He is just elaborating on why it was probably stupid to say 'oh yeah the game will get major free updates till the end of time'. I mean all im gathering from his current statement is there are def gonna be a bunch of free updates for the foreseeable future, but if like 2 years from now they run into financial trouble it wouldnt make sense to not charge for a mjor expansion that they couldnt afford otherwise. Once again gamers just going batshit on every word said.
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No Man's Sky: Free updates coming, potential paid DLC in future depending on budget
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He is just elaborating on why it was probably stupid to say 'oh yeah the game will get major free updates till the end of time'. I mean all im gathering from his current statement is there are def gonna be a bunch of free updates for the foreseeable future, but if like 2 years from now they run into financial trouble it wouldnt make sense to not charge for a mjor expansion that they couldnt afford otherwise. Once again gamers just going batshit on every word said.
Is this shocking?
As he says, he was a bit naive in saying everything would be free. Even in games like Burnout Paradise were all DLC was free...they started releasing paid DLC.
The intention is one thing, but the reality is another. There comes a time were they'll need resources to not only pay for the extra work, but also justify it.
The intention is one thing, but the reality is another. There comes a time were they'll need resources to not only pay for the extra work, but also justify it.
Regginator
Member
There should be a No Man's Sky equivalent of this jif:
Well they got people to buy the game now
Conkerkid11
Member
Seems like his life story so far. Stop saying things if you don't mean them. You're the PR for your own game. Stop lying to your customers.
Last Friday: "Wow, we've sold a lot more copies of the game than we thought we would. Maybe we should just update the game for free here on out and maybe eventually the game will be slightly closer to what we originally advertised it as."
Today: "Wow, the game's still continuing to sell well. I mean, we could do free updates. But for each $20 DLC we push out, that's a lot of money. Imagine how much they would pay for a multiplayer DLC."
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Before Release: "It's not about the money. It's about making that game that fulfills the dreams you always had as a kid of exploring the unknown of an infinite universe."
After Release: "Look at all this money."
Source on that?
How far after release are the paid updates going to roll out though? That's the question. How much of it will be content we expected to have at launch based on other things Sean planned that changed?As long as there's no micro-transactions I really don't see the issue.
Geez guys, sometimes plans change.
Can't be since both versions use different seeds for the generation.
Well, OK, that's fine. Nothing wrong with that. But Hello Games really needs to be more precise with what they say they want their game to be.
I get that they're a small team with their resources spread paper thin, so marketing and messaging may not be getting the attention and care it should be, but something like this could've been avoided if they said from the get go "I don't know to be honest, the future is foggy but we'll see how it goes, paid DLC or otherwise".
I get that they're a small team with their resources spread paper thin, so marketing and messaging may not be getting the attention and care it should be, but something like this could've been avoided if they said from the get go "I don't know to be honest, the future is foggy but we'll see how it goes, paid DLC or otherwise".
Wowfunhappy
Member
As long as there's no micro-transactions I really don't see the issue.
Geez guys, sometimes plans change.
Geez guys, sometimes plans change.
There should be a No Man's Sky equivalent of this jif:
Is that a Wii U controller Reggie has? It certainly didn't print money.
Geez guys, sometimes plans change.
In a week.
TheSpoiler
Member
But once again, it's fair for the consumer to be alittle upset when one thing was promised before release:
http://www.designntrend.com/article...eals-alien-dialogue-system-secret-puzzles.htm
And then "plans change!". It's up to the consumer to see if they are upset about this or not. For me, I guess it'll depend on the content, but I planned on keeping this game on the results of the updated free content because I don't know if I feel like giving them more money.
This, again, has nothing to do with people being hardcore. It's just people who bought a product and are receiving something different while reacting. I don't see anyone going "batshit crazy" or jumping down his throat. Just memes and a few slights.
Edit: The tl;dr of this is people have a right to feel whatever way they wanna feel about this - either you don't care and will/won't buy the DLC, or you don't like the practice overall. So long as people don't too far, it's fine to discuss it.
CrunchyFrog
Member
This. Regardless of Murray's character, he's pretty majorly bungled the marketing for this game. Let it be a lesson to other enterprising developers out there (hell just a good LIFE lesson in general), don't let your mouth write checks your ass can't cash.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
"Free DLC!!"
Game sells gangbusters. Thinks of how much money paid DLC can create with that install Base.
"DLC might not be free!!"
Fuck outta here with that bullshit. First rhe multiplayer horsecockery and now this.
Game sells gangbusters. Thinks of how much money paid DLC can create with that install Base.
"DLC might not be free!!"
Fuck outta here with that bullshit. First rhe multiplayer horsecockery and now this.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Peter molonyeux 2.0
Tempering expectations can also be "Hey, we want to have free DLC updates but I guess there may be circumstances some time down the line where that's not possible." which is pretty much exactly what he said in the thing.
I mean it's way better then saying DLC updates will be free and then eventually their not without any word otherwise.
Stealthcobra
Member
I think a lot of you don't realize that he has bills to pay... people to answer to.. if i were him I'd stay off of social media... use a pr guy to speak for him. cause the way you guys think, is absurd... the whole he lies thing is pure bs. when in fact he said it would be rare you'd see another person... but a game with millions and millions of planets people expected to see people in 2 days. so yep i wouldn't say shit to any of you.. get a patch when your ps4 says and update is coming. dude is damn if he do.. damned if he doesn't.
Zomba13
Member
Eh, how well did it do for Unravel?
It put the game on the radar, for sure. But not enough dream features.
Crunch2600
Neo Member
I think they should follow the Witcher 3's lead with the way they've distributed free and paid updates. It just feels right.
I'm having a lot of fun with it, but I can see the beginnings of how the game might become repetitive. I'm not quite feeling the $59.99 price tag right now, but I'm excited for updates.
I will say that it is fertile ground for more amazing gameplay.
I'm having a lot of fun with it, but I can see the beginnings of how the game might become repetitive. I'm not quite feeling the $59.99 price tag right now, but I'm excited for updates.
I will say that it is fertile ground for more amazing gameplay.
In fairness, they sold so many physical copies on PS4 it's their #2 franchise, behind Uncharted. So I don't think they're exactly scraping the pennies together to keep doing updates.
Glass Shark
Banned
History has proven it's probably better for him to make vague statements instead of definitively promising things he can't deliver on.
Baloonatic
Member
They're making a sequel so, well enough.
If i bought the collectors edition of NMS it would be a repeat of me falling for Fable 3 collectors edition,
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
I have a simple solution here. Gameplay mechanics absolutely free update like promised base building and so on. And than stuff like some special ships or skins or whatever can be dlc. Otherwise meh loving the game but don't sit there and charge for updates when you said you weren't I'll agree with gaf on this one
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Saying "I don't want to rule out the possibility of paid DLC in the future" is an extremely PR thing to say.
This guy really is Molyneux 2.0. The multiplayer thing being complete bullshit is bad enough, but really he said "all DLC will be free" A WEEK AGO.
Has any one developer had so many lies exposed in one week?
Has any one developer had so many lies exposed in one week?
How does Mojang do it then?
UnforgivenTwin
Member
"You see that DLC over there? You can buy it."
