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No Man's Sky Spoiler Thread
- Thread starter CraigerGamer
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yeah, if they're coy about anything it's the robustness of those systems
there's has to be better ways of making that system work without sacrificing the exploration/immersion element
ChosenPredator
Banned
thats what i was thinking, same chocolate different wrapping.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
You're making the mistake of thinking all there is to this game is what the dissenters keep repeating in every NMS thread. The things people don't want spoiling are things to do with the gameplay.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
So on the 26 minute video
He discovers one species(The Ruggaite) around 12 minutes in, but he only gets a 'Discover a creature' when he scans the other guy(The one following him).
Hrm >_>;
He discovers one species(The Ruggaite) around 12 minutes in, but he only gets a 'Discover a creature' when he scans the other guy(The one following him).
Hrm >_>;
More_Badass
Member
Maybe it wasn't a species/creature, but a form of plant
Pestilence11
Member
Posted this in the other thread but probably fits better here.
On the topic of the 26 minutes of gameplay video, I kind of wanted to see him leave his first planet but at the same time I'm kind of glad I didn't. If that makes sense. I don't think I'd be able to resist planet to planet gameplay if the guy changed his mind and posted some.
On the topic of the 26 minutes of gameplay video, I kind of wanted to see him leave his first planet but at the same time I'm kind of glad I didn't. If that makes sense. I don't think I'd be able to resist planet to planet gameplay if the guy changed his mind and posted some.
travisbickle
Member
So do people believe the 65 days guy more from what we've seen in the video?
The idea that
The idea that
you can ride creatures?
manny10032
Member
Anyone have a working link to the 26 minute video?
MrPressStart
Member
So is earth in the game?
I found a low rez version on Youtube. I just searched for the name of the game, title of the vid and the video length on google.
Yeah, it was actually a good video that gave you a taste of what the actual mechanisms were like without really being spoilery. In fact, based on what I saw I can imagine leaving the planet for the first time will feel pretty joyous. I kind of feel that's when the game really starts.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Hrm, looked like a mini dino.
Netherscourge
Banned
So - can you steal other ships on landing pads?
More_Badass
Member
Oh, thought you meant the hopping carrot thing
Yeah, it was mentioned in the hands-on previews a few months back. There are also facilities with computers that you break into and interact with, but if you don't know the language, the options will be gibberish. Hope you don't set off the alarm
Yes, Sean Murray did this during a gameplay demo one time. I think he hacked a console to do it or something like that.
we share the same boat. i wanted to see much much more than he showed/played but im super glad he didn't tho. but if he does i will watch with a huge grin and as soon as its finished il regret it.
i cant believe how long i have been waiting for this game normally i wont pre order, but i cant help myself i went for the digital version for an extra £10 just to be able to play it the second it drops.
im also considering declaring myself dead so i can play the game in peace ...... eternal peace.
Probably some things like it. There must be solar system analogues given the vastness of the game.
i have a feeling earth will be what is at the center of the universe. a fully modeled version of earth.
But im 90% sure Murray said earth as we know i isn't in the game.... if that makes sense.
Rumor or is this backed up somewhere?
Murray said it in 1 of the many interviews. i actually think he said 95% of them will be barren.
Netherscourge
Banned
Cool beans. I shall be Spacejacking some of the cooler ships then!
ichtyander
Member
That 26 minute video made me more excited, even though I kinda knew most of this stuff would be in there (and some cool stuff I did not expect), it managed to surprise me in a lot of ways just because it showed how you actually play certain things, minute to minute. Even the very basic fact of mostly running and seeing that stamina meter deplete (lots of depleting meters in this game btw), something we all knew was in there, finally made it real and gave a much better picture of just how fast and in what way the player will move most of the time.
I got lots of Minecraft, Far Cry and MGSV vibes in there (lots of menu tinkering and that computer voice reminds me so much of the iDroid).
One thing I think it's gonna piss me off is the lists of resources you have while crafting, there's these two rows of just 4 slots per page, just not very easy to sort and view just all the stuff that you have, but I guess I'll have to get used to that.
