Well that's how the game is designed to be played. It's geared towards short stops on planets by design. I mean, they're just playing it the way it's intended to be.
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No Man's Sky Spoiler Thread
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Well that's how the game is designed to be played. It's geared towards short stops on planets by design. I mean, they're just playing it the way it's intended to be.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Even bigger! More life than our real universe.
Which is kind of the whole point behind being able to name planets and even share them so others can go as well. These unique worlds will be there once we all have the game and are generating them in our play through.
stump sock
Member
because the big area is just more of the small area? better off just going to another planet.
also this
I looked for it and could only see pop in when flying, didn't see any on foot.
Well there was in the very first stream. Some resources and an aggressive pineapple.
You're the one who answers with "lol" and unrelated gifs, so better find a mirror.
stump sock
Member
I don't know where to pinpoint it in the shared videos, but during the stream I definitely saw it several times. at one point, the guy was walking in a little valley and a tree just appeared in front of his face, blocking his movement. he just jetpacked out of the valley instead.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Ohhhh burrrrrn.gif
Whatever you say. I know your MO by now.
This is how I envisioned it, even months ago. Black Hole being kind of like a tear in space-time, in which it connects you to another galaxy faster. Like a Stargate so to speak.
So for example, if we were able to reach the center of our Milky Way Galaxy, and enter the Black Hole, we may come out the other side quickly to the Andromeda Galaxy (our next 'closest' neighboring Galaxy.
The price of procedural generation on this scale in a seamless experience. Something I can easily overlook given how I can fly in and out of an atmosphere of actual planet-sized worlds and through space with no loading and under my own control.
https://youtu.be/ZrzIqIpNuEk?t=17m2s
Based on other impressions and what I've seen, the design and technical issues will probably make this quite polarising. I don't see it being a great game.
I said this earlier but from what I can tell from the footage, planets have some POIs on them, that can be found via a planet wide scan and then you head there to get gear items, words of language, new recipes, etc...
The entire rest of the planet is "gather resource" and "look at environment". It doesn't actually have anything you progress with.
So as someone said, the idea is to go to a planet, scan it, go to the POIs, grab whatever helps you there and move on.
If you like the look of a planet, you can run around it and look at it or grab some resources if you need them, but running across an entire planet for hours is not going to give you progression of your gear.
The entire rest of the planet is "gather resource" and "look at environment". It doesn't actually have anything you progress with.
So as someone said, the idea is to go to a planet, scan it, go to the POIs, grab whatever helps you there and move on.
If you like the look of a planet, you can run around it and look at it or grab some resources if you need them, but running across an entire planet for hours is not going to give you progression of your gear.
runnin_blue
Banned
I've seen this aggressive pineapple mentioned so many times and yet not one screenshot. I NEED to see it. GAF, you fail me.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Pretty much.
Grass is big offender in on the foot gameplay.
I saw this
Has it been shown that your named worlds will actually be present in other peoples games?, surely if each galaxy is proc-gen, every single one is unique?
stump sock
Member
lol that's the one
Ok, well that seems like more of a one off than a set draw distance thing, could have been a glitch, I've seen plenty of them.
The pop in seemed very prevalent when flying above the surface (for plants and buildings) and this seemed to be an engine thing. The stuff on foot seemed to show buildings and trees way off in the distance, and if there is pop in I guess it's a bug or something with procedural generation spawning things in late or something.
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
I use the Pulse Elites because they have great sound quality and they have a 3.5mm port on the USB dongle to accept secondary sound sources. The Golds don't have that.
I have a Turtle Beach Earforce DSS (version 1) that is connected to my PS4 via optical audio. My Pulse Elites dongle is plugged into the USB port on the DSS for power and has a male-male 3.5mm cable going from the DSS to the dongle for audio. I lose out on all on-screen notifications but all of the controls on the headset work and it let's me output audio through HDMI and the same time (where using the dongle for any Sony headset on the PS4 or DS4 turns off HDMI audio completed so you can't use external capture cards with it).
The Pulse Elites have suspect build quality in the headband though. I had to use black zip ties to add structural reinforcement before any cracking would accrue (none has since I reinforced it) and I find the padding in the headband to be insufficient so I added some pipe insulation to it for extra padding. It looks like a monstrosity, but it works great and it sounds better than audio through the dongle when plugged into the PS4 or audio through the DS4.
If you are up for it I'd get a Sennheiser HD 518 or 558 with the DSS. Its wired, but they are professional headsets with great quality all around.
Hello Games said that there will be a share system where we can list our finds and then others can go there in their game and even deplete the resources or eliminate the wildlife if they want. This effect would also show up in your game should you go back.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Its procedural generation, not random generation. It will generate the same planet for every player. Its only that the changes you make tothat planet are saved locally so when you return the changes you made remain but not for another player.
Vincent Grayson
Member
Nothing is being generated just for you. The math has already dictated where every single thing in the game's "universe" is. If you find it first, you can name it. If someone else stumbles on that planet later, they'll see something like "Rockworld - discovered by danowat".
