HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
You came to post because you hate WW HD, didn't you?
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Nintendo's two week digital download exclusivity for Wind Waker is an insulting bribe
- Thread starter Tiktaalik
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Healthy digital sales + consumers swayed by bribes such as the Zelda WW HD move = Nintendo can afford to carry on anally raping their customers with ridiculous prices and prehistoric account systems
Poor digital sales + onslaught of criticism regarding shitty eShop policies = Nintendo is forced to listen to the customer, understand why their proposition is failing and revise their eShop strategy
Poor digital sales + onslaught of criticism regarding shitty eShop policies = Nintendo is forced to listen to the customer, understand why their proposition is failing and revise their eShop strategy
charlequin
Banned
Unless you break/sell/otherwise lose your Wii U before getting another one, in one of the many contexts that Nintendo doesn't consider legitimate, or you're a customer who doesn't isn't part of the right online communities to learn what magic words will unlock this service from Nintendo customer service.
I would generally agree with that, although from a business perspective I think doing digital releases first is dopey.
Having a console game on disc (or a PC game in a DRM-free executable form) means a great deal in terms of de facto ownership, regardless of what it it means in terms of de jure ownership.
While I can understand the complaints about the "account problems"...don't know why the early release of Wind Waker is such an insulting bribe. Is like when some admitted liking some Xbox games, but... "damn you M$$$$".
If you choose not to support something, then said things like early releases shouldn't affect you. At least in this case there is a retail-alternative; just a few weeks later.
If you choose not to support something, then said things like early releases shouldn't affect you. At least in this case there is a retail-alternative; just a few weeks later.
friskykillface
Banned
I'm more insulted that new wii u owners get a zelda themed gamepad and the system for $300 with a better game then nintendoland, plus the digital deluxe program is better then regular deluxe versions
I will just take the L.
its smart that Nintendo released it 2 weeks early, if they do this for Smash Brothers :O it will break records
I will just take the L.
its smart that Nintendo released it 2 weeks early, if they do this for Smash Brothers :O it will break records
So you're arguing based on the fallacy that there is only one logical conclusion... yeah, I definitely disagree with a far-reaching assumption with no evidence to support it. Relax, Chicken Little, the sky ain't falling.
EricDiesel
Member
It's two weeks. If you're too impatient to wait 14 days, that's pretty sad.
BruiserBear
Banned
I'm perfectly fine waiting the two weeks for the physical release. Nintendo could offer the digital version for $40 and I'd still buy physical.
The "evidence" is the fact that it's 2013 and we still don't have a functional unified account system in Nintendo platforms (that should've been standard when 3DS/Wii U launched) and that, despite the fact that it is quite often seen/reported as one of the biggest issues with the Wii U/eShop, no one at Nintendo said anything so far about making any changes to it in any concrete manner. And then something like this happens, which, of course, further annoys a part of their consumer base. And yeah, all of this leads leads to my assumption -- that's a good word, for it is what it is.
I feel pretty justified about complaining, but, hey, different strokes for different folks. I'm not against the whole two weeks digital version being avaible first, but I won't say it doesn't annoy me as someone who'd like to grab digital stuff but feels gimped because of something Nintendo should look into addressing faster than they've been doing.
A physical copy is data on a tangible medium (the disc). A digital copy is also data on a tangible medium (the hard disk). Both mediums are physical, and the copies stored on these mediums are no longer stored online or elsewhere. Both mediums are owned by the consumer.
I wasn't defining ownership by lawful standards at all. I'm using it in the most literal way possible.
Calamari41
41 > 38
To think, here I've been playing one of the best games of the last decade and a half while you've been bitching and moaning on an Internet forum instead. I have seven full retail titles on my hard drive, and nobody has busted my door down and put a bullet in my dog's head.
Yet.
Yet.
Starfish Hero
Member
Yea, if you take my comment out of context and add other arbitrary rules, Nintendo doesn't recover shit.
Teletraan1
Banned
Yet here you are after experiencing such gaming bliss bitching about bitching on an internet forum making straw man arguments.
Calamari41
41 > 38
I'm clearly not here to bitch, I'm laughing at this whole outrage.
Askherserenity
Member
What? Nintendo is actually leading the competition in actually giving you more of an incentive to buy digital and you're crying about it? You want to play the game so bad, download it. You want to wait? Wait. What's the big fucking deal?
Buddy of mine got it last night since he really wanted to play and didn't care about the special edition physical version. I want the figure so I'm going to wait. No one should be getting upset over this. Jesus.
Buddy of mine got it last night since he really wanted to play and didn't care about the special edition physical version. I want the figure so I'm going to wait. No one should be getting upset over this. Jesus.
when your wii u breaks or gets stolen and you call nintendo for help, think of this thread.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Did you just find out yesterday OP?
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Can see this happening a lot more this gen.
I think Microsoft in particular will use it. Using incomplete games to get you to download the rest, releasing games early online. Voluntary DRM.
I think Microsoft in particular will use it. Using incomplete games to get you to download the rest, releasing games early online. Voluntary DRM.