Heh, this is pretty much what I said almost exactly 2 years ago (I apologize for quoting myself in the most pretentious way possible
):
I've enjoyed the Far Cry games, but they've always been designed around keeping the player safe and overwhelmed with choices beforehand. As in, here's this open world, here are 50 things you can do, right now!, and if you want more of the same things, just climb a tower and they'll appear in a new position. I've always felt that those games needed just a ridiculously small tweak to make everything a lot more interesting, and that's just leave the map completely unpopulated and let the player reveal the points of interest by walking aimlessly and revealing them in his vicinity (NMS does this by pinging). NMS doesn't even have a world map as far as we know, so it makes orientation and exploration that much better. I understand that this just doesn't make a difference to some people and they're just not into that sort of stuff, and that's fine, but to me that's a massive difference between a Ubisoft-based smothering overchoice and a more interesting open world game. You can totally have the same amount of POIs if you want, just let the player use his/her own devices and exploration gameplay mechanics (even if it just means freakin' walking) instead of climbing a tower just to make everything even more boring. To me, that's makes a world of difference. You basically end up with the same map full of POIs, but it's you that populated that map, with your blood, sweat and tears (or just walking and observing). An even better thing might be to actually open a map and manually add a POI icon yourself (like old dungeon crawlers, or a more recent example - Legend of Grimrock), but I think that would've been a bit too much for what NMS is trying to do.
Anyway, looking at that post I made (it was before we knew a lot of other stuff, have never seen the menus etc.), one big thing missing there is that I never mention crafting and inventory management, but other than that, what we've seen so far seems pretty much on point. End of shameful boasting rant.
I got lots of Minecraft, Far Cry and MGSV vibes in there (lots of menu tinkering and that computer voice reminds me so much of the iDroid).
One thing I think it's gonna piss me off is the lists of resources you have while crafting, there's these two rows of just 4 slots per page, just not very easy to sort and view just all the stuff that you have, but I guess I'll have to get used to that.
Heh, this is pretty much what I said almost exactly 2 years ago (I apologize for quoting myself in the most pretentious way possible
):I've enjoyed the Far Cry games, but they've always been designed around keeping the player safe and overwhelmed with choices beforehand. As in, here's this open world, here are 50 things you can do, right now!, and if you want more of the same things, just climb a tower and they'll appear in a new position. I've always felt that those games needed just a ridiculously small tweak to make everything a lot more interesting, and that's just leave the map completely unpopulated and let the player reveal the points of interest by walking aimlessly and revealing them in his vicinity (NMS does this by pinging). NMS doesn't even have a world map as far as we know, so it makes orientation and exploration that much better. I understand that this just doesn't make a difference to some people and they're just not into that sort of stuff, and that's fine, but to me that's a massive difference between a Ubisoft-based smothering overchoice and a more interesting open world game. You can totally have the same amount of POIs if you want, just let the player use his/her own devices and exploration gameplay mechanics (even if it just means freakin' walking) instead of climbing a tower just to make everything even more boring. To me, that's makes a world of difference. You basically end up with the same map full of POIs, but it's you that populated that map, with your blood, sweat and tears (or just walking and observing). An even better thing might be to actually open a map and manually add a POI icon yourself (like old dungeon crawlers, or a more recent example - Legend of Grimrock), but I think that would've been a bit too much for what NMS is trying to do.
Anyway, looking at that post I made (it was before we knew a lot of other stuff, have never seen the menus etc.), one big thing missing there is that I never mention crafting and inventory management, but other than that, what we've seen so far seems pretty much on point. End of shameful boasting rant.
That's pretty wild.
Well it's been said that only 10% of the planets will have life, and only 10% of them will have complex life. I don't know the original source, but it's on Wikipedia so it must be true.
Netherscourge
Banned
I hope the PC version has a more optimized interface.
MassiveNights
Banned
The textures are real ugly huh? Like not even in a "they've gone for a look" kind of way.
OmegaDL50
Member
It's not a bug. This game uses Voxels for it's terrain generation rather than preset polygons, so the terrain will be similar to Minecraft in that regard which also uses Voxels as well. So the blocks / voxels will be stuck in their assigned space as per the procedural generation with how terrain forms upon being created.
The game uses Havoc physics, but I don't think the physics engine is tied to terrain objects and considering how the terrain is generated and isn't prebaked assets this makes sense.