Grass also looks weird when you're looking down as it still faces the player.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Those are not quite the same scenarios.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Yikessssss
If you always start in the save galaxy, linearly progress to the next one, and never get technology to warp to any galaxy from a star map then something definitely happened during the development of the game to decrease the scope. There's no way Shawn showed a 3D star map in every demo if it's not something you can do or something that even had a reason to exist if you progress linearly from one galaxy to another. They've also been mentioning the center of the universe for years and now at launch its just the center of the starting galaxy?
Eduardboon
Member
Very nice.
Big events are saved for everyone.
Little things locally.
I'd consider eliminating all the resources on a planet as big.
You're right, but that wasn't my point, and that wasn't what the person I was responding to was talking about. The person I was responding to was saying, end-to-end, that procedural content creates dull content or a lack of variety. That's not true at all. Spelunky has more character and variety in its pinky than many hand-crafted games - even if yes, it can be brutal/unfun to play sometimes.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Awesome, thanks for the info!
runnin_blue
Banned
I reckon I've seen both of those statements before. My memory wants me to believe the first was from the developer but from ages ago, the second one I am not sure where I saw it.
Vincent Grayson
Member
Both are true (to some extent).
You can muck around on a planet carving holes in the ground, and if *you* return, it should still have those holes in the ground. If I stumble on that planet weeks later, it will not show me those holes in the ground.
But say that I decide to put my time and energy into wiping out every member of some ratlike species I take issue with or whatever. If I were to kill all of them, they'd be extinct and no longer spawn for anyone who lands there. That said, given the size of these planets, I wager making a given species extinct will be extraordinarily rare, and will only happen when someone with too much time decides to commit genocide.
chugen
Member
what is this fov. is this zoomed in or something
You don't have to linearly progress? I think the game gives you helpful waypoints, in that if the goal is to head to the centre, it'll highlight a path to get there quickly, but in kenjis video, you can see that you can ignore this and see all the systems you can reach highlight, or just aimlessly explore the stars around you, even the ones out of reach
Edit: also, regarding the video daymeeuhn made of upgrading, very useful, and creates more questions for me. If you look at the video, you can see stats for equipment on the right, where you see concentric ring bars of different colors and lengths informing you of -something- about the equipment. In that example, the laser stat looked weird, and didn't seem to be expressing what was in the tool already. I -THINK- what those stats are, are base stats, with information about what sorts of strengths and specialties the gun has. It makes sense, if I remember correctly it looked like an aggressive gun, and thy most colorful and involved stat was projectile, and he didn't have a lot of upgrades for projectile so it's not like they're there summarize his upgrades.
I think maybe the tool he has isn't suited for laser mining, and punishes him for investing in it. If I'm right, the upgrade system has a lot more depth to it than people seem to appreciate.
stump sock
Member
if only
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
runnin_blue
Banned
Ah, thank you. A little disappointing tbh lol.
Askherserenity
Member
The more gameplay I see the least interesting the game looks. What's with every alien NPC looking exactly the same?
To learn a word from another language you literally just go to a POI marked on your map and click X or whatever.
It all just looks so basic and dumbed down compared to a lot of the same types of games.
To learn a word from another language you literally just go to a POI marked on your map and click X or whatever.
It all just looks so basic and dumbed down compared to a lot of the same types of games.
Karspankey
Banned
In that video, yes.
Christ, and there must be millions upon millions in that one galaxy. If you're someone who won't stop searching planets until you find interesting ones, I'm sure there will be plenty of great shit to find.
That's totally not true, though? Even in the first video the guy wandered like 3 minutes away from his landing site because his scanner was flagging up points of interest. And IIRC he hasn't even found any derelict spacecraft, larger settlements, larger alien creatures, etc.
That's not what people are saying. Why would anyone say that? What we're saying is "he only visited 40???"
Obviously he might be a person who's not bothered about exploration - and worse, he's one of the few on the planet playing the game, so wants to discover whole-experience secrets ASAP - but if I were in his shoes I'd definitely have seen more than 40 - or at least, I would have skipped past planets that look less interesting until I'd find one that does.
Yeah, they definitely said that we could share worlds if we wanted. Who knows if that has changed?
Netherscourge
Banned
It'll be better on the PC version with most people using quad-core ~3.0 to 4.0 ghz CPUs.
The PS4's Jaguar is just too slow. I'm actually impressed it looks as good as it does on the PS4. Neo will probably be way better too, if you can wait that long.
That video for some reason is tad zoomed in, original source isn't like that. But either way FOV is terrible, below your console standard 55.
You can have hexacore CPU and quad-1080 setup and still get insane popin and LOD issues if game (engine) just can't do any better. Hopefully devs have put in effort and PC has minimal issues with those while having adjustable FoV, but them not showing PC port and being all silent about it isn't giving me confidence.
So each galaxy is pre-determined?, interesting.
Right, it's completely non linear when you're inside the galaxy, but it seems one you reach the center it takes you to the next one. During all the marketing the game has been discussed on a universal scale and now at launch it seems you'll always be boxed into one galaxy.