Pancakes R Us
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Wait, is the dock not included with the Switch?
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Nintendo Switch Joy-Con $80, Pro Controller $70
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No, the Dock is 100% included.
According to the website, the battery life for each joy-con is about 20 hours, charge time 3.5.
For the sake of your health, please try to sleep during that time at least once a day. Don't forget to slide them into the machine before bed though, memory ability does decrease with lack of sleep. =)
Starchasing
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Inflation
ArkhamFantasy
Member
They've lost their minds.
Stairouais
Member
They're gonna do an invert sony, right?
Cheap joycons with no rumble / Infra fonctions. Right? Right?
Cheap joycons with no rumble / Infra fonctions. Right? Right?
The most innovative controller in twenty years, HD haptics, dual trackpads, dual-stage triggers, gyroscope and accelerators, and the best battery life I've ever seen in a controller: $50 (And is frequently on sale for $30).
I agree though, a lot of controller prices have become absurd.
Exactly.
People keep forgetting that $300 today was $200 in the N64 era.
That's not Nintendo's fault.
Real_Madrid
Member
Well, if you pay for the batteries...
Yea agreed big difference is Apple does a much better job with marketing and at least uses more modern tech. I don't know what Nintendo is thinking they aren't the "Apple" of the gaming industry.
Absolutely insane prices.
The charging grip's name is "Joy-Con Charging Grip". The Switch box includes a "Joy-Con grip." It's not a charging grip.
Tbh I thought there an HDMI output on the console itself, but even then either Japan is super expensive or your numbers are off because looking up Amazon.fr I get all this for like 40 (not 70), and that's consumer price.
Polioliolio
Member
Great Mario's Ghost, that's too much.
I thought 'switch will probably be cheaper than the other systems, so I can just buy a set of controllers for four players' but wow. No.
And paid online, ooh Nintendo...
I thought 'switch will probably be cheaper than the other systems, so I can just buy a set of controllers for four players' but wow. No.
And paid online, ooh Nintendo...
family_guy
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That's what Nintendo wants
shinobi602
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Absolutely insane. Wow.
wild wild rice
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That HD rumble better give haptic handjobs for that price.
Audioboxer
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🤔🤔🤔🤔
No, not like this.
No, not like this.
SmokedMeat
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Sure.
The most innovative controller in twenty years, HD haptics, dual trackpads, dual-stage triggers, gyroscope and accelerators, and the best battery life I've ever seen in a controller: $50 (And is frequently on sale for $30).
I agree though, a lot of controller prices have become absurd.
Yep. It was $30 for like 2 or 3 weeks. Fucking $40 more than that for the Switch Pro. Absurd.
SmokedMeat
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The most innovative controller in twenty years, HD haptics, dual trackpads, dual-stage triggers, gyroscope and accelerators, and the best battery life I've ever seen in a controller: $50 (And is frequently on sale for $30).
I agree though, a lot of controller prices have become absurd.
I appreciate the Steam controller so much more now.
I don't know much about Nintendo Europe, but I hear they are very bad, and irrational, and slow, and don't care about their customers.
9000 yen is out of my price range for the dock, but since my apartment is super small, and I will be playing it on my morning commute, and don't even own a TV, I probably won't even use the supplied dock, as it is more convenient just to plug the charger straight into the machine and play portable mode at home.
It says on the peripherals page on the Nintendo Japan website, I couldn't find it on NOA's site. https://www.nintendo.co.jp/hardware/switch/specs/index.html#3
Translation: Approximately 20 hours *This is an estimate of time, it may be shorter depending on use conditions.
You beat me to it. But wow, Google Translate is baaaad at Japanese.
If Person A wants mutiple peripherals for their Switch, and Person B only cares about using the Switch as a handheld, it really does make...sense?...for Person A to buy a second $300 Switch pack and then sell the bare Switch handheld to Person B for some amount between $108 and $299. The Switch can charge itself through USB Type-C and doesn't seem to require anything else it comes with to be used as a handheld.
It's interesting that it can be used totally on its own like that but isn't being sold standalone, since that would allow for much more aggressive pricing. Clearly it's a move to improve initial margins at launch. I expect the standalone handheld will be offered at some point after the launch window, though, probably at something like $200.
I can't really see it being sold for less than that, but if it is priced around there it will highlight even more, viscerally to consumers at a glance, that the peripheral pricing isn't fair or sensible.
It's interesting that it can be used totally on its own like that but isn't being sold standalone, since that would allow for much more aggressive pricing. Clearly it's a move to improve initial margins at launch. I expect the standalone handheld will be offered at some point after the launch window, though, probably at something like $200.
I can't really see it being sold for less than that, but if it is priced around there it will highlight even more, viscerally to consumers at a glance, that the peripheral pricing isn't fair or sensible.
MoogleWizard
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I have no problem with the price of the console but these controller prices are ridiculous.
Conkerkid11
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How can they justify charging $90 for a charging cradle for the tablet?
GroundEffect
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...that's not how this works. They are including individual markups on each accessory based on perceived sales. They will run a lower margin on the console bundle as they are more guaranteed sales.
LukasTaves
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And that doesn't even include the grip?
LOL Nintendo.
LOL Nintendo.
They're doubling down on the mistakes of the Wii U hardware, it's baffling
Mick Swagger
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That's how a lot of journalists & most consumers would break it down. Regardless if that's the case or not.
Perceived value is a thing...
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Nah, I've decided I'm not preordering this for shit. Fool me once with the 3DS, you can't fool me twice.
The thing will have dropped £70 in price and made online free by December. People literally won't go for this.
The thing will have dropped £70 in price and made online free by December. People literally won't go for this.
Same (minus all games). Been putting $100 a month away since August for it.
That's not how what works? I understand why the peripherals are priced how they are: Nintendo wants a functional, competitive price point for the Switch at $300, but also wants the highest margins it can possibly get away with for separate peripherals. They're pushing the limits of what gamers will stomach, but they're apparently willing to give it a shot. Maybe signaled to some degree by the success of the $150 Xbox Elite controller, though I don't agree with that assessment if so.
The standalone prices for each peripheral just don't make any sense when surveying what's included in the $300 bundle. People on a budget who are interested in the peripherals will be looking at grabbing a second $300 bundle and then heading to eBay to resell anything extraneous.
I can't think of a major console release where that has ever been a serious consideration until now.
...because it's not just a charging cradle. It's what facilitates the tablet to TV function.
It's just a charging cradle with an HDMI out, certainly not 90 bucks worth of stuff:
The dock doesn't have much mystery in it.
....so it's not just a charging cradle. It's also what facilitates the tablet to TV function. lol
Conkerkid11
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So it's a glorified charging cable with an HDMI port just because they couldn't be bothered with slapping a port on the tablet?
Like, technically there should exist a version of this console without the dock, and instead an HDMI port on the tablet itself, that costs roughly $200.
That's not $90 of value, especially taking into consideration the way everything else adds up placing the tablet at a value of around $100...
That's made even more funny considering the Wii U tablet did nothing but stream content from the Wii U, and it cost $112, whereas the Switch's hardware is all tucked inside its tablet.