 64GB Carts could be produced. Nintendo are wizards when it comes to using disc space, they should be more able to help the devs out there.
It was stated as a 2017 release in their first trailer (no in-game material). Of course delay is an option
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgRVxLhKo1s
No, it's really not.
Audio is fully uncompressed in most modern games, despite FLAC offering a much-reduced file size without a loss in audio quality and barely any difference on CPU utilization.
FMV sequences are encoded in h.264, which is a horrible codec for 720p and 1080p video and has accounted for 50% or more of a game's total data usage in many cases (Metal Gear Rising was reported to have 75% of its data being made up of FMVs). Meanwhile, Nvidia offers hardware acceleration for the VP9 video codec on all its most current chips, including the Tegra X1 and Pascal, and VP9 has a 40% lower file size on average compared to h.264. VP9's successor, AV1, would improve upon that, though it would not be available with native hardware acceleration. Thankfully, CPUs don't do too much else while an FMV plays, so that might not be the biggest concern.
Both of these codecs and their compression methods are exhaustively documented and take practically no effort to implement, with a savings in file size for a game being 30-50%.
So no, things aren't as optimized as you'd think. Not by a LONG shot. Blu-Ray made it so developers never had to give this a second thought, even though they should have when you consider these games were available for purchase via an internet connection with potential bandwidth restrictions and data caps.
Mario Kart really shouldn't be a problem. You can even play that with a Wii Remote.
ChrisMahoney
Banned
The dock doesn't plug in with USB
Cuningas de Häme
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There is a button(/s?) in the side of the Con, they are on the tablet side and thus normally not used. Gives you an extra button to use.
There was a picture about that in this very topic page or two ago.
If its true that the Switch's joycons have pointer controls, I could see it being converted to that. I've always thought Uprisings controls would be better on wiimote then on a touch screen.
Yes, however the switch uses USB-C between the portable and the dock and, as darkness said, the signal passing through USB-C only support up to hdmi 1.4b, as you can see here.
HDMI only supports HDR from 2.0a, so the switch won't have hdr support. However I'm hopeful for that sweet 4k netflix content.
I also don't know if the switch will be able to charge on the dock while playing, does anyone know more about it?
FlyingWasabi
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I'm fairly certain that USB C can transfer relatively large amounts power and data simultaneously, compared to the old standard. I remember reading that as one of the main benefits a while back. I'm certain it will charge while docked and playing. It would make no sense if you couldn't.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
I really want a new Mario Strikers for Switch.
Yes and hopefully in a Breath of the Wild-esque art style.
Dude, a Mario Strikers (actually any kind of sports game but Mario Strikers is the coolest) with a 2-players mode from the same console would be fucking amazing.
How come OG PS4 supports HDR with a HDMI 1.4 port though?
I mean, I won't get my hopes up but in theory...?
After the last two Mario Tennis game the series might as well be dead as far as I'm concerned.
http://gonintendo.com/stories/270096-the-binding-of-isaac-afterbirth-once-again-teased-for-switch-by
The Binding of Isaac teased again and again
The Binding of Isaac teased again and again
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