Coffee Dog
Banned
Oh shit, is this thread discussing Nintendo's account system? I thought it was discussing the early release plan for WWHD?
That's some bold foresight you got there!
Calamari41
41 > 38
If it breaks I'll send it to Nintendo. If it gets stolen I'll send them the police report.
Think of me when your shelf of physical disks gets stolen. What will you do then?
Fucking seriously. Though you should know by now that every thread having anything to do with Nintendo is a thread about their account system.
Regarding the specific instance of the console being stolen (I appreciate it doesn't apply for situations of breaking down): Can't you claim digital titles on insurance? When my Wii was stolen I put a couple of points cards equivalent to the value of the products on the system in the insurance claim and they came through correctly.
read the rest of the op, the title is misguided. the reason he doesn't want to buy digital is because of the lack of an account system. its a valid point. whats not valid is interpreting 2 week exclusivity as an insult or bribe.
thankfully, I can sell discs when im done with them, so I don't amass a shelf full of them.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
What if they get stolen before you're done with them, each and every time, and they never bother to take your Wii U.
Or maybe reading the actual OP instead of just the thread title would tip both of you guys that the early release plan is only an issue to the OP (and most people who posted here annoyed by it) BECAUSE of Nintendo's lack of a real account system/decent digital owner ship policies.
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
Wind Waker was an amazing game in 2003. Still one of my favorite games and back then I never felt the urge to jump online to laugh at people...I was busy playing Wind Waker.
man youre right, never thought of that. ive been doing this all wrong.
equippedwithtowel
Member
That seems like it sucks for you. You're this invested in the medium but you don't have any games worth keeping around?
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Yeah, better take into the account that natural disasters will wreck your house and not having a job.
on steam I certainly do, but my favorite console games are single player, and I want the money more than I want to replay them.
Calamari41
41 > 38
Gotta take breaks every now and then. Back in the day I could play games for more than 24 hours straight, but I just don't have the stamina anymore.
Is this a real argument against anything? "If you like the game so much why aren't you playing it nonstop instead of doing literally anything else?" What point are you trying to prove?
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
Not a real argument, just a jab. Sorry.
equippedwithtowel
Member
I hope you never get unfairly banned for a TOS violation on steam.
That would really suck.
Calamari41
41 > 38
And as someone who refuses to participate in Nintendo's digital plans, and knowing as anybody would that the game is only releasing early on the eShop because the discs aren't at the stores yet, how does it affect the OP in any way? Even if Nintendo never knew the Internet existed, Wind Waker would be in stores in two weeks.
Let the rest of us play the game.
no one said you couldn't! you are free to go now!
Starfish Hero
Member
We get that. What we don't get is why.
*Raises hand*
Although I'm still contemplating that MH3 50% off deal with my credit! What should I do? D:
On Topic: This seems to be a veiled eShop whining thread...I'll grab my coat and go...
Calamari41
41 > 38
Are you serious? This whole thread is a discussion on how Nintendo is committing some horrible sin by releasing it on the eShop early. I am rejecting that claim.
If you want everybody who disagrees with you to leave the thread so that you can screech at each other in agreement, then by all means just say so.
Really? I didn't know that. Did they outright say it? Or are you just assuming this to be the case? Because to me this screams "let's try to push the eShop down everyone's throat while releasing one of our most popular games first there and have retail only come two weeks later". Actually addressing the issues that make the eShop so unpopular in most people's eyes can wait, though!
And hey, I'm letting you play the game. I've no issues whatsoever with Nintendo releasing stuff digitally first, as long as their digital stuff is up to par with the competition. It isn't, so I'll leave a complaint.
Can you find it in you to let the rest of us who aren't satisfied with Nintendo's policies to leave a complaint and start an argument about the subject in one of the most famous/active gaming forums' online? I sure hope so.
Because it annoys him as a consumer and as such he feels compelled to complain about it. Because having a functional account system has become standard for the industry for like, half a decade now. Because in 2013 Nintendo still doesn't provide their consumers with it. And yet, they're now making a move where you've got a good reason to push you towards digital, except they haven't fixed all the stuff that's wrong, so some people do not want to jump into what would be otherwise a fantastic thing. And so, they complain. Really, I'm pretty baffled that you wouldn't understand how this could be something to make some people unhappy.
no just you, because you think people are holding you back. also im not that serious.
the thread is really about the account system, because the thread would not exist if there was one.
You don't really think this is the reason do you? This level of naïveté isn't possible.
Calamari41
41 > 38
Maybe the OP should have a title that doesn't bring up Wind Waker being released early being a bad thing if he didn't want any discussion about whether Wind Waker should have been released early or not.
CalvinCrack
Banned
i don't hate WWHD and i'll probably end up owning it one day along with a WiiU. I just agree with OP that it's poor bait for a fledgling online service, and i'd go one further to say it's poor bait for a fledgling console
Calamari41
41 > 38
Honestly, we'll find out in the next NPD report if it was good bait or not.
see kids, thats why theres more to a thread than just its title.
you are free to talk in circles while I leave, bye.
