KyotoMecca said:Only just recovered from flight back from Tokyo - last thing I wanna think about is the flight to Amsterdam! We do have *some* work to do you know!!! ;-)
I was talking about people buying PS2 software, you know the way Sony makes money, software. If you are saving up money for your super-expensive, you'll have to work overtime to own, game system then you're not going to be buying as many PS2 games as you normally would. And how do you get people hyped up and buzzing about current gen PS2 games when your PS3 games are stealing all the headlines and attention?Yusaku said:You seem to think that the PS3 is competing with the PS2, and I would disagree. People buying PS2s this fall aren't put off by MGS4 because 1) they're not interested in paying $400 for a console and 2) aren't interested in waiting two years for a single game.
This fall the PS2 begins its transition to a budget minded game console, and it's going to be a huge cash-cow for Sony. It's essentially going to be the game in town. Thanks to the HDD and Nvidia it will be difficult for MS to match any PS2 price-drops with the original Xbox. Sony are masters at milking a console for it's entire lifecycle, MS is pretty much forced to just bury the Xbox and try and move everyone to the 360 ASAP.
Also I'm going to wager that Halo 3 will arrive much later than the movie, too late to try any sort of cross-promotional hype. Not that it needs it.
All signs point to awesomeAB 101 said:Keep your expectations LOW Blim.
You won't be bummed out then.
---- said:MGS4 was shown to the public to hurt Xbox 360 sales. That's it. The trailer even specifically talks about the console wars. You don't really think Sony would be showing stuff this early if the Xbox 360 was not coming out this year? Showing all this PS3 stuff doesn't help their PS2 business, Sony would be maximizing PS2 profitability right now if there was no competition from Microsoft. They'd be majorly showcasing PS2 games at TGS right now and making sure they got the most attention if there was nobody launching before PS3.
MS doesn't need to create hype and buzz for the system right now. Being featured on Time magazine and on MTV has created plenty of hype already. Being the only next-gen system out this fall and giving out 9,000 consoles with Pepsi for 2 months is going to create plenty of buzz. Xbox 360 doesn't need Halo right now. And Halo 3 is not coming out next year. Halo 3 is coming out after the movie hits in 2007 because that is the absolute best time to release the game. They're going to piggyback the massive marketing of a summer blockbuster movie. Xbox 360 has an incredibly strong launch lineup, they don't have to worry about selling consoles at launch. I think Halo 3 would be best used to deal with the hype of PS3's impending launch so that the Xbox 360 is not forgotten in all the PS3 hype next year. They need a game to continue the Xbox 360's launch momentum next year, to maintain hype for the system. You don't want lots of hype around the launch of your system and then for it to fizzle out as new systems are coming out.
I'm sure they intend for PDZ at X'05 to create all the FPS hype and buzz that they need. You have a rare opportunity to build big franchises at the launch of a console and MS is trying to do that with Perfect Dark. They don't need Halo to come along right now and overshadow Perfect Dark's chance to have the spotlight. I don't know what to expect of Perfect Dark, but I'm sure Microsoft wants it to be as successful of a franchise as Halo is. Putting Halo teasers out in front of PDZ doesn't help them to achieve that.
The point is this. Microsoft wants the media coming back from X'05 chattering and buzzing about Perfect Dark and Project Gotham, not Halo and Forza. Showing Halo 3 stuff makes the media come out of X'05 buzzing about Halo 3, not about Perfect Dark. If MS is going to tease anything at X'05 I think it will be future Rare franchise games. That's what I picked up out of the Peter Moore interview.
Chrono said:Why is everybody saying Halo 3 will be out in 2007? Didn't Gates say they're it'll be out to combat the PS3 or something like that or is fall/winter 2006 impossible?
Chrono said:Why is everybody saying Halo 3 will be out in 2007? Didn't Gates say they're it'll be out to combat the PS3 or something like that or is fall/winter 2006 impossible?
I really just want to see some near-final games, and not hear a bunch of excuses about early dev kits.
So you hopped in here to share that with us? Sweet.marc^o^ said:Who still really cares about x360?
Awesome, thanks; thanks for clearing that up. It's hard to argue against a point as well made as yours, as you've so intricately detailed why I'm mistaken, while your version of what happened is correct. Oh wait, you didn't do that? Hmm... I think the term 'jackass' might be appropriate in this context. What do you think?Shompola said:Nope... You are wrong once again. Thanks for wasting your own time by typing all that shit.