I get a real Metroid Prime vibe from the actual gameplay video. Something about the loneliness and the ecosystem, and the suit and the scanning. Even the icons and things.
Well it's been said that only 10% of the planets will have life, and only 10% of them will have complex life. I don't know the original source, but it's on Wikipedia so it must be true.
I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I suppose time will tell. Obviously it doesn't make sense for every planet to have animals but we'll see how it plays out.
gotta be a troll post right. no sane person would actually say the game looks "ugly" considering what the guys at hello games have actually managed to do.
18 quintillion + planets to explore what did you expect it to look like?
MassiveNights
Banned
Settle down. I've posted dozens of comments on GAF about how much I'm looking forward to the game.
The bit where he is in the cave just looks bad IMO. It's a subjective thing yo.
Well it's a very deliberate design choice, so I guess it should be a good thing. There's more to the planets than animals. Other hazards, relics, crash sites and resources. Once you're deep into the game these may more valuable and of more interest to the player.
10% is still in the billions correct? (i can't math).
see in my head im like 10% of 18 quintillion is easily billions .. thats loads ... the i remember its 10% of a number thats so big if you started counting to it from the second the big bang went off to this point now you wouldn't even be close to half way to that number.
so now i think about it i wouldn't be very shocked if they made that 10% alittle bigger down the line.
OmegaDL50
Member
It's not even that. Most of the terrain seems to be totally destructible. So it's not like it's a preset polyon asset with texture applied to it anyways.
While is artistically nice looking. It's not going to ever be a technical pretty game along the lines of something like Uncharted 4.
It's because of this game is less demanding on the GPU side of things and is a more CPU heavy sort of game.
There are no prebaked assets or large texture files requiring load), so in terms of world generation and visuals and performance, one should look at other procedurally generated games as a reference point.
ahh the problem with writing on a forum the humor doesnt come across. i was just taking the piss (having a joke if you're not english).
tbf the version i watched was recorded with a bit of sweetcorn.
but either way as you correctly point out its subjective and tbh i think i would be just as happy if it looked like minecraft, as long as the gameplay is solid il be as happy as gary glitter teaching primary school kids.
tiebreaker
Member
Can we take some of the wildlifes to the ship?
ichtyander
Member
I've unfortunately not played much of the Metroid Prime games (something I'll have to rectify sometime in the future), but the scanning definitely gives a bit of that vibe. I would actually love if we could scan even more things in NMS, but also in various ways (as in having different gadgets for different things, seismic scanners, x-rays, all sorts of stuff), but that's not really what NMS is about, and that's fine.
One line of thinking I hope this video will put to rest though is that this is definitely not Proteus. I'm actually expecting calm planets that will totally give a more Proteus-like experiences (basically having the minimum of environment hazards and dangerous creatures, and much more non-aggressive flora, fauna and plenty of artefacts and other useful POIs), but that will most probably not be the most common experience.
I have to say I didn't think so. And the FOV was fine for me too, but then it was what I'm used to so YMMV.
As far as the textures go, I mean you can tell it's a procedurally generated game, they're not super real, but it's definitely not 'ugly' as far as I can see. The style of the game hangs together really well overall. The ground textures seemed on par with something like GTA V or Skyrim, or other previous gen games. Maybe a little better, looking at it again.
I think the 'badness' is generally down to the way different textures are bumping up against each other, there are definitely 'seams' there. But I've seen that in other open world games that aren't procedurally generating things, so I'm not finding it unreasonable
Well the other thing to consider is that you're not obligated to land on every planet. Since there is no way you can land on even any meaningful fraction of them, there's no harm in just flying past a planet and being like "eh looks boring, no thanks."
As a total compeltionist, this game makes me so excited because it will finally free me from the desire to fully explore everything. Once you know it isn't even remotely possible, you can just do whatever you feel like doing.
gunslikewhoa
Member
10% is 1.8 quintillion.
Succinct Verbosity
Member
So do we think there will be any substantial differences between the PC and ps4 versions if they both run at 60?
OmegaDL50
Member
Yeah, I still can't believe someone was trying to say that with all of the information that is available. Even stranger it was coming from another dev too.
haha jesus look at me ,.... look at me and laugh. so i may or may not have been a few billion billion billion off lol.
but yeah thanks for making me look like an idiot lol i joke i did that myself.
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