I dare you to find a quote in ANY of my posts relating to this. Back yet? Realized you're a fucknut for blatantly misquoting someone yet? Cool, thanks.Fight for Freeform said:He's the same guy who said we should blame MS for PC ports to the 360...
I don't know what's worse, this dialogue (no offense to you, seriously, I know you were just making an example) or the fact that it's still about 10x better than the drivel the writer's at Bungie have spewn out for the series. Less story, more action should be their focus. Halo's narrative is laughable.VictimOfGrief said:...with the dialogue something along the lines of: "But chief.... you'll kill yourself..... Chief: I know..."
This would certainly be nice (though I must say your entire post is overly optimistic, almost idealistic to a point), I'd love for Mizuguchi to come through in a genre he's yet attempted.VictimOfGrief said:-N3 will be playable as well, most likely showing off more polished gameplay dynamics, more graphical showcase of what the xbox 360 can "really" do. Most likely they'll show the ability (possibly) of calling in auxiliry(sp?) troops, firepower etc to add to the chaos. Great looking game and I'm anxiously waiting to see what happens with it.
Heian-kyo said:And no one has answered my question yet, why was N3 considered such a disappointment at TGS? Amirox? Blim? Chittagong? Anyone?
GoW is going to be Epic's flagship title for the Xbox 360 until Unreal Tournament 2007 comes out.
well, cross-referencing the Mark Rein interview, they've started work on the Unreal 4 engine as well.Izzy said:A bit OT, but I've been told Epic have got only 2 next gen console games in development - GOW for X360 and UT2007. And that's it for now. :-/
VictimOfGrief said:well, cross-referencing the Mark Rein interview, they've started work on the Unreal 4 engine as well.
Izzy said:A bit OT, but I've been told Epic have only got 2 next gen console games in development - GOW for X360 and UT2007 for PS3. And that's it for now. :-/
hadareud said:actually, iirc mark rein stated in an interview that no platforms were announced for UT2007 besides PC yet. Could be wrong though, will have a look ...
yeah, it was stated a while back about that.Doom_Bringer said:UT2007 is coming to next gen consoles.
Doom_Bringer said:UT2007 is coming to next gen consoles.
watch the dev interview
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/unrealtournament2007/media.html
ToyMachine228 said:I'm almost positive that a Halo 3 teaser trailer will be shown at X05. Possibly not even in-game but similiar to the Halo 2 trailer at X02.
stinkles said:Sal Paradise Jr said:Halo 3 isn't going to be shown, so really just drop it. Or go and start pre-emptive disappointed threads.
QFT
Heian-kyo said:Halo's narrative is laughable.
trmas said:The word deep has no association with Halo. Whether talking narrative, gameplay, or anything else.
trmas said:The word deep has no association with Halo. Whether talking narrative, gameplay, or anything else.
I don't think there's anything wrong with you (or anyone else) enjoying Halo's story, as everyone enjoys some brainless, explosive nonsense every now and then, but the only way I can possibly understand an individual citing Halo's narrative as 'quite deep' is if they've read (or seen) little to no other science fiction, ever.Prine said:err... no, its quite deep actually
Heian-kyo said:It pains me to see so many gamers call the plot in Halo 'deep' or 'complex', yet simultaneously lambast MGS2's narrative (which is so far above anything Halo could even dream of, and is still one of the most audacious, well conceived and masterfully layered storylines this industry has ever, or likely will ever, see).
Prine said:Oh man, it was great seeing what Halo was about, why its so important, why the covenent want to control it and what happened to the original creators.
I find the notion of humans actually being the devine species that built the Halo systems to protect earth facinating. Humans being the only race that the covenent are having trouble with, the ones they are trying to wipe out are infact the race they blindly worship.
That and the struggle of the covenent, their history as a species, the heirarchy of control, how they used religion to gain control and support of other species. Great stuff that really is a joy to experience. Maybe it could have been executed better, but on paper i think its a solid story, i like where its going.
Prine said:Oh man, it was great seeing what Halo was about, why its so important, why the covenent want to control it and what happened to the original creators.
I find the notion of humans actually being the devine species that built the Halo systems to protect earth facinating. Humans being the only race that the covenent are having trouble with, the ones they are trying to wipe out are infact the race they blindly worship.
That and the struggle of the covenent, their history as a species, the heirarchy of control, how they used religion to gain control and support of other species. Great stuff that really is a joy to experience. Maybe it could have been executed better, but on paper i think its a solid story, i like where its going.